Post-Game Talk: Leather Jackets @ The Powerhouse | 4/5/19 - 7PM - MSG PLUS

[Gresch04]

Pionk Howden play keep away from each other.

 

[Machinehead]

Someone tell me why we didn’t pull a devils and sit Kreider for the year

Because f*** that.

I hope we lose but f*** that.

 

[nyrage]

That was the best thing he's done all year. Hero.

I hear you, but from a performance perspective, he's just awful. Vesey is another awful player that I've had enough of. He chips in some goals, but he's terrible at everything else.

 

[bl02]

A tank team would lay down and die After that goal. Rangers close to scoring again

 

[bl02]

Because **** that.

I hope we lose but **** that.

Harder to lose with Kreider

 

[Ori]

pls. no OT

 

[Zibanejbread]

Do I have it right that an OTL doesn't hurt us (assume we lose tomorrow)?

No. 1, can't assume anything. 2. If we get 1 point, only 1 team can pass us tomorrow (with a regulation loss)

 

[GAGLine]

Do I have it right that an OTL doesn't hurt us (assume we lose tomorrow)?

If we get 1 point tonight and lose tomorrow (or vice versa), we can't get 4th place, but would still be guaranteed 5th place due to tiebreakers. Both Detroit and Buffalo would be 2 points behind us and only one of them can win.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

A tank team would lay down and die After that goal. Rangers close to scoring again

They're the 2nd worst team since the deadline.

They have been the very definition of a Tank team.

 

[Ori]

I dont understand what Gorton see in Pionk - he is not someone who should be on this rebuild team.

 

[nyrage]

pls. no OT

It's our destiny

 

[Gresch04]

I’m not sure the garden can be any quieter.

 

[Machinehead]

Harder to lose with Kreider

Only clown fiesta organizations like the Devils pretend they have injuries when they don't.

 

[Gresch04]

They're the 2nd worst team since the deadline.

They have been the very definition of a Tank team.

Disagree. They’re just a low talent team. Good fight and work ethic. Just little talent. Built to lose but not quitting like Buffalo.

 

[GAGLine]

This is the opportunity. Don't waste it Columbus.

 

[Gresch04]

What was they call? Lol. Hook?!??

 

[bl02]

They're the 2nd worst team since the deadline.

They have been the very definition of a Tank team.

We shouldn’t be sweating this game out against a team that needs to win

 

[Machinehead]

Disagree. They’re just a low talent team. Good fight and work ethic. Just little talent. Built to lose but not quitting like Buffalo.

I guess it depends on what you classify as "tanking."

I think the Rangers are doing it the right way. They're legitimately really bad without behaving like a Mickey Mouse organization.

 

[nyrage]

They're the 2nd worst team since the deadline.

They have been the very definition of a Tank team.

Tanking implies trying to lose on purpose. We just lack talent, not effort. I guess you can argue that trading our better players over the past couple of years is tanking, yet the players and coaches aren't trying to lose.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Power play got Duchene, Panarin and Werenski and is still dogshit...oh wait I forgot Torts the relic is behind the bench.

 

[Gresch04]

Torts dresses like a guy on probation going to a prayer group and trying not to start another bar fight.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Torts is done if they dont make playoffs

 

[Gresch04]

I guess it depends on what you classify as "tanking."

I think the Rangers are doing it the right way. They're legitimately really bad without behaving like a Mickey Mouse organization.

Agree. Unlike the Debbies aka Mouseketeers.

 

[Zibanejbread]

Yea, the coach/players are trying to be anti-tank. Just not enough talent... yet

 

[Harbour Dog]

You must be kidding.

Nieves returned from concussion, has played well, terrific +/- on a horrible team, no time on PP, his Ws have consistently included the offensive black holes that are McLeod ... and Smtih.

Nieves actually does everything well except score, which is learning process for most.

Smith was a stupid indulgence by the win now crowd which we are still paying for.

The fact that he has improved from worse than atrocious to horrible is not much to brag about.

I don't care if he is 3rd pair, 7th D, or 4th line W.
We will be better off when we jettison this selfish loser, who couldn't be bothered to be professional enough to show up in shape.

This isn't a conversation I want to get into, but I will respond one time and give you the final word.

Granted, Nieves has been an adequate fourth liner this year (a word I would also use for Smith), but let's quickly compare the two.

PP time: Neither gets any; moot point.

PK time: Smith averages about 3x the TOI, and is versatile enough to have a chunk of those minutes as a D (even when dressed as a forward) - advantage Smith

Offense: I'm calling this a wipe. Boo is a little better at creating on his own, Smith is better at working the boards and causing havoc in front (leads the team in drawn penalties).

Defense: Again, a wipe. Boo is okay, but not aggressive enough; compensates with his skating. Smith is smarter and more aggressive, but when he's beaten, he's beaten clean.

To be clear, I'm not saying that we should play Smith over Nieves. I'm not saying that Smith is worth the money he's getting paid if he play on the fourth line. And I'm not saying that Boo won't be better than him as a fourth liner as early as our next training camp even.

What I am saying, is that on a team full of weak fourth liners this season, these two were probably the best; and if we were in a must win situation and could play only one of them on the fourth line, assuming equal quality centre and wing replacements; Smith would give us the better chance of winning.

I won't be responding anymore. Last word is your's.