GDT: Leafs @ Sens - 7pm - TSN

[Ciao]

Is this true? I have never heard that ever. Once you reach a certain number of NHL games you get put in a pot and only X number can play?

That’s kind of crazy really

No roster limits. AHL teams can carry as many players as they like. Some are on the way up. Some are rehabbing. Some are on the way down, and a small number -- like Kyle Clifford, Joe Blindisi and Logan Shaw on the Marlies -- are grizzled vets there to give leadership on and off the ice. Most teams choose those guys very carefully.

The limit is on playing time. In every game, an AHL team can't play more than five players with more than 260 games of pro experience. "Pro" means NHL, AHL, KHL and most upper level European leagues.

This is why players do age-out of the AHL, and many of the better ones go to Europe to finish their professional careers.

Not only that, but AHL pay is generally low -- there are exceptions -- and if you're not on the way up or a well-paid tenured vet it really isn't where you want to be.

The explicit mandate of the AHL is a developmental league.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

I feel bad for Mattinen. He is obviously not an NHL player and most likely never will be...but I think he's probably better than this game. This was his first preseason game of any pro North American league and I think that should be taken into consideration.

Having said that, that mistake with a few minutes left in the game on the PP was one of the most boneheaded any dman can make. A lackadaisacal backpass to the middle of the ice, along the ice, in your own zone? I tell my 10 yr old nephew not to do that EVER. It shows a lack of hockey IQ.

Really disappointed in Cowan these past two games. Grebenkin looked like the inexperienced forward he is. Best players were McMann, Kampf, and the goalies. Once again, the team looked much much slower than Ottawa.

 

[notbias]

I feel bad for Mattinen. He is obviously not an NHL player and most likely never will be...but I think he's probably better than this game. This was his first preseason game of any pro North American league and I think that should be taken into consideration.

I feel bad for Hunter, he is his last hope of looking even remotely competent.

 

[Legion34]

No roster limits. AHL teams can carry as many players as they like. Some are on the way up. Some are rehabbing. Some are on the way down, and a small number -- like Kyle Clifford, Joe Blindisi and Logan Shaw on the Marlies -- are grizzled vets there to give leadership on and off the ice. Most teams choose those guys very carefully.

The limit is on playing time. In every game, an AHL team can't play more than five players with more than 260 games of pro experience. "Pro" means NHL, AHL, KHL and most upper level European leagues.

This is why players do age-out of the AHL, and many of the better ones go to Europe to finish their professional careers.

Not only that, but AHL pay is generally low -- there are exceptions -- and if you're not on the way up or a well-paid tenured vet it really isn't where you want to be.

The explicit mandate of the AHL is a developmental league.

Interesting. I honestly had no idea. That’s fascinating.

Thanks!

 

[fahad203]

This is remarkably accurate to my eye test.

I was like that was pretty bad for Nylander....... Then it hit me, it's the other Nylander

 

[Suntouchable13]

I was like that was pretty bad for Nylander....... Then it hit me, it's the other Nylander

I loved it when people were penciling him on the 2nd line or whatever. He sucks, full stop. Not an NHL player

 

[TMLeafer]

I thought goaltenders were the only positives in this one. And Holmberg.

 

[JL17]

Cowan hasn’t been bad and hasn’t stand out to this stage. Remember also he’s played a year and a half in the OHL. He earned more the 5 mins a game in the second half of his 16 year old year. Plenty of kids have been drafted rolled into their first NHL camp and caught everyone’s attention. But struggled or didn’t produce the same in the second one. At this stage give him a couple more games maybe play he where you’d expect if he made the team and if doesn’t produce then it’s ok if he goes back down. Or keep him up till late October give him a few NHL games and see what happens.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I feel bad for Hunter, he is his last hope of looking even remotely competent.

Yeah, save for that #16 guy and the #1 goalie... perhaps even Liljegren

Truth be told, I'm not even his biggest fan either, but the way you chapped-ass KD boys go after him is pathetic at this point.

 

[notbias]

Yeah, save for that #16 guy and the #1 goalie... perhaps even Liljegren

Truth be told, I'm not even his biggest fan either, but the way you chapped-ass KD boys go after him is pathetic at this point.

Mind translating to English?

I'll say that Dubas' drafting strategy was terrible if it turns out to be, but he's already surpassed whatever Hunter and Lou tried to do.

 

[Ciao]

I feel bad for Mattinen. He is obviously not an NHL player and most likely never will be...but I think he's probably better than this game. This was his first preseason game of any pro North American league and I think that should be taken into consideration.

Mattinen will be fine.

He's had success in Europe and might go back there if the NHL thing doesn't work out.

In the meantime, his one-year NHL contract pays him $250,000 in the AHL -- which is not too bad for a minor league salary -- and as a DEL defenceman of the year he has a good future in hockey in Europe.

 

[Racer88]

I loved it when people were penciling him on the 2nd line or whatever. He sucks, full stop. Not an NHL player

I’m not sure I saw any NHL players on that roster last night except for the goalies.
It was a total disappointment. For guys fighting for a job it was meh

 

[notbias]

I’m not sure I saw any NHL players on that roster last night except for the goalies.
It was a total disappointment. For guys fighting for a job it was meh

Did you not watch?

