OT: Let's talk about movies (and TV shows)... Part IX

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mitchmagic

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The way he dialogues and narrates a lot of his films, purposely directs you to his opinions rather than just objectively giving you the facts and allowing the viewer to form their own opinion. I feel that documentaries that accomplish this the best are usually stronger films.

It's kind of like writing a paper in school. It's always stronger when you provide both sides of the argument, show what you think and leave an ample oppotunity for the reader to form their own opinion on the matter.

I do not feel he doe sthis well, whether by design I'm not sure. But he's bad for it in my eyes. (Michael Moore is a lot like this as well)

No documentary is unbiased. Every documentary has an agenda and a point of view of a director. Every cut a director or editor makes in a documentary will point the viewer in a specific direction. Every camera placement changes something in the viewer's brain, even subconsciously. Viewers can read an encyclopedia if they want pure facts. Even Cinema Direct has choices from a director.

If documentaries weren't stylized by a director's personality and bias then we wouldn't have groundbreaking work by Errol Morris/Herzog/Maysles.

Certainly some directors hide the bias better than most, but I think theres a great integrity in Herzog telling his subject (and the audience) at the beginning of the Into the Abyss that he "doesn't agree with the death penalty."

Be transparent as a director. You're making a movie after all, whether it's doc or fiction.
 

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Pretty sure he gets Beric Dondarion'ed by Melisandre. Somebody said it before, but there was absolutely no reason for Melisandre to head to the wall.

S6E1 might just be a thing of tying loose ends and letting us know what actually happened. Like Theon and Sansa, Jaime and Bronn, Brienne and Pod. Arya is obviously going into some sort of training.

Varys was finally able to get out of the brothel. Good.
 

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It's crazy.

It's about this young alcoholic ambient musician who locks himself in his apartment on a dangerous seven day bender. Over those seven days he's visited by friends and family who all different views on his current mental health. At the same time, he tries to finish his upcoming album. Time is fragmented and we jump around from visit to visit. Time doesn't exist. It will feel like a bender.

Gonna be great and nonsensical.

Or it will blow. It will probably suck, actually.

Godspeed brother, I hope people like it.

Now all you guys annoy me with your GOT discussions, I'm still at the first season cause I watch it on DVD. Damn you all!
 

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I saw Jurassic World, it was really dumb but also really fun. I think this is what it might have felt like for adults watching Emmerich movies in the 1990s.

The Indominus Rex did not allow itself to be captured to infiltrate the enemy base ... it pretended to escape in order to bring the enemy into its base and break out. LoL. Reversing tropes are fun.

There is a scene directly copied out of How to Train your Dragon 2. When the Indominus-Rex strives for Alpha-ness ... it's like they plagiarized that entire story arc from the movie lol.

I dug Bryce Dallas Howard's character arc ... she changes so fundamentally in the span of a single day ... lol, that's not conceivable at all. At the beginning of the day she is a stereotypical uptight career woman, I think they might have gone for the career woman stereotype to give a sense of 1990s nostalgia. At the end of the movie, she is an independent warrior who shoots first and asks questions later ... great character arc for a single day.

Bt the movie had some good parts. It started off truly painful in the first thirty minutes with the phoney music playing, and the manipulative use means of infantilizing the audience by having us empathize with a six year old who is eager to discover everything. At that point, I decided to embrace that this was a B-movie, in the style of Independence Day, Battleship, and Alien vs Predator, and then I was able to enjoy the movie. We see some military porn and some monster fights, it's cool. At the end of the movie, the T-rex lets another dinosaur go out of respect because they fought together in battle ... lol.

The petting zoo was great.

Grade: B
 
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I saw Jurassic World, it was really dumb but also really fun. I think this is what it might have felt like for adults watching Emmerich movies in the 1990s.

The Indominus Rex did not allow itself to be captured to infiltrate the enemy base ... it pretended to escape in order to bring the enemy into its base and break out. LoL. Reversing tropes are fun.

