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Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign RHD John Klingberg (1 year, $4.15M) | UPD 11/23: LTIR

It is a bad Leaf trait going after da Barrie's and Klingberg's .. these 3rd pair PP offensive guys on D are a huge waste of time in playoffs .. maybe ok if sheltered for 3rd pair minutes in regular season but do not help in a Cup pursuit .. given we have Rielly I just don't get da waste of our CAP space on this type of player .. much rather have a hard *ss big nasty D like Schenn to pair with Rielly
 
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I’m a little scared he ends up becoming Barrie 2.0.

I’ll be honest - would’ve way rather Dumba to Klingberg, as Dumba at least provides something defensively and is physical.
 
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jaric1862 said:
I’m a little scared he ends up becoming Barrie 2.0.

I’ll be honest - would’ve way rather Dumba to Klingberg, as Dumba at least provides something defensively and is physical.
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Sometimes it's okay to have a Barrie on the team.

Barrie went on to Edmonton and was great for them, Babcock doomed him from the start.

Even going back to the Florida series, if we had a Dman that was more offensive minded, it could have been HUGE that series.

The right side just provided nothing in turns of anything dynamic(Brodie/Holl/Liljegren).
 
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jaric1862 said:
I’m a little scared he ends up becoming Barrie 2.0.

I’ll be honest - would’ve way rather Dumba to Klingberg, as Dumba at least provides something defensively and is physical.
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I'll be honest, I hope he can put out Barrie level offense. Leafs NEED more offense, especially from the back end. It's been bleak last few years. I didn't look this up, but I'm confident they've been average at best in goal scoring from defensemen, especially from all the playoff teams.

The Leafs really only have Rielly with above average offense abilities. Liljegren is projecting ok but still average overall. Brodie is really good defensively but struggles badly in creating offense. McCabe has never scored more than 4 goals a season. Giordano is on his last legs. Even while struggling quite a bit, Klingberg was able to put up 10 goals last year, which would be tops on the Leafs.

We really underestimate what an offensive defenseman can do, especially on the PP and in terms of goal scoring abilities from the point.
 
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SprDaVE said:
I'll be honest, I hope he can put out Barrie level offense. Leafs NEED more offense, especially from the back end. It's been bleak last few years. I didn't look this up, but I'm confident they've been average at best in goal scoring from defensemen, especially from all the playoff teams.

The Leafs really only have Rielly with above average offense abilities. Liljegren is projecting ok but still average overall. Brodie is really good defensively but struggles badly in creating offense. McCabe has never scored more than 4 goals a season. Giordano is on his last legs. Even while struggling quite a bit, Klingberg was able to put up 10 goals last year, which would be tops on the Leafs.

We really underestimate what an offensive defenseman can do, especially on the PP and in terms of goal scoring abilities from the point.
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Which really makes the Sandin trade even dumber. We got a late first (I'm ignoring the player who came too because he wasn't really used and is gone).

I'd rather have had Sandin right now than Klingberg, but we'll see how this plays out.
 
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Which really makes the Sandin trade even dumber. We got a late first (I'm ignoring the player who came to because he want really used and is gone).

I'd rather have had Sandin right now than Klingberg, but we'll see how this plays out.
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Sandin needs a lot more work on his overall game and in the moment last season, he wasn't even going to play after McCabe was acquired. He struggled as a RD and struggled when given minutes. So I think getting some future value worked out. His offensive game is really good though for sure, and he'll get a better opportunity in Washington.

We'll see how Klingberg does on a better team though and a fresh mind set with a better cast.
 
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X66 said:
Even going back to the Florida series, if we had a Dman that was more offensive minded, it could have been HUGE that series.
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Well, we had an offensive minded defenseman on the roster who even got a goal against Florida. But our coach preferred to play a clearly struggling Giordano over him.
 
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SprDaVE said:
Sandin needs a lot more work on his overall game and in the moment last season, he wasn't even going to play after McCabe was acquired. He struggled as a RD and struggled when given minutes. So I think getting some future value worked out. His offensive game is really good though for sure, and he'll get a better opportunity in Washington.

We'll see how Klingberg does on a better team though and a fresh mind set with a better cast.
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Yeah, I don't disagree with anything you said here. I'm using a bit of hindsight, obviously, but I also didn't like the value of the trade when it happened.
 
