Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign Jarnkrok to a 4 year 2.1M AAV contract

[New Liskeard]

Its very unlikely Clifford and Anderson make the team. They will likely be sent down, adding 1.5 million in cap space to the already 765,000. Probably even send Simmons down as well. Technically thats just about enough to sign both Sandin and Engval with a 21 man roster which is likely the plan all along as in previous years. A trade is not necesarilly a foregone conclusion.

 

[aingefan]

Like the player, the versatility and playing up and down the lineup in all situations.
No issues with the term or AAV.
So many line permutations.
One not mentioned yet is WN-JT-CJ.
I think the FO would love to have one natural C on each one and at east one C-W.
Getting more cluttered up front, looking forward to see how it shakes out.

 

[CanHeDoIt99]

Its very unlikely Clifford and Anderson make the team. They will likely be sent down, adding 1.5 million in cap space to the already 765,000. Probably even send Simmons down as well. Technically thats just about enough to sign both Sandin and Engval with a 21 man roster which is likely the plan all along as in previous years. A trade is not necesarilly a foregone conclusion.

Just messing around on capfriendly they will need to move Holl, but not necessarily Kerfoot.

If they trade Holl they can sign engvall and sandin, run 7d and no extra forward and be compliant - sending down Simmonds/others so the fourth line us kubel and two other cheap guys (marlies I presume/malgin).

If they trade Kerfoot I assume it's to add another forward they like to add to the mix.

Assuming no kerfoot trade though I would run:

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Nylander
Steeves/J.Anderson/Malgin - Kerfoot - Jarnkrok
Engvall - Kampf - Kubel

Think it's time NR gets his extended shotgun the top 6.

Would be trying to see if Stastny will take a cheap deal trying to win, trade Kerfoot and try to sign a Milano or Heinen to go on the LW of that line with the excess cash.

 

[The Masters]

We are wasting our time with Clifford and Simmonds if they are still on the team.
With these new signings + young guys coming up, they need to create a real bottom 6 that can produce in playoffs.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Its very unlikely Clifford and Anderson make the team. They will likely be sent down, adding 1.5 million in cap space to the already 765,000. Probably even send Simmons down as well. Technically thats just about enough to sign both Sandin and Engval with a 21 man roster which is likely the plan all along as in previous years. A trade is not necesarilly a foregone conclusion.

I wouldn't agree with that. He was one of the most valuable guys on the Marlies last year, and plays the way that the Leafs want their guys to play.

He should be one of the favourites from the Marlies to win a job.

 

[Ciao]

I think Kerfoot will either be extended or traded.

If a Kerfoot extension is beyond their means, I expect the Leafs will trade him to clear cap space now.

Otherwise, they probably extend him now and look elsewhere for the cap space they need. Holl would likely make sense. He's a pending UFA as well.

 

[7even]

Nope.

How else is Sandin getting signed with $750k available

 

[The Masters]

at the very least I think Holl is gone.

 

[Frostitute]

How else is Sandin getting signed with $750k available

If we waive Clifford we have about 1.6m. With Lilly signed at 1.4 I can't imagine him exceeding that number.

I do imagine some minor trades forthcoming though. We are allowed to go 10% over the cap at the time being, so until we are getting close to that we can sign almost anyone.

 

[Tak7]

fourth liners shouldnt ever get NTC or NMC

I agree with you on NMCs, especially for aging players. However, with NTCs, I'm fine with them:

1 - They can be used as incentive to get guys to sign.​

2 - They can be used as incentive to get guys to sign for lower AAVs than they could get elsewhere.​

3 - If it's a 10-team NTC, those are pretty easily maneuvered around. 5 or 6 of those teams are likely in their division + Arizona & Winnipeg. That still leaves you two-thirds of the league to deal with .​

4 - With Simmonds, he can be fully buried with no issue so the NTC is essentially meaningless.​

 

[therealkoho]

Weird off-season for a guy who’s job is on the line. Have to think something bigger is coming?!?!

Here's hoping it looks something like this

Will + Holl + Robertson

Chykrun + Crouse + 2nd 2023 + 3rd 2024

 

[TMLeafer]

They probably know Kerfoot will be too expensive to re-sign, so having a replacement on the squad early isn't the worst idea.

 

[Tak7]

Its very unlikely Clifford and Anderson make the team. They will likely be sent down, adding 1.5 million in cap space to the already 765,000. Probably even send Simmons down as well. Technically thats just about enough to sign both Sandin and Engval with a 21 man roster which is likely the plan all along as in previous years. A trade is not necesarilly a foregone conclusion.

They have ~$765,000 in space with a 21-man roster already - if you're moving Clifford & Anderson down, you're presumably calling up Robertson to start the year. That only gives them ~$1.4m in total cap space.

