Post-Game Talk: Leafs of Olde get stomped by bottom feeder : 6-2 CLB

[Mr_Fun]

I'm more worried about games where we've come to play for a couple of periods, and then decide to go all nonchalant in the 3rd and blow it. To me, that's the bigger issue to sort out. YMMV

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

I predicted a win because I thought they'd be on their P's and Q's this early in the season but I forgot that their most important players are the ones that buy in the least.

 

[647Hockey]

Cmon Berube! Youre supposed to be a no nonsense coach!

The saviour where Babs and Keefe failed.

lol

 

[ULF_55]

I'm okay with one stinker every 7.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I'm okay with one stinker every 7.

Reasonable people are.

 

[arso40]

I predicted a win because I thought they'd be on their P's and Q's this early in the season but I forgot that their most important players are the ones that buy in the least.

They have to not be denied every night if we want to contend

 

[BlueAzN]

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If your goalie let beach ball goes in, struggling on every shot and every shot locking like a mountain to climb... It's pretty hsrd mentally for the player in front.
I said it a dont know how many time last few yewrs.

Stolarz this season was great and giving up confidence in the team in front and the guy was working hard for him and protected him pretty well.

For me when leafs saw goal #2,3, the goal review, 4th goal... They knew the way hildwby was playing than they have 0 chance to come back

Exactly, that's the whole point. You get it and understand hockey. Hildeby sucks, I knew it the day he played with the Marlies. He will never belong on an NHL squad. We can do better with our 3rd string goatlender.

Yes, the young goalie who put up .913 sv% in 41 games as a rookie on a frankly not very good Marlies team last year is not an AHL goaltender. Cool opinion but I think I’m justified in saying it renders all of your posting on this subject worthless

If you put up .913% in the AHL, trust me you are not AHL ready. You clearly don't get it. I'd bet a decent amount of money that with a .913, that doesn't even put him in the top 15 of the AHL. He straight up SUCKS. I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

Hell just watch the game yesterday and it's pretty clear he has no business being a semi-pro. He needs to go sell insurance or get a college degree. No future in this brutal business.

 

[BlueAzN]

Thoughts: You're a troll. But at least your Mom's basement has internet.

Also...23? Dominik Hasek, Tim Thomas and Johnny Bower all say "Hold my beer."

Projecting much are we. You're listing exceptions and not the general rule bud. I think your post really sums it up. Any credibility, if any you had, is now gone. You continue to throw insults which shows a level of immaturity of a teen.

Was hoping for better but instead now I just pity you :/

You came in starting a thread just to shit on a rookie goalie (who shouldn't have even been playing if Woll wasn't made of f***ing glass) you've never heard of or watched before, and said 'he's not even an AHL goaltender', which is just a braindead take. When I provide his stats to you to show you that you are wrong, you ignore it completely and talk about how he's not an 'elite' NHL goalie, and then you hit @Fogelhund with the classic mouthbreathing 'dO yOu eVeN wAtCh tHe gAmEs' line when he calls you out for the same thing.

As for the bolded, I never asked for or needed your validation.

He's not an AHL goatlender. I can buy you a new TV cuz you clearly need one. You're right that he should not be playing for the Leafs. But to even suggest that he's a solid AHL goatlender is a joke as well. He sucks, point blank. Being honest, and objectively critical isn't offensive unless you're sensitive which I think you might be.

Anyways, lets try to stay on point, not throw insults and keep things civil, thanks.

 

[BlueAzN]

There is no question that yesterday wasn't a good game for Hildeby.

The reality is, I watch more hockey than I should... including the Marlies quite a bit, so I've seen Hildeby play 20+ games.

The idea that he's a trash goalie, because of one game is what myself, and many others take exception to. He's been good to great the rest of his career, including his prior NHL game that he won this year. Strangely, his previous game against one of the better teams in the league, he won the game, and was 0.913. He was an AHL All Star, He had great stats with the Marlies last year, and is a SHL champion.

I don't know if you are trolling, or just don't know the player and his history.

maybe we can just chalk this up to a difference of opinion. In my world, he objectively sucks is not AHL caliber. Most people disagree. I don't mind that. But in the end I'm confident I'll be right like I was about Eichel, Marner, Matthews, etc... even when people claimed my takes were asinine.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Exactly, that's the whole point. You get it and understand hockey. Hildeby sucks, I knew it the day he played with the Marlies. He will never belong on an NHL squad. We can do better with our 3rd string goatlender.


If you put up .913% in the AHL, trust me you are not AHL ready. You clearly don't get it. I'd bet a decent amount of money that with a .913, that doesn't even put him in the top 15 of the AHL. He straight up SUCKS. I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

Hell just watch the game yesterday and it's pretty clear he has no business being a semi-pro. He needs to go sell insurance or get a college degree. No future in this brutal business.

He was tied for 13th last year in the AHL for save percentage btw.

