Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose to Bruins 4-1

[Ports]

Losing JT’s cap hit will help, but I’d let Marner walk if he can’t be traded (which he can’t), not because he isn’t a great player, but lose half the core, lose half the team’s problem………

Losing JT’s cap hit will help, but I’d let Marner walk if he can’t be traded (which he can’t), not because he isn’t a great player, but lose half the core, lose half the team’s problem………

Pelley will have to fire Shanahan for that to happen. He’s married to this soft core.

 

[rumman]

Marchand is such a pos. he just turtles anytime he is challenged. He is so infuriating.



The call on Knies to set up that 5-on-3 was so eggregious. I think that ref will be promoted to call the SC finals. NHL loves incompetence.

Every team gets bad calls for and against, there is no conspiracy against the Leafs, that’s my point…….

Pelley will have to fire Shanahan for that to happen. He’s married to this soft core.

One can hope…….

 

[Evilhomer]

Lines 5v5 over the last month since the shakeup:

Knies/Matthews/Marner:
xGF%: 64.32
Goal Differential: 68.93

Bertuzzi/Domi/Nylander:
xGF%: 37.75
Goal Differential: 57.92

x/Taveras/McMann:
xGF%: 59.78
Goal Differential: 75.54

x/Kampf/x:
xGF%: 60.81
Goal Differential: 66.38

I can see why so many think the Leafs need another center as, despite playing the softest minutes of the bunch, our "2nd line" has gotten wrecked overall, masked by Bertuzzi finally putting some pucks in the net.

Said it a million times. They desperately need a competent centre.

 

[fahad203]

Marchand is such a pos. he just turtles anytime he is challenged. He is so infuriating.



The call on Knies to set up that 5-on-3 was so eggregious. I think that ref will be promoted to call the SC finals. NHL loves incompetence.

I am not upset at Marchand as much as I am p***ed at our core
The reason Marchand gets to play like a prime Lindros because we allow it

Pastarnak flies around, does whatever he wants because he knows Nylander isn't goign to touch him. 4 times last night, Nylander was around his vicinity, 4 times he did a fly by

Pastarnak would have no problem drilling Nylander into the boards. Even they are best friends

Matthews being 6'3 is the softest 6'3 star I have seen. Even Mike Modano who was known to be soft earlier in his career changed his game. He started to hit back, grind it out.
I never see that grind from Matthews. If he doesn't score, he's just a big body skating around

 

[Zybalto]

News flash…….the ref’s DO NOT have it in for the Maple Leafs, calls get missed all the time for every team, focus on the real reasons this team didn’t win………

I was just pointing out it still happened and still sucks and hoping things swing back the other way in the playoffs.

 

[rumman]

I was just pointing out it still happened and still sucks and hoping things swing back the other way in the playoffs.

With human nature focusing on the negative, don’t hold your breathe, I see plenty of penalties that are not called against the Leafs, just like every other team……

 

[Gary Nylund]

What did you guys think of the Refs blowing those 2 similar penalty calls? Somehow give the Bruins a 5 on 3 to start the game getting the wrong player on the Leafs and then somehow only give them 4 minutes on an obvious 6-minute call?

All this after blowing 2 continuation plays in the last game.

....and you wonder why so many conspiracy theories get started lol.

Like they said on the broadcast, the way they got that 5on3 wrong was baffling but 5on3 was the correct end result so it had no impact on the game.

That other one was complete BS. The Leafs should have been much better last night but same goes for the refs. We would have lost the game anyway though, and I don't believe in the conspiracy theory.

