Post-Game Talk: Leafs win 4-3 in the shootout

[Hoglund4MvP]

Tavares-McMann was the best forwards last night within their roles. We don't need to spend on top 6 winger just upgrade Jarnkrok for the playoffs. Amazing 3rd line.

Jarnkrok was good too but the significance of the line is jt-mcmann

It is really disappointing that Robertson remains 1-dimensional with all the space these 2 create together. It's time to trade while some teams still see Roberts as blue chip

 

[Jojalu]

This win really set up two huge games against Bos this week.

If the Leafs can win both they really have a good shot for home ice in the first round.

 

[Shooter2x]

Tavares-McMann was the best forwards last night within their roles. We don't need to spend on top 6 winger just upgrade Jarnkrok for the playoffs. Amazing 3rd line.

Jarnkrok was good too but the significance of the line is jt-mcmann

It is really disappointing that Robertson remains 1-dimensional with all the space these 2 create together. It's time to trade while some teams still see Roberts as blue chip

That 3rd line winger spot is indeed setup beautifully for a developing prospect with high potential to begin their career. Tavares and McMann + lower QoC provides a well insulated role.

Makes you wonder if Knies should be there and we do go for a LW1 at the deadline. Knies would absolutely kill that role and is 100x more gritty than Jarnkrok. He doesn't seem ready for LW1 yet.

It's a bit sad we have zero prospects otherwise who can go there and would have to waste assets.

 

[Zybalto]

I guess I'll be the one to say it....

Bertuzzi/Domi/Nylander line so far this season:

Shots: 53-49
Scoring Chances: 40-58
High Danger Chances: 12-23
xGF%: 37.57
Goals: 7-6

Should we be worried about our 2nd line? Sure, they are outscoring their woes at the moment but this is not good for long term no?

Moneypucks line ranking for lines with more than 80 minutes together: 208th out of 216.

 

[therealkoho]

Bottom six finally looking figured out. Really liked the McMann Tavares Jarnkrok line.

Exactly and what I was talking about the other day inre McMann JT Robbie. The mix on that line wasn't right. It wasn't so much the chemistry as it was Robbies individualism. With Jarnkrok on the line with his sense of purpose plus discipline, and his overall savvy and a real ability to slow it down to keep a cycle going. Unlike Robbie who is just loading up and letting fly a puck that usually ends up as a change of possession. I'm not shitting on him but he's young, and inexperienced and sometimes doesn't get what the real play is.

Sometimes extending the possession allows JT to get into a position to create a scoring chance. Top to bottom the play that led to the goal is how you get the important goals in the playoffs.

Brodie really needs to have a seat in the PB. I can see that he's really giving it all he's got, but his hesitation and indecisiveness when he's got the puck often leads to big trouble. They gave Sammy some time off when he needed it, maybe they can do the same for Brodie. I don't want to see him blow a playoff series because of a situation where he freezes and delivers a fat hot pizza to the opposition.

 

[bax]

Unfortunate that Lyubushkin got knocked out of the game, but it was a good clean hit by Rempe - - this is the NHL, not women’s hockey.

Another fighting win for Reaves, that’s two in a row in back to back games. Not quite as decisive as his TKO on Beardy O’Brien but Rempe has two black eyes now.

 

[ACC1224]

The ‘everyone is out to get the Leafs’ thought may have surpassed the ‘Marner hate club’ for being tired and idiotic.

 

[therealkoho]

How do they determine intention?

Like they always do

With a Yankee silver dollar!

 

[ToneDog]

I guess I'll be the one to say it....

Bertuzzi/Domi/Nylander line so far this season:

Shots: 53-49
Scoring Chances: 40-58
High Danger Chances: 12-23
xGF%: 37.57
Goals: 7-6

Should we be worried about our 2nd line? Sure, they are outscoring their woes at the moment but this is not good for long term no?

Moneypucks line ranking for lines with more than 80 minutes together: 208th out of 216.

Perhaps Tre can acquire a speedy C (suppose Henrique) who can play with Willy and moving Domi back to the wing is something to consider?

Knies/Domi Matty Mitch
Bert Henrique Willy
Knies/Domi JT Jarnkrok
McMann Kampf Reaves
Holmberg

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

Tavares-McMann was the best forwards last night within their roles. We don't need to spend on top 6 winger just upgrade Jarnkrok for the playoffs. Amazing 3rd line.

Jarnkrok was good too but the significance of the line is jt-mcmann

It is really disappointing that Robertson remains 1-dimensional with all the space these 2 create together. It's time to trade while some teams still see Roberts as blue chip

I agree....Robbie is a 1-trick pony at this stage and it doesn't look like he will ever be much more than that due to his size and skating ability. I would hope some other team thinks they can wring a lot more out of him after seeing his PPG hover around 0.5 and give up a good player.

 

[Roo]

Good game by the boys. It was a tough one and they got the 2 pts. Wonderful game from Sammy, nice to see Tavares have a good game and Willy rise after the 1st period benching.

Brodie didn’t have a good one, but Liljegren’s return was welcome. The kid had a good game and seems to be blossoming.

 

[Gary Nylund]

The ‘everyone is out to get the Leafs’ thought may have surpassed the ‘Marner hate club’ for being tired and idiotic.

Not hard to do as this 'Marner hate club' exists only in your imagination.

Perhaps you could confine your Marner obsession to the Marner thread and not pollute the rest of the forum with your paranoia?

