Leafs starting line-up 24/25

[namttebih]

The total minutes are over 60, is that because we run four forwards on the PP?

Your lines are good and I get what you ware doing. I really want to see if Marner can be Nylander's winger. If those two click it's hard to imagine a better two lines in the NHL.

Knies Matthews Domi (20)
XXXXX Nylander Marner (19)
Robertson Tavares McMann (15)
Holmberg Kampf Jarnkrok (12)

XXXXX could be Pacioretty, Holmberg, Jarnkrok, Grebyenkin, or Cowan

My math was wrong because it was 2am and I was a few pops deep. Haha

I don't disagree with your second line idea, but my intention was to have each of them drive their own line.

 

[thusk]

This is exactly what I was about to respond to his post. I like the Idea of running 3 lines driven my Matthews, Marner and Nylander. I'm still not even sure if there's enough ice time, but Nylander's line would more than likely be used in limited settings.

Knies Matthews Domi

Possible break out season for Knies. Big body, puck retrieval. Domi's play making and Matthews' scoring. Domi the one week link defensively.

20 minutes a night

Robertson Tavares Marner

Have Marner feed Robertson. Marner and Tavares defensively responsible. Give Robertson a chance to prove himself. Give him more than a quick look. Have Mitch show him how to avoid getting hurt with a small frame. Give him a specific job in hopes that he truly becomes a leader. Mentor Nick.

18 mins


McMann Nylander Jarnkrok

Have Nylander flanked by defensively responsible guys with 20 goal potential.

16 mins - which is less than you would want Willy to play, but give him a year. Give him an actual chance to play the position in hopes that he can take Tavares' spot the following year.

Pacioretty Kampf Holmberg

All D zone starts obviously. Pacioretty has received Selke votes in the past.

12 mins

line are not static all game long, Berube can still send exemple nylander with matthews on specific situation or whatever

 

[notDatsyuk]

my limited critera hahaha when you just talking with your eye-test view, it's very funny

so let's see statistically the nylander production steading up at 5v5


2016-2017 11 goal 20 assists 31 pts
2017-2018 12 goal 33 assists 45 pts
2018-2019 6 goal 15 assist in 54 game
( 32 pts
2019-2020 19 goal 19 assist 38 pts
2020-2021 11 goal 15 assist in 51 game (18 goal 24 assist for a complete season) 42 pts
2021-2022 18 goal 22 assist 40 pts
2022-2023 22 foal 27 assist 49 pts
2023-2024 22 goal 23 assist 45 pts

the 45 pts in 2017-2018 in my mind is = at the same number of 45 pts in 2023-2024...no? The main difference is since he was playing with JT, his number of goal raised

So again you either completely misread what I said, or are just ignoring it because you have no answer.

Please stop wasting my time.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Q:

Is there a GDT thread yet?

 

[Dog]

Tavares was never worth 10M let alone 11M

He has been overpaid every year of his deal

He has been a 8-9M player for Y1-5 and then 5-6M last year

he is likely a 3-4M player the next 2-3 years

Tavares career high is 88 pts as a leaf, that type of production will get Nylander trade demand threats at 11.5M from this fanbase

Tavarew was the biggest blunder leafs have made since 2016

I would not call it total blunder since we made the playoffs. Tavares struggled last playoffs but he was not the only one. Is his contract overpaid maybe but they took that risk when they overpaid to guarantee him to sign in Toronto. They were having hard time driving offense because Matthew's and Nylander were out of most games last playoffs.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

Lordamercy

 

[TheDoldrums]

The problem with having Nylander as a centre is that neither his line nor Tavares’ line is going to be great defensively. You can’t have both your middle 6 lines be offensive lines, it will get exposed by good teams.

 

[TMLAM34]

Nylander - Domi combo is awful. Not sure why they thought that would even be a good thing.

 

[Bloomberg]

Knies -Matthews - Domi
Patches - Tavares - Marner
McMann - Nylander - Greb
Jarnrok - Kampf - Dewar/Robertson

 

[Stephen]

Nylander - Domi combo is awful. Not sure why they thought that would even be a good thing.

I wonder if they try to recreate the Matthews Domi chemistry at some point, maybe think about a Marner-Nylander duo if Nylander stays at C.

 

[TMLAM34]

I wonder if they try to recreate the Matthews Domi chemistry at some point, maybe think about a Marner-Nylander duo if Nylander stays at C.

