Value of: Lehkonen at the deadline

[HuGo Sham]

No one is giving up more than a 3rd for Lehkonen, thats just reality.

move along then. weak offers not considered. no need to move him. none

 

[jonlin]

No one is giving up more than a 3rd for Lehkonen, thats just reality.

Reality is that he is worth minimum high 2nd. He wont probably fetch a 1st, but cost-controlled 200ft 3rd liners with some finnishing ability are pretty valuable in playoffs. He is also usable on PK, so teams like Edmonton, Colorado, Florida, Toronto etc. will be interested. Doubt Montreal moves him though if they wont get an overpayment

 

[AmeriHab]

No one is giving up more than a 3rd for Lehkonen, thats just reality.

you’ve gone from saying he’ll return a 2/3rd and seravelli is completely garbage and everyone broke Seattle picks

To no one will pay more than a 3rd and given up on the insider being wrong and you know more. Just taking L’s left and right

 

[RC51]

I hate it when people say " no one will offer " the true statement is "I will not offer" since you dont know what 30 other GM's might do.
Please no blanket statements.

 

[Hostile Offer]

I'd honestly like to keep him around as the kinda guy who will lead by example and play up and down the lineup, and will probably do it at quite a low cost. That's worth more than another 2nd/3rd rounder IMO.

 

[mikeg]

It feels like Lehky is really undervalued on this board. The kid is a coach's dream, and has proved himself in the playoffs. He can play up and down your lineup and in any role. The reality is he just can't finish, but is always so close. In my mind nothing short of a 1st + is just not worth it for us.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I don't see 1st round pick, if i was giving up a 1st for this player, I'd wanna swap 2nds with Montreal then maybe i'd do it but MTL likely would not.

This is someone who will likely be playing in your bottom 6 and won't be with you next year as he's on an expiring deal.

 

[Canadienna]

I don't see 1st round pick, if i was giving up a 1st for this player, I'd wanna swap 2nds with Montreal then maybe i'd do it but MTL likely would not.

This is someone who will likely be playing in your bottom 6 and won't be with you next year as he's on an expiring deal.

Maybe exchanging 3rds instead?

Also he's an RFA, so I don't see why your predicting he's not signed.

I feel like Lehkonen for a 1st would be a hard sell (reasonably) to fans. GMs or scouts might see more value, as he does a lot of good that doesn't show up in highlights or scoresheets.

Or maybe not. If we can't get something enticing for him it wouldn't be a problem at all to keep him. Byron's off the books after next year and Lehkys a good piece to teach the kids the right attitude.

 

[KniespassZegras]

I hate it when people say " no one will offer " the true statement is "I will not offer" since you dont know what 30 other GM's might do.
Please no blanket statements.

its almost as crazy as saying because someone brought a first round pick that means Lehkonen can too.

 

[SlyIslands]

like everyone else did?

No

 

[Baksfamous112]

I don't see 1st round pick, if i was giving up a 1st for this player, I'd wanna swap 2nds with Montreal then maybe i'd do it but MTL likely would not.

This is someone who will likely be playing in your bottom 6 and won't be with you next year as he's on an expiring deal.

He’s a RFA and is cost controlled for another year after this one

 

[McJedi]

I wish the Avs had a 2022 2nd to offer for this player. Beside Danault, this is the only other Habs player I’ve long coveted.

 

[JustAHabFan]

I wish the Avs had a 2022 2nd to offer for this player. Beside Danault, this is the only other Habs player I’ve long coveted.

Habs won't take Avs 2nd. We drafted Lek in the 2nd and developed him to get a 2nd? For a 2nd, it's better for Habs to keep him because there is a good chance the 2nd will amount to nothing. People value too much 2nd over established player.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Is Montreal wanting to trade him? I can see him getting a 3rd. Maybe a 2nd.

 

[Oddbob]

Im sure alot of teams would be interested in him im guessing a 2nd + something small

You will be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for him. He has 15 pts, no team is giving up that for a player like Lehkonen. Vlad Namestnikov has played much better for us, and I think a 3rd is all we get for him.

 

[McSuper]

If all Montreal is being offered is a late 2nd or 3rd rd pick they will likely keep Lehkonen.

Along with Price and Chiarot . Montreal fans are asking too much but then again it only takes 1 idiot GM to overpay so that gives you 31 chances .

 

[Tyrus]

With our current youth system of turning 1st rounders into 2nd rounders level players and 2nd rounders into barely AHL worthy players I'd rather keep the guy around for the full rebuild.

 

[Baksfamous112]

I wish the Avs had a 2022 2nd to offer for this player. Beside Danault, this is the only other Habs player I’ve long coveted.

That wouldn’t cut it. At that price I rather resign him on a 5-6 years contract and keep him for the rebuild. Looks like a good leader and someone young guys could look up to.

