Prospect Info: Leafs Prospect Question
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Kral has come and gone. Now with Pitt.
Loponen has come and gone. Not sure where.
You can still see teams depth chart and reserve list on CapFriendly.
Loponen has come and gone. Not sure where.
You can still see teams depth chart and reserve list on CapFriendly.
Outside of Cowan, Minten, Grebyonkin and Holinka at forward and Danford and Webber on D I don’t see any players with an NHL future. However there are a couple of goaltenders namely Hildeby and Akhtyamov who could play NHL minutes.
I’m not sold on Niemela. He needs to take a big step this season.
I’m not sold on Niemela. He needs to take a big step this season.
Niemela definitely isn't our 4th best prospect. He is a 3rd pairing if he even makes it to the bigs. Danforth will be far better.
Niemela is small and an average skater. Basically a version of Sandin who is more defensively aware but without a big shot. I don’t see him as being more than a third pairing guy if he gains some strength.
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Whether or not Lisowsky should be on the list is a question mark. As you can see in a number of other threads, the Leafs declined to sign him and he went into the draft again. He as unclaimed, however, and the Leafs invited him to the development camp where he seems to have performed well. They may offer him an AHL contract but as of now he isn’t Leaf’s property.
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The same thing as with Sandin. People recognizing that he just isn’t fast or big enough to be an effective D man in the NHL. He could still get stronger and improve his skating but in all likelihood he’s destined to be a 7th D.
Think Nathan Dempsey.
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A developmental year in the AHL collided with many fan's expectations, plus a few people in the media started pegging him as a max 3rd pair upside. New league, new coach and team mates so growing pains were going to happen. By the numbers he had a solid year. If he worked hard over the summer and has learned anything at all he could definitely show something more. Its like Tverberg being 1 year out of college. A pro season under their belts and a summer to train and this year becomes more the measuring stick. Gruden is an experienced NHL coach but he has never coached in the AHL and hadn't played in the A in over 20 years. All 3 should do better this year and all 3 do have something more to prove.
I was never incredibly high on the guy but its not like he has been coasting.
The problem is that Niemela played in the Liiga in Finland for 3 years before joining the Marlies and his development curve is rather flat. I think 3rd pair upside is being generous.
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On the other hand you might want to raise Noah Chadwick a bit. Apparently he has been invited the Team Canada juniors group for the summer showcase.
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sondre olden has turned into kind of a monster in the swiss league, had a 2PPG playoff run a couple of years ago!
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I'm just saying. There's never a time where there isn't some guy being hyped up as a surefire prospect and they pretty much all never do anything. How many tiny men make it in the league, and then think about how talented those players are. But surely Ty Voit is the one.
Well with wes clarke gone maybe will get a guy who can spot talent skill with nhl size which is about 6'3 and above in the first rnd.
Because when you always draft small player in the first rnd odds are you are creating a small mhl team that will get pushed around
Because when you always draft small player in the first rnd odds are you are creating a small mhl team that will get pushed around
Bring back Hunter!
Last 5 1st overall picks
Celebrini - 6'0
Bedard - 5'10
Slafkovsky - 6'3
Power - 6'6
Lafreinere - 6'1
Height is the most important attribute.
Can probably just sort them by height, shortest first, and just rank them that way.
Our first picks under Wes were 5'11, 6'1, and 6'2, wouldn't call that small, that comes out to basically the NHL average.
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Every Toronto Maple Leafs pick from 2024 NHL Draft
With their first pick, the Toronto Maple Leafs chose to bolster their blue line with one of the best defensive defencemen in the 2024 NHL Draft.
First Round
31: Ben Danford, D, Oshawa GeneralsAge: 18
Hand: Right
Height: Six-foot-one
Weight: 194 pounds
Hometown: Madoc, Ont.
2023-24 stats: 1 goal, 32 assists in 64 games; 4 goals, 6 assists in 21 playoff games
Fourth Round
120: Victor Johansson, D, Leksands IF (SHL)Age: 18
Hand: Left
Height: Six-foot-one
Weight:
Hometown: Linkoping, Sweden
2023-24 stats: 2 goals, 6 assists in 34 games; 0 goals, 1 assist in 5 playoff games
Fifth Round
151: Miroslav Holinka, C, Trinec Ocelari (Czechia)Age: 18
Hand: Right
Height: Six-foot-one
Weight: 187 pounds
Hometown: Kromeriz, Czechia
2023-24 stats: 20 goals, 21 assists in 29 games with U20 team; 6 goals, 8 assists in 15 playoff games with U20 team
152: Alexander Plesovskikh, F, Mamonty Yugry (MHL)
Age: 17
Hand: Right
Height: Six-foot-two
Weight: 174 pounds
Hometown: Tyumen, Russia
2023-24 stats: 8 goals, 9 assists in 33 games; 0 goals, 1 assist in 6 playoff games
157: Timofei Obvintsev, G, CSKA (MHL)
Age: 19
Hand: Right
Height: Six-foot-three
Weight: 179 pounds
Hometown: Yekaterinburg, Russia
2023-24 stats: 2.96 GAA, .921 save percentage in 16 games; 3.07 GAA, .908 save percentage in 2 playoff games
Seventh Round
200: Matt Lahey, D, Nanaimo Clippers (BCHL)Age: 17
Hand: Left
Height: Six-foot-five
Weight: 203 pounds
Hometown: Victoria, B.C.
