Don't mind this at all. Compared to other frightening deals yesterday, this seemed like a nice piece of business.
There was a time when many HFBoardsters would have traded the farm to acquire OEL.
Now that he's a Leaf he sucks.
Oh my god.
Just chill out people.
Maybe a half a decade ago....yes....
Tre went with older players hoping they can give us a few more good years.
Team got older and Im not sure it would of been the direction I would of went but then again I was never a big Tre fan as I just dont think he is that great of a GM. He gets too tunnel vision for my liking.
But Lets Go Leafs.....Im too old to lose sleep over it. Im excited for the year to start.
I think that will be exactly how the early camp pairings shake out, but that being said Benoit and McCabe have very strong chemistry so if Liljegren falters at all I could see Benoit coming in and Liljegren taking Hakanpaa's spot.Rielly - Tanev
McCabe - Liljegren
OEL - Hakanpaa
OEL with Hakanpaa is a solid 3rd pairing.
Our D looks significantly better going into next season than it did even after the deadline last year. I understand the term concerns but I think people are sleeping on how much of an upgrade Tanev is at least over the next few years. Like, he's a legitimate high minutes impact player and will provide us a lot more than 4.5 million in value over the short term. And even if he declines significantly by years 5/6 and we can't LTIR him, the cap might conceivably be 12-15 million dollars higher by then.Tre built a very good defensive group in Calgary. I trust his judgement on that end. He’s done what he can so far, I think it’s not the final state he envisions but it’s a big step up
Tre built a very good defensive group in Calgary. I trust his judgement on that end. He’s done what he can so far, I think it’s not the final state he envisions but it’s a big step up
There was a time when many HFBoardsters would have traded the farm to acquire OEL.
Now that he's a Leaf he sucks.
Oh my god.
Just chill out people.
54 weeks ago, OEL was involved in one of the league's most expensive ever buyouts due to being a gas can in Vancouver.
Only really stabilized things in a defensive-heavy system in Florida playing bottom pair minutes with a really solid partner.
The Leafs blueline, and overall team defense, is considerably weaker than Floridas.
I'm not a fan of this contract at all - you could have packaged the OEL money with the Hakanpaa money and taken a run at a $5.5M Pesce.
Really seems like the Leafs were over-seduced by his offensive potential on the powerplay.
Our D looks significantly better going into next season than it did even after the deadline last year. I understand the term concerns but I think people are sleeping on how much of an upgrade Tanev is at least over the next few years. Like, he's a legitimate high minutes impact player and will provide us a lot more than 4.5 million in value over the short term. And even if he declines significantly by years 5/6 and we can't LTIR him, the cap might conceivably be 12-15 million dollars higher by then.
I also think a big part of how this D-corps shapes up is if Berube can unlock Liljegren's game because while Keefe never could, there's still potential there.
Not really- pretty much baselineNow, he is a gamble, he had a nice season last year but was very sheltered.
54 weeks ago, OEL was involved in one of the league's most expensive ever buyouts due to being a gas can in Vancouver.
Only really stabilized things in a defensive-heavy system in Florida playing bottom pair minutes with a really solid partner.
The Leafs blueline, and overall team defense, is considerably weaker than Floridas.
I'm not a fan of this contract at all - you could have packaged the OEL money with the Hakanpaa money and taken a run at a $5.5M Pesce.
Really seems like the Leafs were over-seduced by his offensive potential on the powerplay.
By all accounts Tre was in on a lot of guys kicking tires. It didn't seem like Pesce wanted to sign here in Canada. So it's plausible that OEL was more of another route he went.
Seems like that mid $3 range was market value for bottom pairing d-men like him.... so the AAV isn't out of line, the term is just a bit long.
There's risk. I'm hopeful he can provide solid 5 on 5 mins, boosting puck movement, and get the Leafs' PP in better shape.
It seems rich to have him as bottom pairing when we signed another for $1.5 million and had one for $1.35 million as well.
Hoping he exceeds the bottom pairing for the price tag.
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Team got older and Im not sure it would of been the direction I would of went but then again I was never a big Tre fan as I just dont think he is that great of a GM. ...
Pesce would of been great.
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I would of given the Habs a 4th in 2026 (if we have it ) for Kovacevic .....
Forsling and Montour came out of nowhere to be fair and some say Montour's on his way down again.54 weeks ago, OEL was involved in one of the league's most expensive ever buyouts due to being a gas can in Vancouver.
Only really stabilized things in a defensive-heavy system in Florida playing bottom pair minutes with a really solid partner.
The Leafs blueline, and overall team defense, is considerably weaker than Floridas.
I'm not a fan of this contract at all - you could have packaged the OEL money with the Hakanpaa money and taken a run at a $5.5M Pesce.
Really seems like the Leafs were over-seduced by his offensive potential on the powerplay.
Over 82 games, OEL has averaged at least 30+ points even in his last few "down" years.
If he can provide that offense while being decent defensively, that's well worth the price tag ... the term is the bigger risk
Really seems like the Leafs were over-seduced by his offensive potential on the powerplay.
I want to see what our team defense looks like under a coach who demands accountability and a strong forecheck.
Apparently he didn't wanna play anywhere in Canada.If he even wanted to play in Toronto. A lot of players don’t want to.
There was a time when we wanted and valued players with Stanley Cup experience. I think the experience gained having gone through a tough Stanley Cup run and winning in a tough 7-game final series is invaluable to the Leafs. OEL wasn't a marginal player who was in and out of the lineup, he was an important contributor to winning the Cup. He had a TOI of 15:27 in 24 playoff games.considering our powerplay sucked complete monkey in the playoffs. being overseduced by that doesn't seem like a bad thing to me.
this is my thing too. I feel. we're looking at people as parts - and not as a whole and not with the coach in mind. (which is fair. people are allowed to not like the deal etc). but i feel too - being older isn't a bad thing. I never thought it was. as much as it is a "young man's game." and health etc plays a part, i think when it comes to the playoffs, maturity etc can play a part. OEL just won a cup now, and so that mentality can help the leafs. (I feel).
There was a time when we wanted and valued players with Stanley Cup experience. I think the experience gained having gone through a tough Stanley Cup run and winning in a tough 7-game final series is invaluable to the Leafs. OEL wasn't a marginal player who was in and out of the lineup, he was an important contributor to winning the Cup. He had a TOI of 15:27 in 24 playoff games.
He wasn't on PP1.30 points for someone who gets PP time does not scream good to me.