You will be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for him. He has 15 pts, no team is giving up that for a player like Lehkonen. Vlad Namestnikov has played much better for us, and I think a 3rd is all we get for him.

Solid take. You go ahead and deal Namestkikov for a third. We’ll keep Lehkonen, thank you

 

[BKarchitect]

I think he's more worthy of a late first than Chiarot given that he's only an RFA.

This chart must be prefaced by the acknowledgement that Lehkonen ranks 10th amongst full-time Habs forwards in even-strength time one ice per game, so he's playing a very limited role. Why he doesn't play more (outside of his top PK duties) when he's been so efficiently good, only Habs fans can answer. But yeah, you can't take this chart - which is spectacular for a limited use 3rd/4th line player - and just extrapolate it and say "OMG he's a Selke candidate and Corsi GOD". Because his impact is extremely nullified by a small role and if I had a dime for every limited use guy with great fancy stats who absolutely bombs when projected into a larger role, I'd be a wealthy dude.

I say all of that disclaimer stuff just to get to the point...on a team that gets absolutely vaporized by advanced metrics on a nightly basis - to put up this kind of chart is absolutely mind-boggling:

 

[BKarchitect]

I wish the Avs had a 2022 2nd to offer for this player. Beside Danault, this is the only other Habs player I’ve long coveted.

Agreed, his chart above looks an awful lot like Nuke's as he was breaking out the last couple of seasons with a limited role. Certainly profiles similarly as a winger who is a defensive warrior but also has some pretty good offensive skills and has really been simply lacking finishing ability and end product. Just a much smaller package. Nuke of course has continued to step up into now a top-6ish role (in ice time at least). I'd be really bullish on what Lehkonen is doing right now and Habs fans are correct to not want to deal him.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Agreed, his chart above looks an awful lot like Nuke's as he was breaking out the last couple of seasons with a limited role. Certainly profiles similarly as a winger who is a defensive warrior but also has some pretty good offensive skills and has really been simply lacking finishing ability and end product. Just a much smaller package. Nuke of course has continued to step up into now a top-6ish role (in ice time at least). I'd be really bullish on what Lehkonen is doing right now and Habs fans are correct to not want to deal him.

The problem is that there are already a lot of sellers. And 3 of the potential buyers are without 1st round picks this year. It's going to be musical chairs regarding which free agents get first round picks. With guys like Giroux, Hertl (possibly), Pavelski (possibly), Chychrun, and Miller available to be traded, the remaining players getting 1sts back might be a lot more finite than in previous years.

 

[McJedi]

Habs won't take Avs 2nd. We drafted Lek in the 2nd and developed him to get a 2nd? For a 2nd, it's better for Habs to keep him because there is a good chance the 2nd will amount to nothing. People value too much 2nd over established player.

The Habs have a lot of players they should trade, but will be nearly impossible to move and a few guys they shouldn’t trade. This guy falls into the latter bucket. But if the Habs want to accumulate picks, I’d offer a 2nd for this player in a heartbeat.

I don’t think you’ll get a 1st on Chairot. There will be other sellers with better offerings. Giordano, Manson and too many better forwards like Hertl, Pavelski, Forsberg, Philly players, Duck players like Rakell that will be likely be available. So I’m hoping your new GM gets antsy and unloads Lehkonen to get in on making a few trades.

I’m banking on the hope the Habs GM wants to make a few moves in season. I don’t think he’ll get a single call on Petry, Price, Gallagher, Drouin, Allen (injured) or Hoffman. So he’ll have limited opportunities to make a deal. He shouldn’t trade an Anderson or especially Toffoli, so that leaves Chairot and Lehkonen as his best trade chips to do something before TDL. If he can’t get a 1st for Chairot, will he move this player to put a stamp on the roster and signal the start of a rebuild? I hope so. Just not to Vegas.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

You will be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for him. He has 15 pts, no team is giving up that for a player like Lehkonen. Vlad Namestnikov has played much better for us, and I think a 3rd is all we get for him.

oh im 100% Lehkonen can land a 2nd round pick hes still an RFA and GMs that want him will not pick him up for hes offense hes a really good defensive player/PK specialist that will occasionally chip in offensively hes actually a great 3rd line player to have i just dont see why Habs should trade him if we cant get more then a 2nd and hes not worth a 1st imo

 

[Mandala]

Just keep Lehkonen. No need to trade him.

 

[Oddbob]

That wouldn’t cut it. At that price I rather resign him on a 5-6 years contract and keep him for the rebuild. Looks like a good leader and someone young guys could look up to.



Solid take. You go ahead and deal Namestkikov for a third. We’ll keep Lehkonen, thank you

I don't care if we trade Nam, and I don't care if you trade Lehkonen. Simply telling you, you won't get a 2nd round pick for a 3rd line player.