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Klingberg will man the #1 PP for awhile, unless it doesn't work out over time. But it indirectly helps PP2 since Rielly will be there instead of Giordano.
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He looked a little bit rusty in his preseason debut but the puck movement on that last PP was a nice little sampler pack of what he can do when he’s on. Direct a puck on net and distribute clean and crisp.
 
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He looked a little bit rusty in his preseason debut but the puck movement on that last PP was a nice little sampler pack of what he can do when he’s on. Direct a puck on net and distribute clean and crisp.
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I mean the rest of his game was a sample of what he does defensively...

Let's just hope he can have a rebound year. With a more sheltered role and maybe less pressure to perform since we are locks for the playoffs, maybe he can turn his career around.
 
Started the game looking kind of bored and disengaged, made some really careless plays as a result. Got into it more as the game went on and I thought he showed what he can provide. Hopefully he doesn't need much coaxing to get a full effort, we've had enough of those types.
 
HomelessPepper said:
Which really makes the Sandin trade even dumber. We got a late first (I'm ignoring the player who came too because he wasn't really used and is gone).

I'd rather have had Sandin right now than Klingberg, but we'll see how this plays out.
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You do realize that the first round pick that came back turned into Easton Cowan, right?
 
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Kinda a mixed bag from him tonight. I really wasn’t impressed with him at first but he got better later in the game.
Most of my complaints with him earlier in the game could be explained by rustiness and a lack of chemistry with players he doesn’t know yet.

There was some good and some bad tonight. Hopefully we see more of the good than bad when he is in regular season form.
 
I was impressed with him once the game got going. I expect him to continue to improve on that and have a good season. He has a lot of elite tools at his disposal and playing with a defensive defenseman like McCabe or Brodie should be good for him.
 
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Klingberg stinks worse than whatever's in the bottom of my fridge where the vegetables are supposed to go.

Crappy player is crappy.

Klingberg wants to be a forward sooooo badly. He's given up even trying to be a defenseman proper. He's worse than Holl defensively ffs.

I'd really like to know what fancy stats Treliving was looking at when he signed this guy.

Any public stat available tells us Klingberg stinks. He looks like a good third pairing defenseman. Except he gets paid like a good second pair defenseman.

If he gets hurt and can't play their chances of winning go up.

The only reason he's getting top four minutes is because the coach stinks too. Like someone who paints with crap and calls it art. Might fool a few people into thinking it looks good but guess what?

It still stinks.

So does Klingberg.
 
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His skill is very apparent whenever the Leafs have possession and are either moving north or in the offensive zone. It's almost inarguable that in the right situation, he can be an extremely valuable player.

Do I think that Keefe and the current make up of the roster are best for maximizing his game? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe?
 
TMLBlueandWhite said:
Klingberg stinks worse than whatever's in the bottom of my fridge where the vegetables are supposed to go.

Crappy player is crappy.

Klingberg wants to be a forward sooooo badly. He's given up even trying to be a defenseman proper. He's worse than Holl defensively ffs.

I'd really like to know what fancy stats Treliving was looking at when he signed this guy.

Any public stat available tells us Klingberg stinks. He looks like a good third pairing defenseman. Except he gets paid like a good second pair defenseman.

If he gets hurt and can't play their chances of winning go up.

The only reason he's getting top four minutes is because the coach stinks too. Like someone who paints with crap and calls it art. Might fool a few people into thinking it looks good but guess what?

It still stinks.

So does Klingberg.
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I think you've covered a lot of ground here but why not dump on Shanny while you're at it?
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Hoverhand said:
His skill is very apparent whenever the Leafs have possession and are either moving north or in the offensive zone. It's almost inarguable that in the right situation, he can be an extremely valuable player.

Do I think that Keefe and the current make up of the roster are best for maximizing his game? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe?
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In the 30 second PP at the end of regulation Klingberg showed us what he could do on the point, starting with the passing sequence that led to the Matthews shot attempt, or the shot that created the scoring opportunity and goal for Marner. He was just a highly skilled, dynamic presence would could move the puck efficiently.

There were other times when he didn’t seem to be that sharp. Over stickhandling at the point, letting the puck roll off him casually and casually roaming well out of position.

Generally he looks like the guy who can easily make all the plays Keefe had Holl attempting to make, little pinch plays, etc. so it’s just a matter of him getting that rust off. Staying focused and just play some sheltered minutes while he gets his Leaf legs.
 
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This guy is terrible. He sucks. Bad signing.

This Leafs team is in big trouble.
 
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