Leon Draisaitl 3rd 110+ point season in 4 years...

dwonger

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This guy is a beast. Him and McDavid are the only active players with 3x110+ point seasons when there there is only one other player (ovie) who has more than one.

In fact Drai and McDavid combined (6) have the same amount of of 110+ point seasons as the rest of the active NHL players combined (6)

Drai is also 3rd all time in playoffs PPG. How can anyone argue in good faith that he isn't the second best player in the NHL year after year? I think him being the best passer and a top 3 goal scorer in the league makes up for defensive lapses....
 

VainGretzky

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This guy is a beast. Him and McDavid are the only active players with 3x110+ point seasons when there there is only one other player (ovie) who has more than one.

In fact Drai and McDavid combined (6) have the same amount of of 110+ point seasons as the rest of the active NHL players combined (6)

Drai is also 3rd all time in playoffs PPG. How can anyone argue in good faith that he isn't the second best player in the NHL year after year?
LOL you stole my post from Oiler HF there have been 8 who have hit 110 McDavid/Draisaitl/Kucherov/Crosby/Huberdeau/Gaudreau/Malkin/Ovechkin
 

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This guy is a beast. Him and McDavid are the only active players with 3x110+ point seasons when there there is only one other player (ovie) who has more than one.

In fact Drai and McDavid combined (6) have the same amount of of 110+ point seasons as the rest of the active NHL players combined (6)

Drai is also 3rd all time in playoffs PPG. How can anyone argue in good faith that he isn't the second best player in the NHL year after year?
Not even close. He is easily the games 2nd best player. This is a Lemieux and Jagr situation again.
 

PeteEakins

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Didn’t the Athletic rate him a 3rd tier player? Isn’t it the common narrative around HF that he’s 42nd best centerman? Dare me. Dare me to name 41 better centermen. I can do it in my sleep!

I don’t get it. Why this thread? Draisaitl at 110 points adjusted for my insecurity/ I hate the person looking back at me on my webcam/ general lack of hockey knowledge/ still pissed the Oilers won lotteries/ Lemieux > Gretzky/ Eff it, I hate the Oilers and I wanna be HF-popular and it’s cool to hate on the Oilers and sadly, it fuels my real-life self esteem - is equivalent to 43 points on the Canucks or 37 points on the Sharks. His points are just being inflated by playing with Kailer Yamamoto and Warren Foegele. Playing with players of this calibre is a 69-70 point bump.

Why did his NHL peers vote him the best passer in the NHL? How?!?!?

HF told me the best passer is “objectively” someone like Anders Lee or someone hipster like Maccelli (look at me I watch other teams). If not those guys, someone provocative like Marner or Barkov are the “best passers” depending on how smart I wanna look in front strangers on the internet.

They’ll dismiss Draisaitl for reasons like:
1) “Have you seen the way so-and-so whip when they pass? NOW THAT it is “special”?
2) Leon Draisaitl is a first-assist specialist. Boring! If he was so good at passing, why doesn’t he have more second assists? :skeptic:
 
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Kerberos

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His playmaking ability is otherworldly. The breakaway pass to RNH, the breakaway pass to McDavid and his pass on McDavid's 60th are plays that very few players even conceive, let alone execute.

Anybody who claims he's not, at worst, a top 3 player in the league doesn't know what they're talking about. Going to likely hit 50 goals again this year and 120 points. Insane.
 

dwonger

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LOL you stole my post from Oiler HF there have been 8 who have hit 110 McDavid/Draisaitl/Kucherov/Crosby/Huberdeau/Gaudreau/Malkin/Ovechkin
Um no. I didn't see your post nor mentioned anything about 8 total players hitting 110 points. Try reading my post again.
 

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Simpletons think he is merely a by product of McDavid and need to see McDavid go down for a season to figure out what everyone else knows: Drai is the second most dangerous offensive threat in the league and has been for half a decade now.

He’s 10 games away from his 5th consecutive season where he ranks top 4 in both goals and points, something that hasn’t been done by any player since Gretzky.

Terrific talent and I wouldn’t trust anyone who can’t put two and two together to realize that he would be putting up huge numbers with or without the best player in the game.
 

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Didn’t the Athletic rate him a 3rd tier player? Isn’t it the common narrative around HF that he’s 42nd best centerman? Dare me. Dare me to name 41 better centermen. I can do it in my sleep!

