Hurt
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It was really good, in my opinion. I get a feeling the second movie will suck and the third will be really good as well.
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It was really good, in my opinion. I get a feeling the second movie will suck and the third will be really good as well.
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kamosko
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If you were the Boston Bruins, would you trade Doug Hamilton for Martin St. Louis?
If you were the Minnesota Wild, would you trade Granlund and Dumba +++ for Tim Thomas (assuming hes playing)?
kamosko
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If I was a Martin St. Louis away from winning the Cup then maybe, but probably not.
How is Melky Cabrera too anyway? Use another NHL player comparison, that's probably the only way I'll get it
If I was a Martin St. Louis away from winning the Cup then maybe, but probably not.
How is Melky Cabrera too anyway? Use another NHL player comparison, that's probably the only way I'll get it
Look at my Minnesota comparison, makes more sense because the off-season moves and having a very good farm system.
Melky Cabrera is like, I don't even know. Rick Nash maybe? But we'll see how he is off the juice.
charliolemieux
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This is a good comparison, though I am not sure about Granlund and Dumba being equated to what the Jays are giving up.
That's the thing though, no team knows if they are one piece away from winning the Cup (or World Series). They can only think they are until it actually happens. The Jays think they do, therefore they made the trade. Only time will tell what happens. However, the perceived opinion is that the Jays were already a playoff contender (hence why I used Boston as an example), so it did not make sense to throw away 2 of your top 5 prospects.
Maybe a Reilly for Luongo trade. Luongo probably gets the Leafs into the playoffs, but Reilly could be a superstar. Do you make that trade? It's pretty much equivalent to what Toronto just did.
The good thing though, is that you should be seeing playoff baseball in October. Combine this with hopefully hockey coming back around that time, and you could be witnessing the best October this city has had in a long time.
How is Melky Cabrera too anyway? Use another NHL player comparison, that's probably the only way I'll get it
Cabrera was a solid signing, no complaints there. It's hard to find an NHL equivalent, but picture: a hockey player with perceived attitude problems and a history of steroids, who because of those reasons and nothing to do with talent or skill, signs for below market-value. His expected contribution can be around 60 points for his 2 year contract.
Melky should put up 10-15 homeruns, hit close to .300, and most importantly, be a great guy to get on base before Jose Bautista and Edwin Encarnacion.
charliolemieux
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Dickey and his Knuckle ball will screw up batters in more than just the game he pitches.
You go Johnson Beuhrle Morrow Dickey Romero and the opposing batters will be ****ed.
Day one power pitcher.
Day two finesse pitcher.
Day Three Power pitcher
Day 4 Knuckle baller.
Day 5 Doesn't really matter cause all pitchers look fast after a day of looking at 70mph knuckle balls.
Dickey could be the key to making this the best pitching staff I've seen in Toronto since 1993.
He's 38 years old and has been a good pitcher for one year before the Cy Young win. He was a minor leaguer most of his career, who knows if he's a one hit wonder or not? What if hitters pick up on his 70 MPH knuckleball? He's useless after that. Plus, he's only signed to a one year deal for 5M. Sure, the extension talks are going on right now, but chances are he'll be demanding a high price due to his Cy Young award, and will not receive the amount he deserves which based on his career should be low.
The point is, if he is a one hit wonder which could likely be the case, he'll be absolutely useless. His only good pitch is the knuckleball, and it only goes from mid 70s to low 80s, if he misses his spot as he as admitted to doing many times its an easy home run for a major league hitter. All these risks and question marks. We don't even know if this team will make the playoffs, we all thought the Raptors would too, you just never know in Toronto. You'd also be giving up Travis d'Arnaud, the number one catching prospect in baseball, who has been developing perfectly and just as we hoped minus the injuries. He is ranked as the eleventh best prospect in baseball by the MLB ahead of players like Mike Olt, the next best catcher being Gary Sanchez of the Yankees at thirty-six. That alone should be a red flag, then you also add the other pieces going to the Mets in the rumored deal. John Buck, no big loss there, but he is a very serviceable backup catcher he could be one of the very best in the league. Noah Syndergaard is an absolute stud, he can easily crank his fastball into the high nineties, while commanding it very well. His breaking ball is above average, and so is his change-up. He has a whole toolbox of ways he can mess with hitters, and keep in mind, he's only 19. MLB says "He’s just getting started, but the finished product could be a frontline starter." But wait, that's not all! Aaron Sanchez's name has also been thrown around, who is arguably a lot better than Syndergaard. He's 22 and is being developed very surely, but is on track, his numbers don't lie. Right now, his fastball hits the nineties without him even being fully matured, he commands it very well. His curveball is one of the best among pitching prospects, but his change-up needs a little more fine tuning. Potentially a VERY high reward, as I'm sure you know, he's been compared to Justin Verlander.
Not worth those three prospects at all, IMO. I'd much rather go out and sign Edwin Jackson, who'd fit in perfectly and is also a very good pitcher.
charliolemieux
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The deal won't go through if AA can't sign Dickey to an extension. He has 72hrs to do so.
A few things before we're booted over to the jays thread.
Where is Syndergaard going to play? Remember two of our best pitching prospects are out with Tommy John surgery right now. Morrow is relatively young. We have a derth of pitching so let's do it.
A Knuckle ball only becomes easy to hit when it starts to go straight.
D'Arnaud might be the best Catching prospect in the minors. Remember when Travis Snyder was hitting close to .400 and hitting 30+hr in AAA?
We know Arencebia can hit in the majors. What if D'Arnaud comes up and hits .197?
All I am saying is JPA is a known entity.
The franchise set 2013 as it's target year, and AA has done an amazing job in assebling a great team that through luck or genius is at a time when the Red Sox and Yankees are on the down side of their power.
There are also an unnamed prospefct from each team according to SN. Probably dependant on a Dickey extension and how far the Jays make it.
Why can't Syndergaard continue developing in the minors? Our two best pitching prospects are Sanchez and Syndergaard, don't even say Drabek. Yeah, I remember Snyder, but if you're bringing up a prospect who didn't live up to expectations, I could easily bring up one who exceeded them, but I won't because I'm lazy. Arencibia is a decent hitter as a catcher, at any other position he would easily be one of the worst. Also, d'Arnaud has been hitting very well in the minors lol, that question is flat out dumb, don't know why you asked it. Its like me asking, what if Arencibia bats .099? Yup, the franchise is set to win yet we can do so without losing our prospects if we go out and sign former all-star pitcher Edwin Jackson, who's in his prime. The unknown prospects have been called "low quality" and what not by a lot of sources.
charliolemieux
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I asked the question because hitting AAA pitching is a far cry from hitting pitching in The Show. Some guys can do it and some guys can't.
Besides if we traded Arencebia the unknown prospect headed the other way, would probably not be Low Quality.
And like I said JPA is the known entity.
I think you underestimate what a good knuckle baller can mean to a pitching staff.
At any rate we should probably quit talking Baseball in here when there is a thread just going ******* right above it.
Contgrats though I think this is the first time I accidentally hijacked the Lounge.
MoreMogilny
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Umm, this is supposed to be an off topic thread, k guys?
So take your legitimate discussion elsewhere, cuz we don't need any of that crap screwing up this neat and orderly chaotic mess that is the LL.
So take your legitimate discussion elsewhere, cuz we don't need any of that crap screwing up this neat and orderly chaotic mess that is the LL.
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