There is a scene directly copied out of How to Train your Dragon 2. When the Indominus-Rex strives for Alpha-ness ... it's like they plagiarized that entire story arc from the movie lol.

I dug Bryce Dallas Howard's character arc ... she changes so fundamentally in the span of a single day ... lol, that's not conceivable at all. At the beginning of the day she is a stereotypical uptight career woman, I think they might have gone for the career woman stereotype to give a sense of 1990s nostalgia. At the end of the movie, she is an independent warrior who shoots first and asks questions later ... great character arc for a single day.

Bt the movie had some good parts. It started off truly painful in the first thirty minutes with the phoney music playing, and the manipulative use means of infantilizing the audience by having us empathize with a six year old who is eager to discover everything. At that point, I decided to embrace that this was a B-movie, in the style of Independence Day, Battleship, and Alien vs Predator, and then I was able to enjoy the movie. We see some military porn and some monster fights, it's cool. At the end of the movie, the T-rex lets another dinosaur go out of respect because they fought together in battle ... lol.

The petting zoo was great.

Grade: B

Yeah I dunno, StarLord starring as the Raptor Whisperer lost me
 

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Went to see JW anyway yesterday night.

I have to say that it's not an oscar worthy movie and I was not going there with that idea in mind.

First the actors are good, beside the little boy who wasn't so great. Pratt is doing a good job in the lead role (with what he has to deal with).

Graphics are top notch, dinosaurs are great.

There is a lot of great elements in the movie:
- Petting zoo
- Finaly they building real cages
- Park itself if great
- Mosasaurus and that scene
- Scene were the Pteranodons goes full beast mode on the people was great too
- T shirt joke was ok
- Glass ball attraction thing

Overall I think they did a great job with the back story, now let's talk about the main storyline.

First I didn't like the "We should'nt play with DNA'' moral. I feel like the movie could've been better just with a Terrorist attack kind of story where 3-4 t-rex destroy the park or something like that. The Indominus Rex even communicate with raptors, com on now.

Didn't like the rapotor training thing with the classic guy who wants to use them as weapon and it backfire. At some point they justified why the dinosaurs in the movie were not physicaly accurate (something along the line of ''we created dinosaurs for the crowd not for accuracy''. I don't get why the Indominus Rex is so smart and strong but failed to beat the t-rex/raptors.

Anyway, it was a great turn off your brain movie, also ok for kids. It was better than the 2-3rd movie.

With the $$$ they made, we can expect another sequel
 

DAChampion

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I don't understand why the I-rex is so smart either. I was waiting to find out in the movie that it had human dna.
 

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Godspeed brother, I hope people like it.

Now all you guys annoy me with your GOT discussions, I'm still at the first season cause I watch it on DVD. Damn you all!

Don't get too attached with any of the characters... (no tattoos or anything)
 

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I've been looking forward to Herzog's return to features (as opposed to his last few documentaries which were nice enough but not the same) but Queen of the Desert is getting terrible reviews. Too bad.
 

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Watched the GoT finale after the game last night. Lots of cliffhangers in this one. I gotta say I was impressed with Lena Headey's scene (Cersei's walk of shame). That must have been a very hard shoot for her. Hats off to a great job.
 

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I've been looking forward to Herzog's return to features (as opposed to his last few documentaries which were nice enough but not the same) but Queen of the Desert is getting terrible reviews. Too bad.

Same here, I like Herzog's movies. Last one that I personally enjoyed was 'The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans'
 

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Watched the GoT finale after the game last night. Lots of cliffhangers in this one. I gotta say I was impressed with Lena Headey's scene (Cersei's walk of shame). That must have been a very hard shoot for her. Hats off to a great job.

I agree but I'm pretty sure it was a body-double showing the goods -> They never showed her face in most of the scenes and when they did, it had a "Captain America - Before" look to it...
 

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