 

[therealkoho]

Tavares played with McMann last night?

Did you not catch the game?

It was the Leafs best line

 

[Racer88]

I don't know about that he's getting the Linsanity treatment in the New York area right now. I mean if he can avoid the lights being turned off he can make a decent buck in the next few years. He's a 6'8 natural athlete who knows how to fight well and can skate. I was very impressed with his showing against Reaves even reavo showed a little respect for the kid by not having an overt celebration post fight. But the reality is Rempe needs to work hard to avoid the same fate as Boogard and others in his line of work. It can't be easy.

It’s a tough road for sure

 

[Racer88]

I guess I'll be the one to say it....

Bertuzzi/Domi/Nylander line so far this season:

Shots: 53-49
Scoring Chances: 40-58
High Danger Chances: 12-23
xGF%: 37.57
Goals: 7-6

Should we be worried about our 2nd line? Sure, they are outscoring their woes at the moment but this is not good for long term no?

Moneypucks line ranking for lines with more than 80 minutes together: 208th out of 216.

With all due respect Maybe just maybe the stats are not accurate or at the least don’t always mean what they look like they mean. The game is played on the ice not on chart paper.

 

[D00bis]

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seriously guys 6'7" why do you have to leave your feet to hit? guess if this was on sid or mackinnon the whole nhl would be up in arms.

 

[fahad203]

Tavares-McMann was the best forwards last night within their roles. We don't need to spend on top 6 winger just upgrade Jarnkrok for the playoffs. Amazing 3rd line.

Jarnkrok was good too but the significance of the line is jt-mcmann

It is really disappointing that Robertson remains 1-dimensional with all the space these 2 create together. It's time to trade while some teams still see Roberts as blue chip

Still would like to see add another winger, maybe Kuzmenko for Matthews line

Knies have looked rather dispointing to me. He's not ready for top 3 role yet.
Last night he was just horrible in so many plays

 

[ACC1224]

Still would like to see add another winger, maybe Kuzmenko for Matthews line

Knies have looked rather dispointing to me. He's not ready for top 3 role yet.
Last night he was just horrible in so many plays

I can see Knies being the 4th line winger come playoffs.

 

[Zybalto]

Perhaps Tre can acquire a speedy C (suppose Henrique) who can play with Willy and moving Domi back to the wing is something to consider?

Knies/Domi Matty Mitch
Bert Henrique Willy
Knies/Domi JT Jarnkrok
McMann Kampf Reaves
Holmberg

Yea, It's never a bad thing to aquire more center depth and Domi moving to wing would solve the supposed winger problem as well.

Maybe this is what we use Robertson for this run?

 

[Zybalto]

With all due respect Maybe just maybe the stats are not accurate or at the least don’t always mean what they look like they mean. The game is played on the ice not on chart paper.

You usually need a larger sample size to get really accurate results of course but it's just not encouraging (outside of the fact Bertuzzi is finally finishing chances).

I dont think Nylander got benched over one play but a culmination of the lines defensive play for a few games really.

I thought they responded decently though the 2nd period and on.

 

[Zybalto]

I don't see how Knies comes off the first line.

They have elite underlying stats and a 70% goal differential with him on the first line. The splits between him and other wingers who have played with MM is pretty wide.

Whk else would you even replace him with?

 

[Jojalu]

You usually need a larger sample size to get really accurate results of course but it's just not encouraging (outside of the fact Bertuzzi is finally finishing chances).

I dont think Nylander got benched over one play but a culmination of the lines defensive play for a few games really.

I thought they responded decently though the 2nd period and on.

I too am a little concerned about the second line constantly getting caved in.

The only bright spot is that Nylander is usually the best player on the ice when his line is out, and they only need one chance to get on the board.

I like that Domi can somewhat skate with Willy, and Bertseems to have turned a corner, but I am curious to see what happens against Bos and Florida with that line.

Thankfully they will see Bos twice this week before the deadline, and they can make a decision.

 

[Budz]

I too am a little concerned about the second line constantly getting caved in.

The only bright spot is that Nylander is usually the best player on the ice when his line is out, and they only need one chance to get on the board.

I like that Domi can somewhat skate with Willy, and Bertseems to have turned a corner, but I am curious to see what happens against Bos and Florida with that line.

Thankfully they will see Bos twice this week before the deadline, and they can make a decision.

For as good as the they are in the Ozone - they are equally as bad (or worse) defensively.

This cannot be our second line.

 

[SprDaVE]

I guess I'll be the one to say it....

Bertuzzi/Domi/Nylander line so far this season:

Shots: 53-49
Scoring Chances: 40-58
High Danger Chances: 12-23
xGF%: 37.57
Goals: 7-6

Should we be worried about our 2nd line? Sure, they are outscoring their woes at the moment but this is not good for long term no?

Moneypucks line ranking for lines with more than 80 minutes together: 208th out of 216.

Domi isn't very good defensively and obviously Bertuzzi isn't a defensive wizard either. If Nylander is having a bad shift/period/game, that line typically gets shelled.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

For as good as the they are in the Ozone - they are equally as bad (or worse) defensively.

This cannot be our second line.

Yup all 3 on that line are average on defense. Maybe switch out Bert for Jarnkrok and it could be a playoff viable line.

I'd like to see Bertuzzi replace Knies on Matthews and Marner's flank come playoffs. Knies makes too many mistakes.