The Shadow
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I think we got lucky to move him. I wish him well and great success. It was time
Confirmed with Link: Leafs Trade: Liljegren to San Jose for Matt Benning, 3rd and 6th
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Why? The situation is the situation. He didn't fit, we need picks and San Jose won't win a cup. Sure a new environment may help but it wasn't going to be here and we need another C. You don't pay 3 million to a guy the coach won't play. He maybe the next Stralman but he wasn't going to help us win a cup. Go look at the 2017 draft..it's hellabad. Most drafts he is a second rounder. He may even told them..trade me.
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The answer to this is factual and not opinion based. If you're a fan of this team, you know the answer to this.
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Because he might have gotten more through arbitration. They were worried that he might come in much higher because of the advanced fancy stats. If a meh player like Sandin signs for well over $4M....it would scare the Leafs into making a deal I guess.
Martin Skoula
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I guess I’d be confused about paying a guy 3 mil if no one in the league values him at even a late 2nd in that case.
Menzinger
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A fair question to say the least.
One would assume Tre figured he'd be able to get something for him on the market. But it's a puzzling deal to give to a guy with clearly little value around the league
uncleben
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You'd have to imagine he'd have had more value (even if marginally) if he wasn't benched and sold low
Why would anyone in the League pay market price, let alone a premium, when Tre is in a corner, approaching an IR cap crunch, and it's obvious he wants to move Lily
DarkKnight
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How many times do people have to say it, was either sign him or let him walk for nothing. What sounds smarter to you? Crazy anyone thinks differently, he was going to arbitration.
Menzinger
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The entire handling him was dysfunctional, and it goes beyond the last few months too.
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Stephen
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I suppose they could have walked away from Liljegren and not qualified him, but then they wouldn't have these marginal picks.
Olli Maatta was traded for a third rounder 2 days ago and makes $3 million.
ULF_55
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Yup. Just received 2 picks for him and maybe they flip Benning and get another pick.
So let him walk... or 2 to 3 picks.
But that's bad assest management?
I liked Lilly too but he wasn't improving enough on a team trying to win now.
He could very well get better and I wish him all the best but he went to the right team for now.
Stephen
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It was reported they were after Matt Roy as well in the offseason but didn't get him cause they couldn't go that high. Roy makes $5.75 million with Washington, so maybe we have him instead of OEL... maybe they could have grabbed another middle six guy with the money.
Stephen
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How is it puzzling in the least?
They signed Liljegren to a contract to a) hedge against heavier arbitration award and b) letting him walk as a UFA... mission accomplished.*
*The opportunity cost was having more cap space in free agency, but they still got OEL, Tanev and Stolarz who have fit in well.
They wait a few months, realized he's not in their plans in camp, explored the market, pulled the trigger on a trade and have cleared out the bulk of his salary. In all of this they've managed to lose no one on waivers, and are in position to activate a few guys off LTIR.
he might not be over the Marchand hit yet. For whatever reason, injuries like that can throw you off for like a season or more even after you're 100% healthy again.
Menzinger
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I think awarding a contract to a guy who you know isn't worth it AND giving him term carries a considerable amount of unnecessary risk. Especially when you knew there was a reasonable chance the new coach wouldn't have much interest in showcasing him.
Tre put himself in a hole, and had to quickly dig himself out. It's worked out, in the end, so water under the bridge for the most part. But I don't think anyone can say this was an ideal situation (with a straight face, at least)
I actually liked Tres free agency this year,l. Having 3 more mil to play around with could have given the third line an extra impact player, or maybe being able to add a 6 mil D man if need be. It's not unreasonable to think that 3 mil in free agency could be more impactful than whatever Tre trades that 3rd rounder for at the tdl next year.
DarkKnight
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Also by signing him and strategically giving most of the money in bonuses, it always meant it would be easier to move. He had arb rights, we made the best of it for sure
Stephen
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If he didn't qualify Liljegren everyone would have been upset they let such a wonderful asset walk to free agency with what little RHD depth we had...
We must never forget what Marchand did. Reeves was gutless and Xhekaj proved he is a weak man full of fear. I would have traded Reeves the next day. He needs to be waived as he clearly is not capable of doing his job. He is an unneeded part clogging up the ice.
Martin Skoula
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Is people on a message board being upset a relevant factor for a GM’s decision making?
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