Prospect Info: Lenni Hämeenaho (#58 Pick - 2nd Round - 2023 Draft)
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You may be correct but for better or worse they saw him as a top 30 player in the draft based on the post draft comments by the team.
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I like Heidt, and was fixated on Nick Lardis (I had a vision!), but all that’s spilt milk now.
If they have a plan on how how to help him with his skating I’ll be fine with the choice.
If they didn’t care about the skating, and later express frustration with it, I’ll have some issues.
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The Devils have drafted well, and I refuse to get bent when a prospect I like isn’t taken. Lets crap on a kid, who looked like one of Finlands best players.
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what about him isnt a good skater?
does he have good edges?
i can live without speed for a third liner!
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Lenny is awkward skater sometimes. It makes his puckhandling worser.
But now we are standing on the battlefield between effort, two way iq and skating. Heidt isn't good skater, but he is average at least, Lenny is bad skater. Heidt is lazy two way player and he is losing his defensive zones, he is very good playmaker and he is very good player with the puck. Lenny is awesome 200 foot player, and he knows where he should be in the moment, he is very good without the puck, and he isn't bad with the puck.
Its very hard to say clearly who is better now and which ceiling is higher. Heidt has potential to be offensive second line center. But his lack of effort and positional vision could be a key problem that will stop him. Lenny has potential to be great top 6 winger, but his skating is very bad and the problem is in mechanics/technics.
I would easily put all my money on Lenny, because from everything I knew from previous draft, its the most important to be smart kid with high iq, know the game, feel the zone, be in the pace, work hard and understand the game, be useful as 200 foot player. We have different examples of Jarvis, Mercer, Lundell, who could lack of some offensive tools but they are better on NHL level than some guys who were drafted over them or right behind. We have example of Holtz and Quinn, where Holtz had better offensive tools, but for now Quinn is looking more useful as NHLer and his overall effort helps him to make offensive impact. But all of them are better skaters, even if they aren't good. Lenny have a problem with minimum allowable level.
I think Lenny has potential to make better overall impact, because he is smarter and always know where he should be and should go with or without the puck. But he needs to work hard on his skating.
Sawchyn is very intriguing player with better skating than both, with better effort than Heidt. He isn’t great playmaker, but he is good passer. I like his 200 foot game. With the puck he is trying to do too much, putting a lot on his shoulders. He is trying to save the puck and using stick handling but I don’t think that he is good enough and most of it will not work in NHL. His physicals needs to work - puck protection and physical aspect of puck battling. Anyway he isn’t the player you will say ”easy to play against”. I like his game without the puck more and he isn’t bad with the puck overall, he is good.
But I think he has highest floor between this three. Because of skating, speed, effort and offensive tools. His ceiling is questionable, may be he is a very good third line center, may be good complimentary winger. Anyway if Devils would draft him, I believe we would not regret, he is very good two way player, who moves a lot and read the game well, can find free space and even can drive.
Devils made a bet on higher ceiling and think they have enough driving. I’m absolutely okay to draft Lenny over Heidt, for now I would easily drafted Sawchyn over Lenny. But Lenny is very intriguing player, his iq is so great and if he can develop his skating to average level, than he has potential to be great two way forward. The question is how he will develop his skating and mechanics. Sometimes his lower body works against his upper body.
Heidt isn’t looking like a player with good two way potential, his lack of positional vision will limit him. May be he is very productive nhl center, who will not play your tough minutes, and you prefer to find some good forechecking wingers to support him.
Sawchyn has potential to be very painful player for opponents on both sides of the rink, he needs to work on his vision and timings to use his partners better, it’s not a thing you can develop easily. But with a good playmaker he can be pretty productive.
Lenny is our player. And he isn’t looking like a bust or wrong pick for later second round. He looks like a player with high potential, he is working hard. And he absolutely deserves to root for him.
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How can a player named Lenni not reach his potential? Legendary name.
Welp, one thing to point out if he's as bad a skater as some say he must have some technique misstep or technical issue in how he's attempting to skate. That's something that great skating coaching could change. Even if he never becomes Jack Hughes as a skater, he could certainly become average.
The narrative is in complete snowball mode.
But yeah, I think at least some of the issue can be smoothed over.
Right. I mean, skating can't be that hard. I always hear talk at work how other people are always "just skating by" and if you're casually skating in an office it can't be that hard to learn
I skated through High School. It's like the less you try, the better you are at it.
So “skating” is a metaphor for exerting little effort at a task and Hams is a high effort guy, so he doesn’t “skate” well. This is all starting to make sense.
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Looks like Ham may have created a turnover leading to the goal but the clip starts after the turnover so I’m not sure.
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Devils731
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Sounds like he’s having a heck of a tournament.
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Yup, now has 2 goals and 4 assists in 4 games (4th game is in the 1st period still). 2 assists today so far.
This is the last game of the WJSS, so Lenni is in a good position to finish the showcase as the leading scorer.
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I'm telling you, a kid named Lenni can't fail.
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4 assists today seems good
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Remember when Lundell couldn't skate. As long as they are quick changing direction and have a motor they will be fine. If he improves his skating you could have a top 6 winger.
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Lenni finishes the showcase with 2 goals and 5 assists (7 points) in 4 games, making him the showcase’s point leader!
Cutter Gauthier finished 2nd with 5 points in 4 games.
Cutter Gauthier finished 2nd with 5 points in 4 games.
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I was kind of thinking of a different right handed shot on our team....how would he compare to someone like Toffoli?
Kind of seems like they have the same vibes. Toffoli is slow, wasn't a great skater. His shot was elite, wasn't super quick which seems kind of similar to Lenni as well. Kind of similar in the size department. Just a good worker with good iq that manages to find a way to get shit done and make it happen
