Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign RHD John Klingberg (1 year, $4.15M) | UPD 11/23: LTIR

[socko]

Don't see any reason Bertuzzi would play over Nylander on the PP. Big talent gap between the two of them.

 

[authentic]

Morgan Rielly and Willy Nylander might be seeing PP#2 time when Klingberg and Bertuzzi join PP#1.

A shot from the point and someone standing in the crease and screening the goalie while occupying the defense will give new PP coach Guy Boucher a whole new look in 2024.

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Klingberg in no stranger to running a successful PP.

Appears very similar to Rielly statistically.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

The reason we signed Klingberg at 4+ instead of Gustafson at 850 k is they believe he can be more then just a Barrie/Gus type D, who are really like forwards. If they wanted a pure OFD they could have just brought back Gus for cheap. But Klingberg has size and apparently he can be more physical and when he was on his game he was more defensively sound. It’s hard to know what we will get but it sounds like in his prime he was closer to Morgan Rielly level then Tyson Barrie.

Good post. I am in his corner and I hope he works out.

 

[Menzinger]

Don't see any reason Bertuzzi would play over Nylander on the PP. Big talent gap between the two of them.

Yep. Also, the Leafs have a self interest in not inflating Bertuzzi's pp production if they'd like to extend him down the line

 

[IPS]

Don't see any reason Bertuzzi would play over Nylander on the PP. Big talent gap between the two of them.

If we're going a new look on the PP, I want Matthews-Marner-Nylander-Bertuzzi-Klingberg

You'd still have Rielly, Tavares, Knies, Domi for the 2nd unit.

 

[Mess]

Don't see any reason Bertuzzi would play over Nylander on the PP. Big talent gap between the two of them.

Style of play.

Nylander is a perimeter shooter and will not play in traffic. Bertuzzi is like a poor mans Matt Tkachuk who will stand in the crease and screen the goalie and keep the defense occupied near the blue paint.

If Klingberg will be blasting away from the point someone taking away the eyes of the goalie go hand in hand.

We have seen in the playoffs where Leafs PP dries up because the opposition simply collapses into a tight box in front of their netminder and that blocks shots while blocking out the Leafs talented but soft players keeping them on the perimeter and away from the high danger scoring spots.

Brace for greasy goals from Bertuzzi net front presence.

 

[socko]

I just think we need to pump the brakes a little on the hype of a guy with one 30 goal season. And the Leafs aren't exactly short of guys to hang around the net on the PP, I would say that is stronger than the perimeter shooting. Perimeter shooting is pretty weak.

 

[LeafChief]

Style of play.

Nylander is a perimeter shooter and will not play in traffic. Bertuzzi is like a poor mans Matt Tkachuk who will stand in the crease and screen the goalie and keep the defense occupied near the blue paint.

If Klingberg will be blasting away from the point someone taking away the eyes of the goalie go hand in hand.

We have seen in the playoffs where Leafs PP dries up because the opposition simply collapses into a tight box in front of their netminder and that blocks shots while blocking out the Leafs talented but soft players keeping them on the perimeter and away from the high danger scoring spots.

Brace for greasy goals from Bertuzzi net front presence.

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Does that last photo of Tomas Nosek taking the puck to the net have anythign to do with Tyler Bertuzzi?

 

[LeafEgo]

Style of play.

Nylander is a perimeter shooter and will not play in traffic. Bertuzzi is like a poor mans Matt Tkachuk who will stand in the crease and screen the goalie and keep the defense occupied near the blue paint.

If Klingberg will be blasting away from the point someone taking away the eyes of the goalie go hand in hand.

We have seen in the playoffs where Leafs PP dries up because the opposition simply collapses into a tight box in front of their netminder and that blocks shots while blocking out the Leafs talented but soft players keeping them on the perimeter and away from the high danger scoring spots.

Brace for greasy goals from Bertuzzi net front presence.

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If he goes PP1 he probably takes JTs spot. Dual threats Matty and Willy on the side walls with the Kling Bomb up top would be pretty gnarly.

 

[Mess]

I just think we need to pump the brakes a little on the hype of a guy with one 30 goal season. And the Leafs aren't exactly short of guys to hang around the net on the PP, I would say that is stronger than the perimeter shooting. Perimeter shooting is pretty weak.

These were the kind of headlines missing from Leafs Panthers series.​

Tyler Bertuzzi Excels in Game 1 as Bruins Down Florida Panthers​

Tyler Bertuzzi was pretty emotional when the Detroit Red Wings traded him to the Boston Bruins at the trade deadline — but he seemed over it Monday night as he made his postseason debut one to remember.

Bertuzzi, the nephew of Todd, was one of the big reasons the Boston Bruins took care of business in a 3-1 victory over the Panthers in Game 1 on Monday night.

His no-look pass on Boston’s second power play early in the first went right on David Pastrnak’s stick and the Bruins were off and running.

He later put a shot on Alex Lyon that the Florida goalie could not pull in leading to the final goal of the night late in the second.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Bertuzzi Thread

 

[AcerComputer]

If we're going a new look on the PP, I want Matthews-Marner-Nylander-Bertuzzi-Klingberg

You'd still have Rielly, Tavares, Knies, Domi for the 2nd unit.

1PP: Matthews-Marner-Tavares-Bertuzzi-Klingberg
2PP: Matthews-Marner-Nylander-Knies-Rielly
2PP-alt: Marner-Nylander-Knies-Domi-Rielly

I think the Leafs double shift Marner and Matthews, especially Marner.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Style of play.

