Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose to Canucks 3-0

[Torontonian]

Did he really say this?

It’s comments like this where they make you see the real disconnection between Marner and the team. He thinks poor efforts are acceptable.

 

[tp71]

It’s comments like this where they make you see the real disconnection between Marner and the team. He thinks poor efforts are acceptable.

Its clear to me he doesnt hate to lose

 

[thewave]

Its clear to me he doesnt hate to lose

Why so mad. It's just game.

 

[NinjaKick]

 

[francis246]

What did Matthews and Nylander have to say?

Nylander didn’t speak.

But Matthews quote,

Matthews on the PP: "We just have to get more pucks to the net. A lot of movement, kind of a lot of nothing going on, I guess. I just think we can do a better job of simplifying it."

So similar sentiments to Marner

 

[DragoGrizzly]

It’s comments like this where they make you see the real disconnection between Marner and the team. He thinks poor efforts are acceptable.

I can’t believe he said that. I was at the game tonight with my son and we couldn’t believe the lack of intensity from the Leafs. The passes were off, the skating was slow. I don’t remember a single grade A chance from them all night. Felt bad for my son who rarely gets to see them play live. Vancouver didn’t even look all that good either. I just would have liked to see a single ounce of emotion.

 

[Kiwi]

Now that ladies and gentlemen was a dog **** effort

Unfortunately this is what happens after you've won a bunch of games you probably shouldn't have, eventually the goaltending can't continue going God mode and you start losing games you were winning 2 weeks ago

Honestly the lines need a shake up and the team needs a good kick up the ass

Losing happens but I'd like to see some effort and emotion put in at least

 

[1specter]

Embarrassing all around. Got by winning against crap teams but now that the competition is stepped up they're getting exposedm

 

[Taylor Halls Teeth]

Having more money doesn’t mean you get a better bottom six. It means you just overpay shittier players. Look at the cap hits of the best teams in the leagues bottom six. No different than the leafs. The difference? Those players play a certain way that’s conducive to winning and sustained success. The drive the net all the damn time. Toronto’s pro scouting staff have done a terrible job of identifying good players. We are paying Max Domi what? 3.5 or 4 mill, instead of getting a Nick Paul type for the same amount of money.

I think there is a couple of million more they would have spent on the bottom 6 if they had it but that gets you maybe one more useful guy than what they have. $41 M on four guys is a real thing but its more a general tax on the choices they can make and choices like Kampf suggest they might waste any spare change they had.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Having more money doesn’t mean you get a better bottom six. It means you just overpay shittier players. Look at the cap hits of the best teams in the leagues bottom six. No different than the leafs. The difference? Those players play a certain way that’s conducive to winning and sustained success. The drive the net all the damn time. Toronto’s pro scouting staff have done a terrible job of identifying good players. We are paying Max Domi what? 3.5 or 4 mill, instead of getting a Nick Paul type for the same amount of money.

I think that you're probably right. For years now they have not been able to identify good players, though. And you guys keep justifying paying our top guys all this money anyway. Like what will happen if the Leafs shake up the core for once, huh? The world is not gonna end, and I think the Leafs will be a better team for it.

 

[Jozay]

It’s comments like this where they make you see the real disconnection between Marner and the team. He thinks poor efforts are acceptable.

It’s not just Marner. It’s the whole team.

Been like this for years too

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

It’s not just Marner. It’s the whole team.

Been like this for years too

Yup, time to rebuild was a summer ago.

 

[Evilhomer]

I think that you're probably right. For years now they have not been able to identify good players, though. And you guys keep justifying paying our top guys all this money anyway. Like what will happen if the Leafs shake up the core for once, huh? The world is not gonna end, and I think the Leafs will be a better team for it.

Management (two sets of management, at that) has shown zero willingness to move off these four guys. I'm hard-pressed to believe they ever will. I will be shocked if Marner and Tavares aren't resigned before the season ends, and I'm on record saying over and over again that I don't want the leafs to resign Tavares.

 

[PromisedLand]

Did he really say this?

talk about being tone deaf esepcially after years of playoff failures

 

[PromisedLand]

He has to be joking. If not he is totally delusional
They should ask the loser what he thought of their PP

Living in an echo chamber is one of the worst things one can do whether real life or hockey

marner has been a prime candidate based on his comments in the media of living in an echo chamber

 

[wingman75]

Glad I didn’t watch.

I had to watch the recording. I made it as far as the end of the 3rd powerplay. Angrily stopped and deleted the recording. Checked the score and felt better for not subjecting myself to whatever-the-f*** that was supposed to be.

