Thought Leddy had strong game tonight. But this was also about creating space so we can keep Husso, which is feeling like more of a priority with each passing game. So not sure what would have made you say that tonight.
Confirmed with Link: Leddy + Witkowski for Sundqvist + Walman + 2nd 2023
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rumrokh
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The only reason I can possibly guess for this is that you expect his solid play will lead to a bloated contract extension.
rumrokh
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That's kind of the point. He's played well. I can buy disliking the trade from a value perspective, but that's just sealed up as it's made. Liking it less and less as you see Leddy play well is weird to me and only makes sense if it somehow cracks an extension door open wider or something like that. I took a stab.
You nailed it. That, and I am not convinced that Leddy is the missing piece that puts us on a cup run. If we make it to the SCF or even the WCF, I will gladly eat my words, but I am not as confident in that as some. I just think that Sundqvist and 2nd is a high price to pay for a rental that I don't think will make a significant difference in the playoffs.
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Sundqvist is not the player he was for the Cup run. I'll always be a fan, I loved rooting for him on the Blues, but he's just too expensive for the Blues for his performance. Getting out of his contract is generally a plus for the Blues' plans.
So the parts that really matter are Leddy for a 2nd, which looks like it's not a bad deal so far. With Krug out and no Leddy, it's entirely possible the Blues continue to slide out of the playoff picture. I don't mind spending a 2nd just to more firmly put these guys into the playoffs and avoid the Avalanche or Flames in the first round.
Blues are 1 point behind Minny for 2nd place in the division and are 6 points up on Nashville. Blues haven't been out of a playoff spot since early on in the season (if at all) and have won 3 straight with a 6-2-1 record in their last 10. I don't see how they are sliding out of a playoff position
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The context is where they were at the deadline and where they could be now.
I still don't see them having fallen out of the playoffs. Honestly with the games They've played I could see them winning one or two less but still being 3-5 points ahead of Dallas.
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We don't really know. That's the point. I don't consider that scenario comfortable at all with that many games left in the season. I'm in favor of insurance against slipping into a wildcard spot by the end of the season.
And then, of course, I also like watching good hockey. A lot of fans want to avoid making immediate moves if the team isn't a dominant contender - or can only get behind the perfect move. But it's not all or nothing for me.
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I don't really get the 2nd guessing on this deal. The team was sliding and our D needed help. Prices were steep, but we managed to avoid giving up the farm (esp for Chiarot) and created some cap space for next year. Based on Leddy's immediate fit since first stepping into the lineup, I'd say our assessment of him was accurate. He has unquestionably provided a lift, especially in Krug's absence. You have to give to get, and with the team back in rhythm as the playoffs approach (plus hopefully Krug returns soon) we have a shot. What more is there to a deadline deal?
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Leddy has played 21:45 a night since the deadline. That's 3rd on the blue line and 2:22 a night more than #4 (Scandella). He's been the undisputed #3 D man since Krug got hurt midway through Leddy's first game as a Blue. Over that stretch his 5 points are 2nd among Blues D (1 behind Faulk) and he's quarterbacking the top PP unit. He's immediately taken on a major role and I don't think it is at all a given that the team would be seeing similar success if we were seeing Scandella/Mikkola/Rosen out there for a combined 21:45 more every game.
Leddy has 4 points and is a +2 in the 6 game points streak where we have pulled away from Dallas. His presence in the lineup has allowed Berube to scratch a struggling Mikkola, avoid making Scandella play 22+ a night and still shelter Rosen/Bortz. If we couldn't do any of those things, I think it is pretty likely that we lose out on more than just a couple points out of the 11 we got.
We wouldn't have fallen out of the playoffs as of today, but we'd be losing ground and another few weeks without Krug would certainly have us in a fight.
I didn't like this trade when it was made and I still don't like the price we paid. I still don't believe that Leddy addresses this team's biggest weakness. But the trade is absolutely looking better. Leddy is playing well and the player who made his skillset redundant on this roster got hurt midway through Leddy's first game here.
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Sunny isn't much of a price to pay. Some may even argue that he had negative value, if we are talking about the Sunny we see this year. He was an elite 3rd liner in the past; but this year had regressed in a major way. Honestly I didn't see any room on the team for him beyond this year (especially when you need spots for Neighbors, Kostin, and perhaps a couple of others coming up). Good memories with him, but glad to be rid of his contract.
BlueMed
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Just gonna bump this so those above can eat a little crow and humble pie for dessert.
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He has definitely been better than expected. This is why we're fans and guys like Army are GMs.
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bleedblue1223
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Instead of crow or cake, lets wait 15 more games and eat t-ravs out of a special dish.
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I was also more supportive of the trade than not, but not fully sold on Leddy. He's better defensively than I expected and think he does a good job 1v1 with some of the faster/skilled forwards. I think I remember around the time of the trade it was mentioned how he defended against Hall well in the playoffs.
I want to see the entirely of the playoffs, but I wouldn't be opposed to an affordable extension. Definitely been one of Army's better rentals, if not his best rental.
I want to see the entirely of the playoffs, but I wouldn't be opposed to an affordable extension. Definitely been one of Army's better rentals, if not his best rental.
execwrite1
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Guilty, guilty, guilty. Thank you for calling me out. Well deserved.
Another good move by Armstrong. Another bad call by me.
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You are a cruel man, @BlueMed!!!!
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