SprDaVE
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Thanks for the response, and I can see where you're coming from. That said, it seems like we fundamentally disagree on some key points, which makes it hard to find common ground in this discussion. From my perspective, the arbitration process and the writing on the wall with Berube made it clear he wasn’t a fit in the system. Given those factors, I don’t think the signing was a bad one.
I also don’t believe we’re missing him at all, and I’m not sure there was a realistic scenario where we could have gotten more in return. To me, he was a 6th or 7th defenseman in Berube’s system, and we got pretty decent value for him in the trade. As for the contract, I just don’t see how it hurt the team in the end.
I do think they tried to trade Liljegren in the off season and could not. So, they signed him and got some assets and some cap space they needed, eventually.Liljegren still isn't very good on the San Jose Sharks... more opportunity, minimal offense. We needed him to pan out and be a good RHD for us with transition game prowess, maybe grow into PP2 duty, but that's not him.
Hakanpaa certainly has been a non factor and there's definitely opportunity cost that has been lost due to signing Liljegren and Hakanpaa. We could have gotten a better defenseman for the combined cost. However, if he ever gets healthy, he's basically a Lyubushkin level addition at the deadline for free. And those things cost picks. So it's been a waste of time but could still pan out.
I can't believe this guy somehow passed a physical. Was it done by Dr. Nick?terminate contract
not healthy
scammed us
Nah, the Leafs scammed themselves. there were so many reports that the guy had no knees left and they went until september to actually sign him?terminate contract
not healthy
scammed us
I still think it was dumb for us not to sign Klingberg and waive HankanpaaKlingberg has now played as many games this year as Hakanpaa lol.
You can’t waive an injured player lolI still think it was dumb for us not to sign Klingberg and waive Hankanpaa
Or Door # 3 and sign neither, who in a forward thinking setting and now in hindsight are/were moves of minimal chance to succeed. Can't hang our victories or losses on these two assets or the decision to explore them, because around the league, there's not a lot of comparison at that bottom of the barrel rummaging, because as a practice it's an outlier all the way around.I still think it was dumb for us not to sign Klingberg and waive Hankanpaa
Leafs flexing their financial might by signing a player who is/was done in order to gain favour with the agent.
Who else does JH's agent represent? His handout may have just been a table setter....
Stanley Cup Hero Joel Kiviranta come on down!!
Joel Armia in the summer would be niceStanley Cup Hero Joel Kiviranta come on down!!