I mean, it was 100% predictable.

It's interesting so far this season. It feels like the peak is higher under Berube, yet the low is lower under Berube as well. Can't say I expected that.

When they play like they did over the past two games, there isn't a team in the league they'd beat consistently.

I am more disgusted than disappointed at this stage.

 

[wingman75]

Living in an echo chamber is one of the worst things one can do whether real life or hockey

marner has been a prime candidate based on his comments in the media of living in an echo chamber

All true. Also makes me feel the whole taking responsibility thing doesn't exist with this group. It's always someone elses fault, or, we did great and are so close, just need a bounce or two.

If you never acknowledge your reality, you are never going to change it.

Moments like this take away all the good Marner has done this season (to me at least). Perhaps an exageration, except this has been his reality for 8 f***ing seasons and he still DOES NOT GET IT. Thanks Jumbo lol

Now that ladies and gentlemen was a dog **** effort

Unfortunately this is what happens after you've won a bunch of games you probably shouldn't have, eventually the goaltending can't continue going God mode and you start losing games you were winning 2 weeks ago

Honestly the lines need a shake up and the team needs a good kick up the ass

Losing happens but I'd like to see some effort and emotion put in at least

Most on here, and I emphasise most, are usually not phased by a loss. They are however bothered by a complete lack of effort, often even in a win... and then for MM double down and come out and say you thought the team played great is just the icing. Preparing us for the playoffs early I guess.

 

[Stephen]

It feels like the team decided to take the night off after Hildeby let in that junk first goal 30 seconds in. I get it too, I checked out watching but it feels like a low character response with your 3rd string rookie in net to just sleepwalk through it.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Marner might legitimately be the worst NHL player when it comes to post-game interviews.

Just total shambles in the brain.

 

[Martin Skoula]

I think that you're probably right. For years now they have not been able to identify good players, though. And you guys keep justifying paying our top guys all this money anyway. Like what will happen if the Leafs shake up the core for once, huh? The world is not gonna end, and I think the Leafs will be a better team for it.

Shake up the core just don’t spend the money you save overpaying 3rd liners that just gave their best years to another contender for 900k. Get a top D, get two top 6 scorers, overpay a prime Tom Wilson type unicorn if you must, just don’t spend it on the Clutterbucks/Lyubushkins of the league.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

It feels like the team decided to take the night off after Hildeby let in that junk first goal 30 seconds in. I get it too, I checked out watching but it feels like a low character response with your 3rd string rookie in net to just sleepwalk through it.

How was that first goal junk? It went off Boeser's shin in the slot.

 

[wingman75]

How was that first goal junk? It went off Boeser's shin in the slot.

Yeah, was a bad bounce if anything. It wasn't like it was a tip by a guy who was left open, or the goalie missing an easy shot.

Unfortunate for sure, but should have been something the team could have some back from.

It feels like the team decided to take the night off after Hildeby let in that junk first goal 30 seconds in. I get it too, I checked out watching but it feels like a low character response with your 3rd string rookie in net to just sleepwalk through it.

I mean, it is low character... it's been 8 years of low character. We are the fools thinking it could be anything different... well us and Shanny of course.

If Tre is serious, he makes a blockbuster and moves one of the core.

 

[Stephen]

Eh yes and no. Hildeby let in the first one vs Philly too. So there’s just a psychological impact when something so early goes in. Plus that Matthews Marner has been eaten up alive in the Carolina game too. Team was just in shit mode after that.

 

[Stephen]

Yeah, was a bad bounce if anything. It wasn't like it was a tip by a guy who was left open, or the goalie missing an easy shot.

Unfortunate for sure, but should have been something the team could have some back from.


I mean, it is low character... it's been 8 years of low character. We are the fools thinking it could be anything different... well us and Shanny of course.

If Tre is serious, he makes a blockbuster and moves one of the core.

What frustrates me about Captain Matthews and Mitch Marner is they just have such a low floor game. Like when it doesn’t go, it’s exceptionally bad.

 

[wingman75]

What frustrates me about Captain Matthews and Mitch Marner is they just have such a low floor game. Like when it doesn’t go, it’s exceptionally bad.

Yea, it's always been one of the most frustrating things about them. The gap between their best and worst is so massive...

We have seen them have a terrible period or two, then a massive 3rd... rarely the other way. It's not super common, but if they start out on the bad side, more often than not that is the side they finish on.

It wasn't just them tonight though, but they are supposed to be the leaders. Team goes as they go and everybody knows it.