Value of: Legit youngish starter to Ottawa

[PatrickMcC]

Sens badly need a good consistent goalie. We’ve never developed one that stayed with us. So I think we need to trade or sign one that is under 30 and that we know is going to be consistent for us. Which teams are willing to do it? Anything is on the table for a package from Ottawa other than Tkachuk, Stützle, and Sanderson. Couple of interesting names like Carter Hart, Jeremy Swayman (I’m sure there are others out there).

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[dahrougem2]

I hear that Filip Gustavsson kid might be worth a look lol

 

[PatrickMcC]

I hear that Filip Gustavsson kid might be worth a look lol

Before everyone starts piling on about Gustavsson… yes it’s funny that the next season after he gets traded, he’s posting unreal numbers in Minny. But it would be disingenuous at best to believe that if Ottawa would have simply kept him he’d be having the same career year. Obviously he has lots of potential but everyone knows that Minny is a much better defensive team and goalies are much better insulated there. Heck look at Cam Talbot from last year, he played great for Minny (0.911%) until they got Fleury. Let’s just move on and stay on topic.

Edit: Gustavsson was awful for us last year. At the time, the trade was a reasonable bet. I’m also willing to bet that there’s no way he keeps up these same numbers.

 

[dahrougem2]

Before everyone starts piling on about Gustavsson… yes it’s funny that the next season after he gets traded, he’s posting unreal numbers in Minny. But it would be disingenuous at best to believe that if Ottawa would have simply kept him he’d be having the same career year. Obviously he has lots of potential but everyone knows that Minny is a much better defensive team and goalies are much better insulated there. Heck look at Cam Talbot from last year, he played great for Minny (0.911%) until they got Fleury. Let’s just move on and stay on topic.

Edit: Gustavsson was awful for us last year. At the time, the trade was a reasonable bet. I’m also willing to bet that there’s no way he keeps up these same numbers.

So then what's the point of the thread? Sens had a young goalie with potential and got rid of him. Why would a different young goalie do well in Ottawa if Gustavsson wouldn't? Ottawa still has the same problems.

 

[PatrickMcC]

So then what's the point of the thread? Sens had a young goalie with potential and got rid of him. Why would a different young goalie do well in Ottawa if Gustavsson wouldn't? Ottawa still has the same problems.

Because Cam Talbot isn’t a good goalie

We definitely screwed up that trade, but more because Cam Talbot was been awful for us and not because Gustavsson is some hidden gem.

In a perfect world, we hold trade for a youngish (under 30) goalie with a proven track record as starter

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

So then what's the point of the thread? Sens had a young goalie with potential and got rid of him. Why would a different young goalie do well in Ottawa if Gustavsson wouldn't? Ottawa still has the same problems.

Ottawa has added 2 of their top 3 DMen and 2 top 6 forwards since trading Goose, not to mention he is far from a legit starter.

Also - you can’t go back in time, so kind of a pointless comment altogether really.

 

[Djp]

On my…a goalie plays well on one team, goes to new team and sucks….dam it must be the goalie.

 

[hamzarocks]

Askarov is a young option

Saaros is a premium elite option

Both will cost a fair bit

 

[PatrickMcC]

On my…a goalie plays well on one team, goes to new team and sucks….dam it must be the

This is the last comment that I will address because this isn’t on topic. Most nhl goalies rely on team defense for their results and only 10 or so of the upper echelon goaltenders can stand on their heads despite playing on teams like Ottawa who aren’t good defensively. Cam Talbot and Filip Gustavsson aren’t those goalies. Both of them have benefited from playing on a stronger defensive team like Minnesota and both of them did not benefit from playing on a team like Ottawa. It’s really not hard to understand if you would have bothered to do research or educate yourself.

 

[Torontonian]

Demko would be a option that could go well for Ottawa.

 

[PatrickMcC]

Demko would be a option that could go well for Ottawa.

I would imagine that Ottawa would be very interested in our end but isn’t Vancouver very keen on keeping him?

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

On my…a goalie plays well on one team, goes to new team and sucks….dam it must be the goalie.

Huh? Who are you even talking about - Talbot?

Your comment would hold more water if Talbot wasn’t clearly outplayed by Forsberg and no more reliable than two guys in their early 20s with basically no pro experience

Demko would be a option that could go well for Ottawa.

Don’t think he is an option but if he is there will be a lot of teams after him

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Just pick up a kid off waivers next season.

 

[Tryamkin]

Is Sogaard not promising? I know he hasn’t had the greatest results but it’s not like he’s had the most solid defense to back him up.

 

[PatrickMcC]

Is Sogaard not promising? I know he hasn’t had the greatest results but it’s not like he’s had the most solid defense to back him up.

He is but he’s not a no doubt legit starter. That’s more of what I’m looking for.

He is but he’s not a no doubt legit starter. That’s more of what I’m looking for.

He’s not a Dustin Wolf, Devon Levi, Jesper Wallstedt caliber guy

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If the Flyers are indeed going towards a rebuild, the Flyers would likely prefer to deal Hart and get assets and not have him winning games, so that might be an option.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Jacob Markstrom could be available

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Askarov is a young option

Saaros is a premium elite option

Both will cost a fair bit

Both are unavailable.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

I could see the Flames parting with Vladar pretty cheap. He might not be ideal but there is a lot of upside there.

We’re stuck with Markstrom unfortunately and Wolf is the guy of the future.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

I could see the Flames parting with Vladar pretty cheap. He might not be ideal but there is a lot of upside there.

We’re stuck with Markstrom unfortunately and Wolf is the guy of the future.

I think this is the most realistic option, and the route I‘d speculate they’d go down.

 

[inthe6ix]

Sens badly need a good consistent goalie. We’ve never developed one that stayed with us. So I think we need to trade or sign one that is under 30 and that we know is going to be consistent for us. Which teams are willing to do it? Anything is on the table for a package from Ottawa other than Tkachuk, Stützle, and Sanderson. Couple of interesting names like Carter Hart, Jeremy Swayman (I’m sure there are others out there).

John Gibson

 

[King Karl]

Askarov is a young option

Saaros is a premium elite option

Both will cost a fair bit

Doubtful Nashville is open to moving either. At this rate maybe just bring back Craig Anderson and hope for the best.

 

[Soundgarden]

Both are unavailable.

Was about to post the same thing.

 

[dirtydanglez]

swayman but in division would cost a fortune.

 

[violaswallet]

Bob?