Post-Game Talk: Leafs win 4-1

[BraveCanadian]

I wonder if there is anyone left who doesn’t think he’s being re-signed ?
Berube has gotten his game to another level this season.

Marners anticipation to create that shorty was fantastic.

 

[IPS]

The Atlantic division is going to be boring this season. Two good teams and six mediocre to terrible teams.

Right....

Boston will eventually pick it up and it will be another 3 horse race.

 

[leafsfan5]

There's no question to me this is the best D we've had in years. Also, this system we're playing more resembles a sustainable model, less chaotic, maybe not as entertaining but more predictable.

I like this team. Treliving made some shrewd pickups and we're developing a nice identity under Berube.

It's early but the data is beginning to bear this out too

According to natural stat trick we're 9th in xGA/60, which is a few spots higher than where we'd usually end up with Keefe (around 12-14th)

But the major difference is high danger chances against, in which we rank 2nd for High dangers against/60. Before we used to be a team that wouldn't give up much, but when we did it would be high quality. That's no longer the case, we very rarely give up quality opportunities

The defense is in an amazing spot, and Tre deserves a lot of credit for his pickups and how they've played thus far

 

[PromisedLand]

The single biggest difference with Matthews out is Marner is putting in an extra effort, he is making smarter plays and is shooting the puck more instead of always blowing chances by trying to get it to Matthews.
He does a lot less circling around outside of the play with Matthews out.
This is 100% proof that they need to split those 2 up

This!

 

[Evilhomer]

Right....

Boston will eventually pick it up and it will be another 3 horse race.

Boston may end up taking the third spot, but that would only be because one of the mediocre teams has to take it.

 

[colchar]

According to natural stat trick we're 9th in xGA/60

It really is pathetic that anyone would put any stock in 'expected'. That means nothing, reality is what counts not some fantasy statistic.

 

[leafsfan5]

It really is pathetic that anyone would put any stock in 'expected'. That means nothing, reality is what counts not some fantasy statistic.

I mean, like or not, it's used widely in the league and teams have entire divisions dedicated to advanced analytics

You shouldn't solely rely on it, but it's a valuable tool to aid in analysis

Also, these stats are based on reality. Not all scoring chances end up in the back of the net and result in "what counts", but if you keep getting scoring chances you are more likely to score. This helps track scoring chances and the quality of the opportunities you are creating

 

[DitchMarner]

Right....

Boston will eventually pick it up and it will be another 3 horse race.

I think Tampa will be the team that grabs the third spot in the division. BOS will sneak in as a wild card spot or lose out on a playoff spot to OTT or BUF (more likely the former).

 

[colchar]

I mean, like or not, it's used widely in the league and teams have entire divisions dedicated to advanced analytics

Doesn't make it any less stupid.

You shouldn't solely rely on it, but it's a valuable tool to aid in analysis

Maybe when simming a season in NHL '24, but not in reality.

Also, these stats are based on reality.

'Expected' is not reality, it is fantasy.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Joe Bowen should be on tv for all games, he does radio for both so why not tv.

Apparently TSN was fine with Bowen doing TV but Rogers was not, which means still no Joe on TV with Rogers about to be the sole owner.

 

[Fonzieleaf]

Apparently TSN was fine with Bowen doing TV but Rogers was not, which means still no Joe on TV with Rogers about to be the sole owner.

That's too bad because just about every leaf fan would rather Joe to call the games.

 

[ACC1224]

Marners anticipation to create that shorty was fantastic.

He’s had an excellent season so far, really good. Best season of his career to date. Not sure how much of that is attributed to Berube.

 

[GoonieFace]

He’s had an excellent season so far, really good. Best season of his career to date. Not sure how much of that is attributed to Berube.

Perhaps a little Berube, perhaps a little extra motivation to make some dough.

 

[ACC1224]

Perhaps a little Berube, perhaps a little extra motivation to make some dough.

I don’t believe the money is the motivator as much as remaining a Leaf is. He’ll get paid no matter where he plays.

 

[Gabriel426]

Very structured win again.

What I love about the Willie goal wasn’t the coast to coast but the fact that he attacks the zone instead of dropping it to MM at the center like years past.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I dont need starts i watch the game

 

[Hellcat]

I wonder if there is anyone left who doesn’t think he’s being re-signed ?
Berube has gotten his game to another level this season.

Oh there are but they get awfully quiet when game after game Marner proves them to be fools.... avoids contact, weak shot and slow skater, amirite? he'll go into a little funk some time this season and they will be out again like a bad cold.

Very structured win again.

What I love about the Willie goal wasn’t the coast to coast but the fact that he attacks the zone instead of dropping it to MM at the center like years past.

I realized last week. that for the first time in a long time, that I dont have an elevated heart rate when the team has a lead in the 3rd period.

 

[Hellcat]

The single biggest difference with Matthews out is Marner is putting in an extra effort, he is making smarter plays and is shooting the puck more instead of always blowing chances by trying to get it to Matthews.
He does a lot less circling around outside of the play with Matthews out.
This is 100% proof that they need to split those 2 up

Marner and Nik need to be on a line, Matty/ Domi has another line and Nylander and Tavares have another line.

 

[Racer88]

Marner and Nik need to be on a line, Matty/ Domi has another line and Nylander and Tavares have another line.

It’s certainly worth a try

 

[PromisedLand]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1855757388046827846

 

[conFABulator]

I agree with

Marner and Nik need to be on a line, Matty/ Domi has another line and Nylander and Tavares have another line.

I like the pairings of forwards but does this put Holmberg in the top nine with 16 and 89?

I would like to see

Knies/McMann Matthews Robertson
Pacioretty Tavares Nylander
Knies/McMann Domi Marner

 

[1specter]

It's early but the data is beginning to bear this out too

According to natural stat trick we're 9th in xGA/60, which is a few spots higher than where we'd usually end up with Keefe (around 12-14th)

But the major difference is high danger chances against, in which we rank 2nd for High dangers against/60. Before we used to be a team that wouldn't give up much, but when we did it would be high quality. That's no longer the case, we very rarely give up quality opportunities

The defense is in an amazing spot, and Tre deserves a lot of credit for his pickups and how they've played thus far

FWIW, Moneypuck has us at 4th in xGA/60 at 5v5. It is a bit odd how each of these sites tracks it differently, but regardless the team seems to be trending positively with respect to defense.

 

[Nineteen67]

I wonder if there is anyone left who doesn’t think he’s being re-signed ?
Berube has gotten his game to another level this season.

I think the Leafs want to re-sign him but it would be in everyone’s best interest to wait and see if he can play in the playoffs. That’s always been Marner’s Achilles and he was afforded an other opportunity by the Leafs to prove he’s worth an increase in pay.

If he fails again, and really wants to remain with a Leafs , he can always sign for less than he makes now.

 

[LeafParade]

I assume Giroux cannot play C anymore, because I suspect he could become available at the deadline.
The Sens are going nowhere, and I don't know if he wants to spend what he has left there even if its home.

 

[bax]

Apparently TSN was fine with Bowen doing TV but Rogers was not, which means still no Joe on TV with Rogers about to be the sole owner.

Was there ever an explanation from Rogers as to why they said no?