GDT: Leafs @ Sens - 7pm - TSN

[Legion34]

Why don't you do that and get back to me on it?

The AHL is a developmental league with limits on how many players with more than 260 NHL, AHL and European professional games experience can play at once.

There is no upper age limit, and most teams carry a small core of older players, but most of the playing time goes to players about 26 years old or younger. That's the purpose of the league.

Is this true? I have never heard that ever. Once you reach a certain number of NHL games you get put in a pot and only X number can play?

That’s kind of crazy really

 

[crump]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838755448331141508

This is remarkably accurate to my eye test.

 

[Racer88]

Hockey question. What exactly do these pros do to play such terrible hockey in preason. Do they slow it down ? Or stop skating and pass too early...its like they all suck.

The leafs “pro’s “ just pretend it’s the playoffs

 

[notbias]

Berube is probably thing to himself right now……what the hell did I get myself into

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838776507474341921

Looks like he is thinking that anyone thinking these games are important doesn't know a thing.

 

[Racer88]

Looks like he is thinking that anyone thinking these games are important doesn't know a thing.

Aren’t those games supposed to be important to the prospects hoping to secure a spot?

 

[notbias]

Aren’t those games supposed to be important to the prospects hoping to secure a spot?

They are important for development and trying to secure a spot, but winning is unimportant.

I am sure they are more focused on how they play positionally and decision making wise instead of the outcome.

Robertson for example put up zero points but was hard on the puck, I thought he made better decisions that weren't a rushed shot, and looked positionally more comfortable than in the past.

That's far more important to predicting team success than the points someone put up in these single games, Pacioretty is not scoring 164 goals.

 

[Racer88]

They are important for development and trying to secure a spot, but winning is unimportant.

I am sure they are more focused on how they play positionally and decision making wise instead of the outcome.

Robertson for example put up zero points but was hard on the puck, I thought he made better decisions that weren't a rushed shot, and looked positionally more comfortable than in the past.

That's far more important to predicting team success than the points someone put up in these single games, Pacioretty is not scoring 164 goals.

So your previous statement was inaccurate

 

[Torontonian]

After two games, don't think there's going to be any surprise players making the team this year. Grebenkin has shown flashes of what he can be in the NHL, he needs to polish his defensive side of his game in the AHL for the year.

Cowan hasn't been bad by any means, hustles and plays hard on the wall etc, but I just think when it comes down to the final roster he's not beating anyone out (although, instead of sending him directly to JR, I'd keep him up with the team for awhile, let him play his 8 games, practice with the team etc until it's world JRs time).

A.Nylander is what he is, tweener AHL/NHLER that isn't good enough to be ahead of the likes of Robertson,Patoreitty, Holmberg etc.

 

[notbias]

So your previous statement was inaccurate

No, the game as a whole is unimportant as I said.

How well a prospect produces is also unimportant.

So exactly what I said about the games being unimportant is true.

You chimed in about prospects and I agreed, I just pointed out it likely has very little to do with how many goals a prospect gets and they are likely isolating instances to see if they can win puck battles, have defensive awareness, make the right decisions, etc.

 

[Ciao]

Is this true? I have never heard that ever. Once you reach a certain number of NHL games you get put in a pot and only X number can play?

That’s kind of crazy really

No roster limits. AHL teams can carry as many players as they like. Some are on the way up. Some are rehabbing. Some are on the way down, and a small number -- like Kyle Clifford, Joe Blindisi and Logan Shaw on the Marlies -- are grizzled vets there to give leadership on and off the ice. Most teams choose those guys very carefully.

The limit is on playing time. In every game, an AHL team can't play more than five players with more than 260 games of pro experience. "Pro" means NHL, AHL, KHL and most upper level European leagues.

This is why players do age-out of the AHL, and many of the better ones go to Europe to finish their professional careers.

Not only that, but AHL pay is generally low -- there are exceptions -- and if you're not on the way up or a well-paid tenured vet it really isn't where you want to be.