Nylander is a perimeter shooter and will not play in traffic. Bertuzzi is like a poor mans Matt Tkachuk who will stand in the crease and screen the goalie and keep the defense occupied near the blue paint.

If Klingberg will be blasting away from the point someone taking away the eyes of the goalie go hand in hand.

We have seen in the playoffs where Leafs PP dries up because the opposition simply collapses into a tight box in front of their netminder and that blocks shots while blocking out the Leafs talented but soft players keeping them on the perimeter and away from the high danger scoring spots.

Brace for greasy goals from Bertuzzi net front presence.

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Above is a heat map of the goals Nylander scored last year, what the hell are you talking about?

Are you confused how you spell Bertuzzi also? I can see how N-O-S-E-K is tricky, if you change 5 letters and add another 3 you get Bertuzzi.

 

[DueDiligence]

Kadri's not as big of a loss as you make it out to be. We let a lot more than Kadri walk out the door this offseason to pay for this.

At his previous salary of $4.5 million per year Kadri was a big loss.

 

[IPS]

dude sucked in one post-season, got suspended in another and was so-so in their cup run scoring a timely goal that makes his overall contribution seem greater than it was. overall dudes a liability and honestly an addition by subtraction in most cases.

No wonder you guys were such sour grapes when Kadri won the cup. It costs you nothing to give him proper credit, I really don't see what's so hard about it.

 

[Dekes For Days]

At his previous salary of $4.5 million per year Kadri was a big loss.

Not really. He was just another complimentary guy, and one that was causing countless headaches.
No bigger loss than players we lost this offseason to pay for a worse Barrie in Klingberg.

 

[notbias]

Morgan Rielly and Willy Nylander might be seeing PP#2 time when Klingberg and Bertuzzi join PP#1.

A shot from the point and someone standing in the crease and screening the goalie while occupying the defense will give new PP coach Guy Boucher a whole new look in 2024.

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Klingberg in no stranger to running a successful PP.

He ran a worse PP than Toronto...

I think he will give us a different look, but no guarantee he will be on PP1.

As much as people like to complain, we have a really good PP and Rielly is not a bad QB, he just doesn't have a great shot.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Style of play.

Nylander is a perimeter shooter and will not play in traffic. Bertuzzi is like a poor mans Matt Tkachuk who will stand in the crease and screen the goalie and keep the defense occupied near the blue paint.

If Klingberg will be blasting away from the point someone taking away the eyes of the goalie go hand in hand.

We have seen in the playoffs where Leafs PP dries up because the opposition simply collapses into a tight box in front of their netminder and that blocks shots while blocking out the Leafs talented but soft players keeping them on the perimeter and away from the high danger scoring spots.

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Still selling that ocean front property in Saskatchewan eh mess?

 

[Notsince67]

I get the distinct feeling that Kingberg might get on my nerves a few times this coming season

 

[ITM]

Nylander is a perimeter shooter and will not play in traffic.

Another member beat me to the map of Nylander’s goals.

Nylander gains the zone as well any Leaf, and drives the net as well as any Leaf.

He’s not a perimeter player. He’s not as physical as some would prefer, but that preference shouldn’t skew the work Nylander does.

Sure. We all see he’s got more than seems to be consistently displayed. Unknown motivational factors aside, we need to put to bed this canard that Nylander is a perimeter player once and for all.

 

[WTFMAN99]

It's August 2nd and it hasn't become obvious to me yet why this signing needed to occur...at all.

 

[socko]

No offense from the D outside of Morgan Rielly? Should Morgan get injured, no offense from the D at all.

 

[Stephen]

Yep. Also, the Leafs have a self interest in not inflating Bertuzzi's pp production if they'd like to extend him down the line

Leafs may be motivated to not inflate any of Nylander, Bertuzzi or Domi's PP numbers. Who knows which of the three we end up keeping.

 

[Stephen]

Another member beat me to the map of Nylander’s goals.

Nylander gains the zone as well any Leaf, and drives the net as well as any Leaf.

He’s not a perimeter player. He’s not as physical as some would prefer, but that preference shouldn’t skew the work Nylander does.

Sure. We all see he’s got more than seems to be consistently displayed. Unknown motivational factors aside, we need to put to bed this canard that Nylander is a perimeter player once and for all.

I don't think Nylander is a perimeter player so much as just being a player with an inconsistent motor and those things get mixed up.

For one, he's got the full suite of Peter Forsberg power-lite moves, like one-handing the puck, using the body to lean and cut/slice into defensive coverage. He does like circling the perimeter for soft spots and hangs on the perimeter instead of aggressively driving in a straight line attack like a Brayden Point (who is basically your small guy, all sacrifice hero at this point) so that does look like perimeter play at times... Nylander isn't a natural perimeter-half wall playmaker either in the style of a Kane, Kucherov or Panarin, who like to camp out on the outside and try to control, open up seams for across ice, or play give and go with the point and behind the net. Nylander hates a one on one puck battle in the corners.

Like you said, he's not physically assertive, doesn't play with any bite and sometimes seems to have motivational issues. But he's not exactly a perimeter player either.

 

[LeafChief]

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Above is a heat map of the goals Nylander scored last year, what the hell are you talking about?

Are you confused how you spell Bertuzzi also? I can see how N-O-S-E-K is tricky, if you change 5 letters and add another 3 you get Bertuzzi.

Crickets..