Holmberg, Robertson, McMann, and Knies were all good and are all NHLers.

Steeves and Rifai were also good and might be first call ups.

 

[Mess]

I thought goaltenders were the only positives in this one. And Holmberg.

Pontus Holmberg showed a real spine as he drops the gloves. ​

Sends a message to the new coach Berube who likes a physical heavy style game and play.

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

Who else had P. Myers on their number one Leaf list going into last night's game..?

For a player I havent seen much of, he was the only Leaf I had as consistently making the right play all over the ice last night. Great showing for him!

 

[Enga Olly]

Too old for the AHL? Jesus, some people say the dumbest crap here. Check the average of teams in the AHL then think again.




Ffs, do HFboards members even listen to things before commenting on them? You clearly didn't.

She did not say it was time to panic, she said that in this market many people will say that after two losses. She then agreed with him that it is et peeve of mine when

Too old for the AHL? Jesus, some people say the dumbest crap here. Check the average of teams in the AHL then think again.




Ffs, do HFboards members even listen to things before commenting on them? You clearly didn't.

She did not say it was time to panic, she said that in this market many people will say that after two losses. She then agreed with him that it is just the preseason.

I did hear that and that's what I'm objecting to, I may not have been clear on that.

I resent any reporter trying to characterize "this market" and what we are feeling/fearing/ and for players/coaches or management to respond to that. There are far too many members in Leaf Nation to have a consolidating opinion on anything but the most obvious. No one is in panic mode, sure it's Leaf Nation and there's bound to be an idiot or 2 who are "panicked" but overall we really have perspective on pre-season. Questions like this are accumulative and have caused our organization to be too reactionary, and I effen hate it. We deserve better.

 

[Stephen]

That wasn’t an anti-dump and chase thing, you should be good at every breakout and rotate through all of them unless you’re facing a specifically exploitable defense at one of them. My point about the fast entry off the fake drop pass is that it makes the drop pass more effective when you alternate fakes and real ones, dump and chase is telegraphed before they have an opportunity to bite on a fake drop.

Yeah I think we probably want the same thing. A skilled dynamic team that can do it with skill, deception, execution and lay the body when required.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Who else had P. Myers on their number one Leaf list going into last night's game..?

For a player I havent seen much of, he was the only Leaf I had as consistently making the right play all over the ice last night. Great showing for him!

Yeah, I agree that he was pretty good. He's not flashy though. I think his simple game can go unnoticed.

 

[grapes55]

Was at the game last night, I liked Knies, Holmberg, Robertson and Mcmann the most. Timmins played solid as well and his passing really stood out. Goaltenders were both good I thought. No one else really stood out, unfortunately Mattinen looked poor. I really think Holmberg should have a spot on that 4th line I'm really liking his game

 

[rumman]

Who else had P. Myers on their number one Leaf list going into last night's game..?

For a player I havent seen much of, he was the only Leaf I had as consistently making the right play all over the ice last night. Great showing for him!

Looked good to me, I love physical stay at home Dmen…….

Yeah, I agree that he was pretty good. He's not flashy though. I think his simple game can go unnoticed.

I’m sure it wasn’t unnoticed by Berube, at least I hope not…….

 

[leafers]

Was at the game last night, I liked Knies, Holmberg, Robertson and Mcmann the most. Timmins played solid as well and his passing really stood out. Goaltenders were both good I thought. No one else really stood out, unfortunately Mattinen looked poor. I really think Holmberg should have a spot on that 4th line I'm really liking his game

Imo Holmberg should be the number 3 center on this team. Rather have him there than Kämpf or Tavares.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

I know I've got my finger over the panic button.

They just lost the first two games in a row under Berube. Their performance has been lacklustre, inconsistent, and just plain old not good enough. Anyone trying to impress has only magnified how much they stink instead.

On the other hand Nylander had a whopping three whole hits last night.

I guess Berube's influence is wearing off on him. Maybe there's hope for him after all. Oh wait... that was ALEX Nylander... lol my bad.

I knew it couldn't possibly have been William.

Anyone hoping the Leafs would show some get up and go after their pathetic performance the other night was sorely mistaken. A pathetic team lost to an even more pathetic team. Or maybe it was the other way around.

I got anxiety just watching these bumbling boobs already.

 

[egd27]

They are part of the problem and why us Leafs fans have suffered over the years.

Good to know. I thought the suffering was due to the organization continually failing to meet expectations.

 

[egd27]

Cowan hasn't been bad by any means, hustles and plays hard on the wall etc, but I just think when it comes down to the final roster he's not beating anyone out (although, instead of sending him directly to JR, I'd keep him up with the team for awhile, let him play his 8 games, practice with the team etc until it's world JRs time).

Challenge with this is you would have to risk losing someone to waivers to get him his 8 games.

 

[Confucius]

Hockey question. What exactly do these pros do to play such terrible hockey in preason. Do they slow it down ? Or stop skating and pass too early...its like they all suck.

They are resting, playing not to get hurt. Mathews must have tried to hard already.