I don’t get it. Why this thread? Draisaitl at 110 points adjusted for my insecurity/ I hate myself/ general lack of hockey knowledge/ still pissed the Oilers won lotteries/ Lemieux > Gretzky/ f*** it I hate the Oilers but I wanna be HF-popular because it fuels my real-life self esteem - is equivalent to 43 points on the Canucks or 37 points on the Sharks. His points are just being inflated by playing with Kailer Yamamoto and Warren Foegele. Playing with players of this calibre is a 69-70 point bump.

Why did his NHL peers vote him the best passer in the NHL? How?!?!?

HF told me the best passer is “objectively” someone like Anders Lee or someone hipster like Maccelli (look at me I watch other teams). If not those guys, someone provocative like Marner or Barkov are the “best passers” depending on how smart I wanna look in front strangers on the internet.

They’ll dismiss Draisaitl for reasons like:
1) “Have you seen the way so-and-so whip when they pass? NOW THAT it is “special”?
2) Leon Draisaitl is a first-assist specialist. Boring! If he was so good at passing, why doesn’t he have more second assists? :skeptic:
That's very interesting and all but wHaT aBoUt HiS pLuSeS aNd MiNuSeS sTaTeStIcLes???
 

KlefDown

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He's a good player obviously as it's not like everyone on the Oilers is getting 110+ points regularly.

However, I don't think he's a 110+ point player on any other team in the league.
Agreed, he’d be a bum if he was fed passes from Marner/Matthews/Nylander. Those three guys simply aren’t good enough or smart enough to play with an élite offensive talent like Drai
 

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He's a good player obviously as it's not like everyone on the Oilers is getting 110+ points regularly.

However, I don't think he's a 110+ point player on any other team in the league.
On Most teams he would be. 110 points is not something you just do from playing with the best player in the world. When a player is as good as him his production is always more of a reflection of his own play, not the team he’s on. It’s not like he’s an 80 point guy who has good chemistry and with McDavid who would score 60 points on most teams.
 

PeteEakins

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He's a good player obviously as it's not like everyone on the Oilers is getting 110+ points regularly.

However, I don't think he's a 110+ point player on any other team in the league.
Read my post. It’s satire and sadly, it’s also you.

You’re in denial. If Leon Draisaitl was doing this on Leafs, he’d receive statsflation and be given an era-adjusted 215 point equivalency a for his 110 points. However, the statsflation wouldn’t apply to Connor because he is nonsensically a product of himself. Yes, you read that right. Connor, by virtue of being Connor McDavid, is inflating his own stats by being himself. Statsflation and mental-Cirque du Soliel only applies to Leaf players and HF sweethearts like the Hurricanes.

If he was on the Leafs scoring 50G/ 50A 4 years straight he’d win the Hart trophy every year. Just admit it. This is not about Leon. You don’t watch the Oilers. You hate the Oilers. So you make a non-sensical claim like you did above. What’s worse is the HF-hive mind will fall to their knees and believe you. It’s disgusting.

You want to understand how good Leon is? I know you stopped following after the first round. He lead the playoffs in scoring without going to the Stanley Cup final. He scores in the regular season. He destroys in the playoffs. He can repeat this level of production in any situation and ON ANY TEAM.
 
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PeterCheater

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Considering his career high is only 110 with McDavid, it's highly unlikely he improves his stats when he leaves McDavid.

Are you arguing McDavid is holding him back? :laugh:
His career high is pace for 127 points in shortened-Hart level season (and another shortened season with pace for +120 pts), so he doesn't need to improve his stats in regular season without McDavid to be 110pts-level player.
 
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Divine

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3 seasons at 110, two of which he scored in only 70 games. he’s a safe bet for 100 playing for a team like Arizona

Highly disagree because of the amount of points he gets on the powerplay. You think he's getting 54 PP points (50% of his total points this season) on the PP in Arizona?

Arizona has 41 TOTAL powerplay goals this season. Draisaitl has 54 PP points this season. Draisaitl has more PP points than Arizona has goals on the PP.

In fact, Draisaitl has more PP points than all but 6 NHL teams have goals.
 

dwonger

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Considering his career high is only 110 with McDavid, it's highly unlikely he improves his stats when he leaves McDavid.

Are you arguing McDavid is holding him back? :laugh:
No I'm arguing that other then Mcdavid he plays with trash and plays regularly for the last 3 years on another line with much inferior players. If he played on teams like Toronto or Tampa with multiple good players they would offset the McDavid effect. Also, he most likely hots 125 this year not 110.

Don't be angry that Matthews is inferior. Without Marner Matthews is a 80 point player in fact he only got over 80 points once. Put him on a random team and he doesn't hit 80 points.
 
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