GDT: Let the Free Agency Madness begin
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No need to apologize. It’s a really interesting find. That’s another reason why Pesce for Nylander (likely) isn’t happening.
Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis has Big Kahunas
Kuz @ 50%
Nylander for Pesce
Caleb Jones for cheap
Skjei for futures
Bunting - Aho - Nylander
Svech - Kuz - Jarvis
Turbo - KK - Necas
Marty - Staal - Fast
Noesen
Slavin - EK
Orlov - Burns
Jones - Chatty
Looks good on paper.
Nylander for Pesce
Caleb Jones for cheap
Skjei for futures
Bunting - Aho - Nylander
Svech - Kuz - Jarvis
Turbo - KK - Necas
Marty - Staal - Fast
Noesen
Slavin - EK
Orlov - Burns
Jones - Chatty
Looks good on paper.
Sigurd
Slavin, our Lord and Saver (AKA Extra Goalie)
More of the same after July 1st.
Me checking HF26 after nothing new again:
I'm starting to go through hockey withdrawals. Come on Waddell we (I) need a jolt of energy this off season with good hockey news. Appease the people!
Me checking HF26 after nothing new again:
I'm starting to go through hockey withdrawals. Come on Waddell we (I) need a jolt of energy this off season with good hockey news. Appease the people!
spockBokk
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What are they trading for Karlsson?
Don’t mind Kuznetsov, stinks that he’s more of a setup guy than a scorer.
AhosDatsyukian
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Probably the Skjei futures and our own draft pick(s)
spockBokk
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Not really what anyone wants to hear, but sounds like nothing is coming up anytime soon according to DeCock:
-No contact with DeAngelo’s agent so far, seems like the Orlov signing put their eagerness to complete the trade on ice
-May look to add a depth D - makes sense with them not really adding any depth D on 2 way deals w/o an affiliate. If you could get a Caleb Jones type for leage minimum, might not hurt
-Still monitoring Karlsson, difficult trade to pull off
-No urgency, yet, to deal with Teravainen, Pesce, Skjei or the Aho extension
-No contact with DeAngelo’s agent so far, seems like the Orlov signing put their eagerness to complete the trade on ice
-May look to add a depth D - makes sense with them not really adding any depth D on 2 way deals w/o an affiliate. If you could get a Caleb Jones type for leage minimum, might not hurt
-Still monitoring Karlsson, difficult trade to pull off
-No urgency, yet, to deal with Teravainen, Pesce, Skjei or the Aho extension
Nikishin Go Boom
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Has DeCock actually given us real information on anything before?
News and disturber seems very disconnected from the team
News and disturber seems very disconnected from the team
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Back when he was the beat reporter, yes.
After Luke moved over to columnist and Chip took over as beat reporter, not so much.
DaveG
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not wrong on the last point, but as pointed out above when Luke was the beat guy he was reliable.
ElmCityGuy
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In about 3 weeks Don Waddell with have a press conference. He will announce that after signing Orlov and Bunting the Canes had no interest in going after another big time player.. they have just been screwing with everyone.
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ElmCityGuy
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If you ever have Luke DeCock and Joe Ovaries working on a story then that is quite a pair.
Brock Anton
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So why did Waddell basically confirm the TDA trade was still happening on July 1 if signing Orlov caused them to back off?
Something is f***y. Either they think they’ve got Karlsson in the bag and are just hunting for a way to clear cap or everything has fallen through and they have no idea what to do with Pesce/Skjei.
Something is f***y. Either they think they’ve got Karlsson in the bag and are just hunting for a way to clear cap or everything has fallen through and they have no idea what to do with Pesce/Skjei.
WreckingCrew
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Easy, Pesce keep (give yourselves all year to extend or own rental), Skjei trade
Slavin - Burns
Orlov - Pesce
cheap UFA/trade - Chatty
Lempo
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I guess Rizzo attending at Canes development camp may have caused some delay beyond the initially reported July 9th plus there was lots of other moving parts to both teams' off-season, and then on Jul 5th a new door (the 2nd buyout window) was opened for PHI when Cates filed for arbitration. Then Cates got signed on July 10th meaning that Tony could be bought out between July 13th to 15th.
Interesting coincidence is that the Canes camp ended also on July 13th. Almost like Philly had timed the Cates signing so that there would be a set deadline for finalizing the TDA trade. Conjecturing from the reports looks like Canes didn't follow through, for reason x.
Daeavorn
livin' that no caps life
I definitely think it's the latter. I think we are left holding the ball and are not sure what to do now.
Boom Boom Apathy
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Thing is, the Canes don't HAVE to do anything with Pesce or Skjei. If they really want to go for the cup, they can keep both as "own rentals".
Right now, we have the following:
Bunting-Aho-Jarvis
Svech-KK-Necas
TT-Staal-Fast
Martinook-Drury-Lemieux-Noesen
Slavin-Burns
Skjei/Orlov-Pesce
Orlov/Skjei-Chatfield
Coghlan
Andersen, Raanta
By burying Kochetkov, the team has $3.6M in cap space to make another move. If they choose to make a move, they can gain another ~$800K by burying/trading one of Coghlan, Noesen, Lemieux or Drury leaving then with $4.4M.
This team, on paper, is BETTER than last year's team that had the 2nd best record in the NHL and made it to the ECF last season.
Borsig
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AhosDatsyukian
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Can EK also, for the love of all that is good and holy, also just be ded?
Asking for a friend.
Borsig
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AhosDatsyukian
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Agree. I'm still holding out hope that the EK interest is just leverage in Pesce negotiations. Keep Pesce on a mid/long term deal and trade away Skjei or keep him as own rental and have a stacked D this year with him or Orlov on 3rd pair. EK is not a long term answer at RHD (and a risky short term option too) and with Burns being old and Morrow a question mark in the pipeline we really should be keeping Pesce long term. LHD is set with Slavin a career Cane most likely and Orlov then Nikishin in place.
However all that said, this current FO has done a pretty damn great job of managing RHD the last 5 years. Pesce, Faulk were in place already but outside of that they have hit on Dougie, TDA, Burns, Chatfield. Bear and Coghlan the only disappointments but neither came with any risk or significant cap implications. If EK doesn't work out and we don't extend Pesce I'm not horribly worried about what happens. Also helps having Slavin for the top pair RHD to play with as he'll make almost anyone look at least decent.
Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis has Big Kahunas
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