 

[hullsy47]

A few things look different this season, but some things will just never change with this franchise.

some players already look like they tuned chief out

 

[henryasteroidlionnet]

I still can't believe how awful the PP is with this much talent. How many coaches have we been through? I have come to the realization that it's these rich players and their self-egotistical ways that are not willing to change to make things better.

 

[ACC1224]

I still can't believe how awful the PP is with this much talent. How many coaches have we been through? I have come to the realization that it's these rich players and their self-egotistical ways that are not willing to change to make things better.

They've been one of the top PP units every year, it's the playoffs where it's struggled.

some players already look like they tuned chief out

Which ones?

 

[Dough72]

It is just the talking point of him being in the lineup, I know he played last night and stopped nothing, just like usual.

He's useless but somehow people think he is a deterrent.



I actually don't think Berube likes Reaves all that much.

Players like Mcabe/Benouit/Domi are there to keep the team from getting clowned all season and feeling like total cowards. Reaves is there for that too but also to keep Mcabe/Benouit/Domi from getting bullied by actual goons. I don't think the argument that other teams still cross the line once in a while is a good one because we don't know how often it would happen without them. Or we sort of do because we've seen it in years past where the team gets bullied and just skate away probably feeling about 1 foot tall. Either way I think if you ask the actual players if they want Reaves on the roster it would a resounding Yes which is the most important thing.

 

[notbias]

Players like Mcabe/Benouit/Domi are there to keep the team from getting clowned all season and feeling like total cowards. Reaves is there for that too but also to keep Mcabe/Benouit/Domi from getting bullied by actual goons. I don't think the argument that other teams still cross the line once in a while is a good one because we don't know how often it would happen without them. Or we sort of do because we've seen it in years past where the team gets bullied and just skate away probably feeling about 1 foot tall. Either way I think if you ask the actual players if they want Reaves on the roster it would a resounding Yes which is the most important thing.

I don't think most care if he is there and would rather have better players.

I am sure Matthews would prefer to have someone more defensively responsible there so he has to take fewer D-zone draws.

 

[Hellcat]

Sucks to get curb stomped but it was to be expected. the type of game Berube wants is a high tempo, empty your tanks type game, they guy didn't have time to recharge their batteries. you could see their minds were exhausted.

What this does do, is allow the Leafs to learn how to play an ugly game, well enough to win but not their typical up tempo type game, play a clog the neutral zone, keep shots outside, dont take offensive risks, play a safe boring game in the games where you dont have your A game. They need to develop a B game, when the A game is not there, that can be good enough to win ugly.

 

[henryasteroidlionnet]

They've been one of the top PP units every year, it's the playoffs where it's struggled.


Which ones?

They haven't started that way this season. Also I noticed the Leafs are at the bottom when it comes to PPO or power play opportunities over the past 5 years. The refs don't like us. lol.

Best NHL Team Power Play In The Last 5 Years | StatMuse

Between October 24, 2019 and October 24, 2024, the Colorado Avalanche have the most power plays by a team, with 1,255 opportunities.

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[ACC1224]

They haven't started that way this season. Also I noticed the Leafs are at the bottom when it comes to PPO or power play opportunities over the past 5 years. The refs don't like us. lol.

Best NHL Team Power Play In The Last 5 Years | StatMuse

Between October 24, 2019 and October 24, 2024, the Colorado Avalanche have the most power plays by a team, with 1,255 opportunities.

www.statmuse.com

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Yes, they've had a slow start but I would expect the PP to come around.

 

[Stephen]

I'm more worried about games where we've come to play for a couple of periods, and then decide to go all nonchalant in the 3rd and blow it. To me, that's the bigger issue to sort out. YMMV

Well, those are all faces of the same team, like when and why does the foot come off the gas and the drop off between the A Game and C Game so massive.

 

[Mess]

 

[ULF_55]

Reasonable people are.

Yes, and you can have a good game and lose.

105-115 points ... Leafs should be fine.

 

[banks]

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+- is a garbage stat most of the time. But it does tell a tale when used in certain situations. This one is actually pretty bad.

It was a disaster game. If you had never seen hockey before, you'd probably believe that JVR was a bigger star than anyone on the Leafs' roster.

 

[notDatsyuk]

He was tied for 13th last year in the AHL for save percentage btw.

The vitriol in his posts makes it sound as though there's something personal there.

 

[Mess]

+- is a garbage stat most of the time. But it does tell a tale when used in certain situations. This one is actually pretty bad.

It was a disaster game. If you had never seen hockey before, you'd probably believe that JVR was a bigger star than anyone on the Leafs' roster.

Leafs top line trio and top 3 Dman all finished the game at -3 +/- on the night.

Leafs best players were all on the ice for 3 more goals against then for at even strength.

That is pretty bad to the core.

 

[WTFMAN99]

It's frustrating that we're 4-3 so far.

MTL we shot blanks
NYR we got goalied
CBJ - this was frustrating, no one looked good.