There's no scenario where both Sandin & Engvall sign for under 1.4m.

Liljegren alone is $1.4m, and we know the Sandin camp wants more than the Liljegren deal, which is why I think there's more fire than smoke to the Sandin trade rumors.

 

[-DeMo-]

Capfriendly currently has 13 forwards listed on NHL roster so if you send Anderson and Clifford down and sign Engvall there's your twelve forwards, with about 750k in cap space depending on what he signs for. but once someone gets hurt then I believe they could fit Sandin in since they will be allowed to exceed the cap by whoever gets hurt. I believe anyways and how often do teams not have someone on the IR?

 

[123offtheglass]

Sure I don't like the 4 years or the fact that he's 31 but love the player and 2.1m is an underpayment.

Great deal.

In terms of salary cap, a deal is incoming.

 

[thewave]

Good signing. Maybe 3 years would be better but should be safe I think.

 

[81Leafs50]

great signing.

Kerfoot and Holl are gone.

 

[Aashir]

AAV is solid
Term a bit much

If he can produce at a 30-40 point pace on the third line and be the feisty player like kerfoot for a mil cheaper than I am all aboard

Solid signing

 

[Frostitute]

Here's hoping it looks something like this

Will + Holl + Robertson

Chykrun + Crouse + 2nd 2023 + 3rd 2024

Honestly, IMO, Billy Nye + Holl should be able to get that return without adding Nicky Rob. Maybe take out the 2nd or 3rd but I wouldnt trade him for those picks anyways. Kid has serious top 6 potential and you just KNOW if we give him away he'll turn into a 30/30 guy for sure.

 

[Ciao]

They probably know Kerfoot will be too expensive to re-sign, so having a replacement on the squad early isn't the worst idea.

Jarnkrok is Kerfoot's replacement.

Here I'm thinking of 2023-26, not necessarily this season. Next year, Kerfoot will look for Mikheyev's deal, which the Leafs can't afford. Signing Jarnkrok is a bit of forward planning on the Leafs' part -- by putting Kerfoot's replacement in place, knowing they won't be able to re-sign him.

I would bet on Kerfoot being traded in the meantime for a Connor-Brown-type return -- a second-round draft pick or something similar. That would clear enough cap space to sign Engvall and Sandin, and carry a full 23-man roster without having to screw around with LTIR. That would be refreshing.

If Sandin doesn't sign a deal similar to Liljegren's soon, then I wouldn't bet on him being around too long either. He's not indispensable, and I don't know that he's as good as he thinks he is. I would not be upset if he's gone.

 

[rojac]

AAV is solid
Term a bit much

If he can produce at a 30-40 point pace on the third line and be the feisty player like kerfoot for a mil cheaper than I am all aboard

Solid signing

Would you give a 27 year old an 8 year deal? It's the same thing -- a contract that ends when they're 34. And in this case, if Jarnkrok needs to be buried in the minors, roughly half of the cap hit disappears. Also, depending on the structure of the contract, Jarnkrok might be able to be bought for an even lesser cap hit..

 

[stickty111]

I don't mind giving term to these middle impact players. You otherwise don't get them and you're hunting in league mins. I rather term where it should get the AAV down so i'm fine with budging on term for the right players and Jarnkrok is one of them.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

If Kerfoot is not moved,
Kerfoot - Jarnkrok - Engvall as a third line that can score
Gaudette/Anderson - Kampf - NAK as a defence first 4th line

Could be ok

 

[Gabriel426]

Considering the Leafs currently have a 38yrs old Dman and for the past two years they had Spezza and Jumbo. Yet some here worry about someone who will be 31 when the season starts and be 34 when his contract ends on a 2.1mil cap hit.
Almost all teams in the league have a 34 or older making 2.1mil in the league.

 

[bossram]

I said on the first page, this likely foreshadows a Kerfoot trade. They're basically the same archetype of player. They'll use the extra cap space to add 1 or 2 of the remaining middle-six forwards on the UFA market.

I assume (and James Mirtle has been saying this for a while) that Holl is also gone. That opens up $5.5M in cap space. Benn will be on the roster as the 7D. I'll even leave Simmonds as the 13th forward for "leadership". Then start all of Clifford/Anderson/Gaudette/Robertson on the Marlies and the Leafs have $7.7M in cap space for Sandin, Engvall, and any other additions they can fit.

I'll pencil $2.4M x 2 or 3 years for Engvall (he has a pretty decent case in arbitration) and the Liljegren contract for Sandin. That then leaves them with almost $4M in cap space.

I think the Leafs could add 2 or 3 of ZAR, Milano, Heinen, Rodrigues, or Motte with that amount of space, depending on how long they hang around the market without a job. That would do a lot to bolster the bottom-9. And you could still waive Simmonds for another 900k in wiggle room.