The explicit mandate of the AHL is a developmental league.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

I feel bad for Mattinen. He is obviously not an NHL player and most likely never will be...but I think he's probably better than this game. This was his first preseason game of any pro North American league and I think that should be taken into consideration.

Having said that, that mistake with a few minutes left in the game on the PP was one of the most boneheaded any dman can make. A lackadaisacal backpass to the middle of the ice, along the ice, in your own zone? I tell my 10 yr old nephew not to do that EVER. It shows a lack of hockey IQ.

Really disappointed in Cowan these past two games. Grebenkin looked like the inexperienced forward he is. Best players were McMann, Kampf, and the goalies. Once again, the team looked much much slower than Ottawa.

 

[notbias]

I feel bad for Mattinen. He is obviously not an NHL player and most likely never will be...but I think he's probably better than this game. This was his first preseason game of any pro North American league and I think that should be taken into consideration.

I feel bad for Hunter, he is his last hope of looking even remotely competent.

 

[Legion34]

No roster limits. AHL teams can carry as many players as they like. Some are on the way up. Some are rehabbing. Some are on the way down, and a small number -- like Kyle Clifford, Joe Blindisi and Logan Shaw on the Marlies -- are grizzled vets there to give leadership on and off the ice. Most teams choose those guys very carefully.

The limit is on playing time. In every game, an AHL team can't play more than five players with more than 260 games of pro experience. "Pro" means NHL, AHL, KHL and most upper level European leagues.

This is why players do age-out of the AHL, and many of the better ones go to Europe to finish their professional careers.

Not only that, but AHL pay is generally low -- there are exceptions -- and if you're not on the way up or a well-paid tenured vet it really isn't where you want to be.

The explicit mandate of the AHL is a developmental league.

Interesting. I honestly had no idea. That’s fascinating.

Thanks!

 

[fahad203]

This is remarkably accurate to my eye test.

I was like that was pretty bad for Nylander....... Then it hit me, it's the other Nylander

 

[Suntouchable13]

I was like that was pretty bad for Nylander....... Then it hit me, it's the other Nylander

I loved it when people were penciling him on the 2nd line or whatever. He sucks, full stop. Not an NHL player

 

[TMLeafer]

I thought goaltenders were the only positives in this one. And Holmberg.

 

[JL17]

Cowan hasn’t been bad and hasn’t stand out to this stage. Remember also he’s played a year and a half in the OHL. He earned more the 5 mins a game in the second half of his 16 year old year. Plenty of kids have been drafted rolled into their first NHL camp and caught everyone’s attention. But struggled or didn’t produce the same in the second one. At this stage give him a couple more games maybe play he where you’d expect if he made the team and if doesn’t produce then it’s ok if he goes back down. Or keep him up till late October give him a few NHL games and see what happens.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I feel bad for Hunter, he is his last hope of looking even remotely competent.

Yeah, save for that #16 guy and the #1 goalie... perhaps even Liljegren

Truth be told, I'm not even his biggest fan either, but the way you chapped-ass KD boys go after him is pathetic at this point.

 

[notbias]

Yeah, save for that #16 guy and the #1 goalie... perhaps even Liljegren

Truth be told, I'm not even his biggest fan either, but the way you chapped-ass KD boys go after him is pathetic at this point.

Mind translating to English?

I'll say that Dubas' drafting strategy was terrible if it turns out to be, but he's already surpassed whatever Hunter and Lou tried to do.

 

[Ciao]

I feel bad for Mattinen. He is obviously not an NHL player and most likely never will be...but I think he's probably better than this game. This was his first preseason game of any pro North American league and I think that should be taken into consideration.

Mattinen will be fine.

He's had success in Europe and might go back there if the NHL thing doework out.

In the meantime, his one-year NHL contract pays him $250,000 in the AHL -- which is not too bad for a minor league salary -- and as a DEL defenceman of the year he has a good future in hockey in Europe.

 

[Racer88]

I loved it when people were penciling him on the 2nd line or whatever. He sucks, full stop. Not an NHL player

I’m not sure I saw any NHL players on that roster last night except for the goalies.
It was a total disappointment. For guys fighting for a job it was meh