Hopefully, Domi played some of his best hockey next to Matthews. I also found Matthews a little more aggressive in his play knowing he had two (Bertuzzi and Domi) players that play with a bit of an edge and can drop the gloves. You can almost recreate that line by having Knies, Matthews and Domi.

 

[ZEBROA]

Knies -Matthews - Domi
McMann - Nylander - Marner/A Nylander
Patches - Tavares - Greb/ Dewar/Robertson/Jarnkrok/A Nylander /Marner
Holmberg- Kampf - Jarnkrok

I know A Nylander need to play insainly good to get a contract, So not likely. But if, this is what i would like to try. Not fully conficent in Knies on the 1st line either.

 

[TMLAM34]

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Pacioretty - Tavares - Marner
McMann - Nylander - Grebenkin
Jarnkrok - Kampf - Reaves

Rielly - Tanev
Benoit - McCabe
OEL - Hakanpaa

Woll - Stolarz

 

[Ciao]

Monday-morning musings:

FORWARDS:

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Pacioretty - Nylander - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Grebenkin
McMann - Jarnkrok - Holmberg
Cowan-Dewar

Trade:
Kampf - with sweetener(s) and no retention.

Trade, or waive & assign to AHL (if cleared):
Reaves
Steeves
Abruzzese

Assign to AHL:
All other waivers-exempt forwards, defencemen, and goaltenders (except Knies, Grebenkin, and Cowan).

DEFENCE:

Rielly - Tanev
McCabe - Liljegren
Benoit - Hakanpaa
Ekman-Larsson

Trade, or waive & assign to AHL (if cleared):
Timmins
Rifai
Mermis
Myers

GOAL:

Woll
Stolarz

Trade, or waive & assign to AHL(if cleared):
Murray

Ask me tomorrow and I will have completely changed my mind by then.

24 hours is a lifetime in training camp.

 

[Ciao]

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Pacioretty - Tavares - Marner
McMann - Nylander - Grebenkin
Jarnkrok - Kampf - Reaves

Rielly - Tanev
Benoit - McCabe
OEL - Hakanpaa

Woll - Stolarz

Not bad at all, but you have to trade or waive two of Liljegren, Timmins, Holmberg, and Dewar; and send Cowan back to junior to make this fit.

Trade or waive Timmins and Dewar? That might do it?

 

[stickty111]

Have to think Grebenkin is penciled in after yesterday's game. Cowen probably is sent down. Paches will be on the team too.
So forwards would be

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Jankrok-Nylander-Domi
Paches-JT-Robertson
Reaves-Kampf-McMann
Dewer-Holmberg-Grebenkin

All these are locks or close to locks. We have some decisions to make.

 

[Ciao]

Have to think Grebenkin is penciled in after yesterday's game. Cowen probably is sent down. Paches will be on the team too.
So forwards would be

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Jankrok-Nylander-Domi
Paches-JT-Robertson
Reaves-Kampf-McMann
Dewer-Holmberg-Grebenkin

All these are locks or close to locks. We have some decisions to make.

Cowan can't go to the AHL -- only back to junior. I'm good with that today, if that's what has to happen. Ask me again tomorrow.

Also, one too many players for a 23-player roster, and not enough room to sign Patches without moving a salary. The Leafs have $30,000 cap space with a 22-player roster.

 

[DragoGrizzly]

Even though OEL didn’t play all that great last night I think he’s gonna be fine. Reminds me of how horrid Benoit looked in his first preseason game last year and we all wrote him off only to have him become one of the better stories of last year. OEL looked pretty good in the run to the cup last year, he’ll be better.

 

[sxvnert]

Knies Matthews Marner
Pacioretty Nylander Domi
McMann Tavares Jarnkrok
Dewer Lorentz Reaves

 

[horner]

Have to think Grebenkin is penciled in after yesterday's game. Cowen probably is sent down. Paches will be on the team too.
So forwards would be

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Jankrok-Nylander-Domi
Paches-JT-Robertson
Reaves-Kampf-McMann
Dewer-Holmberg-Grebenkin

All these are locks or close to locks. We have some decisions to make.

How is Paches defensively

I think there could be 2 trades
Kampf Jarnkrok or Ljiligren

Use the assets for a 3rd line center