2023-24 stats: 2 goals, 17 points in 54 games; 0 goals, 0 assists in 5 playoff games
216: Sam McCue, F, Owen Sound Attack (OHL)
Age: 18
Hand: Left
Height: Six-foot-two
Weight: 187 pounds
Hometown: Sudbury, Ont.
2023-24 stats: 12 goals, 9 assists in 34 games; 0 goals, 1 assist in 4 playoff games
216: Nathan Mayes, D, Spokane Chiefs (WHL)
Age: 18
Hand: Left
Height: Six-foot-three
Weight: 170 pounds
Hometown: Salmon Arm, B.C.
2023-24 stats: 1 goal, 15 assists in 68 games; 0 goals, 0 assists in 4 playoff games
Guys that I'm confident will be full time NHL contributors at some point.
1. Eastan Cowan
2. Nikita Grebyonkin
3. Ben Danford
4. Miroslav Holinka
5. Fraser Minten
Guys that I am sneakily confident will wind up being NHL contributors...
Ryan Tverberg (Center, 5'11, 190lbs): In his first campaign with the Marlies he had 32 points in 46 games. If he can play 65'ish games with the Marlies this year I'm looking for a jump to 55-60 points. I won't be shocked if he's a staple in the bottom 6 by 24-25 years old if he can continue to get stronger and round out his game. Similar trajectory to Pontus Holmberg IMO, with higher upside as a scorer.
Jacob Quillan (Center / Right Wing, 6'0, 200lbs): Really high compete level. Position versatility and an NHL body. Still only 22 years old. I suspect he'll wind up being what we hoped Alex Steeves would be. A pickup from the college ranks that winds up being a bottom 6 steal. Patience is in order though. I'm expecting 2 full years of development with the Marlies before he's ready to make the jump at 24-25 years old.
Cade Webber (Defense, 6'7, 210lbs): With a body like his and the desire to block shots and do the dirty work in front of the net, I could see a late bloomer who plays 3rd pairing minutes and kills penalties. I could also see a matchup type #7 D-man that rotates in and out of the lineup for a while.
1. Eastan Cowan
2. Nikita Grebyonkin
3. Ben Danford
4. Miroslav Holinka
5. Fraser Minten
Guys that I am sneakily confident will wind up being NHL contributors...
Ryan Tverberg (Center, 5'11, 190lbs): In his first campaign with the Marlies he had 32 points in 46 games. If he can play 65'ish games with the Marlies this year I'm looking for a jump to 55-60 points. I won't be shocked if he's a staple in the bottom 6 by 24-25 years old if he can continue to get stronger and round out his game. Similar trajectory to Pontus Holmberg IMO, with higher upside as a scorer.
Jacob Quillan (Center / Right Wing, 6'0, 200lbs): Really high compete level. Position versatility and an NHL body. Still only 22 years old. I suspect he'll wind up being what we hoped Alex Steeves would be. A pickup from the college ranks that winds up being a bottom 6 steal. Patience is in order though. I'm expecting 2 full years of development with the Marlies before he's ready to make the jump at 24-25 years old.
Cade Webber (Defense, 6'7, 210lbs): With a body like his and the desire to block shots and do the dirty work in front of the net, I could see a late bloomer who plays 3rd pairing minutes and kills penalties. I could also see a matchup type #7 D-man that rotates in and out of the lineup for a while.
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Clarke made 16 picks in his role with the Leafs and 13 of them are 6'1 or bigger. What are you talking about?
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I would probably have Hildeby on that list somewhere.
Cowan
HIldeby
Minten
Danford
Webber
I love big hulking defensemen.
So does Treliving obviously. Hunter was always looking for the next Chara too. I had high hopes for a few of those guys he drafted.
It really sucked when Dubas traded and buried them all for guys like Hollowell instead.
So I'm happy to see a couple big defensemen in the system again. it's a nice change of pace from the Dubas directive of targeting skilled little guys. There's almost no chance Niemela makes this team now.
He probably won't even be in the system next summer.
Cowan
HIldeby
Minten
Danford
Webber
I love big hulking defensemen.
So does Treliving obviously. Hunter was always looking for the next Chara too. I had high hopes for a few of those guys he drafted.
It really sucked when Dubas traded and buried them all for guys like Hollowell instead.
So I'm happy to see a couple big defensemen in the system again. it's a nice change of pace from the Dubas directive of targeting skilled little guys. There's almost no chance Niemela makes this team now.
He probably won't even be in the system next summer.
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That's a reallly bleak list.
I would suspect that maybe 3 or 4 of those guys become full time NHLers?
The prospect pipeline is basically on drip feed at the moment, which is tough for an organization desperately in need of cheap cost controlled talent.
I would suspect that maybe 3 or 4 of those guys become full time NHLers?
The prospect pipeline is basically on drip feed at the moment, which is tough for an organization desperately in need of cheap cost controlled talent.