 

[Ports]

if you look at our team we have the core 3 and ? pretty much nothing else

-up and down goaltending
-Rielly and a bunch of bottom pairing D
-a few forwards that are useful and maybe Knies turns into something but for the most part there's not much there of quality after the core 3

as much as people want to dump on them for continuing to come up short , Mather/Marner/Nylander are actually carrying a truly pathetic team into another top 10 season

also , you don't trade Marner , you sit JT down this summer and tell him he ain't coming back after this season so he can either waive and be traded or play out the final season and walk , the team will improve by him just not being in the lineup

Who’s going to take him at that salary or anything close to it? I see another 1st round pick going out the door to move him. That’s if he waives his NMC and why would he want to move his family when he’s a UFA in another year?

 

[fahad203]

Nylander has been the most consistent playoff and big game performer for the Leafs. He may be disinterested in mid season nothing games, but he is the first one to show up when the games matter.

Short memory for some.

There has been plenty of players in this league who has points per game player in playoffs and still considred duds.

You can score points and still not be impactful.

If Nylander isn't scoring any fancy goals, he's utter useless. That's the point here

Pastarnak, who always scores points against the leafs, if he had a game where he wasn't scoring, he would make it up other ways. He actually hits, competes for pucks along the boards, goes to the net hard.

Last night William had a chance to wrap around....What does he do? goes for a fancy skate. He didn't want to pay the price...He didn't want to take the hit

Just another soft player, all about wearing nice silver chain, looking good, getting some points

Love the guy... I really do.... same with Matthews. Just doesn't have that x factor to win.,

 

[HamiltonNHL]

I actually think we can take these guys, nothing I saw the last two games makes me think they're unbeatable.

I love it.

But you are dreaming.

We match up terrible vs. Boston.

And our weak PK is the nail in the coffin.

 

[Ports]

over 16m on Bert/Domi/Klingberg/Reaves/Kampf

Except Klingberg doesn’t count against the cap and Bert and Domi actually showed up in the games against Boston while the $40M core hid behind them.

 

[leafs in five]

Except Klingberg doesn’t count against the cap

every time

 

[Zybalto]

Like they said on the broadcast, the way they got that 5on3 wrong was baffling but 5on3 was the correct end result so it had no impact on the game.

That other one was complete BS. The Leafs should have been much better last night but same goes for the refs. We would have lost the game anyway though, and I don't believe in the conspiracy theory.

They still keep blowing calls is the worrying part.

Somehow 2 refs and instant replay have made things worse the last couple decades lol.

 

[leafs in five]

I say instead of trading picks or prospects we just sign a dman for 4.15m

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Nylander has been the most consistent playoff and big game performer for the Leafs. He may be disinterested in mid season nothing games, but he is the first one to show up when the games matter.

Short memory for some.

Historical revisionism at its finest.

 

[Ports]

Matthews is a better player than Pastrnak, but for me, just by a smidge, it's very close.

That's what's so frustrating about Matthews, if he had Pastrnaks mindset it wouldn't be close, we'd be like McWhoDavid

Matthews is the best goal scorer in the league but Pasta’s compete level is much higher and he’s a better playmaker. I would take Pasta in the playoffs over Matthews because he plays well in high intensity games while Matthews gets shut down too easily.

 

[hotpaws]

Who’s going to take him at that salary or anything close to it? I see another 1st round pick going out the door to move him. That’s if he waives his NMC and why would he want to move his family when he’s a UFA in another year?

his salary isn't the problem , he's only owed 900k after his bonus is paid so it wouldn't be hard to find a team to take him even if it's just the Yotes who'd love to have him at 900k with a 11m cap hit since they need to hit the floor with 15m of ltir coming off their books this summer so i doubt we'd have to give them anything , hell they might even give us a pick or two in return

the main problem is he has to waive , unfortunately JT thinks he's an elite player

and yes he has only a yr left so if he doesn't want to retire which i doubt he does he'll have to uproot his family anyway which doesn't mean much since his kids are very young

 

[Ports]

The Bruins lost in the 1st round last year after the most successful regular season of all time

The Bruins have a tradition of playing tough, hard nosed hockey and won’t accept lack of effort from their players. They always have veteran leadership and their players put the team first. They lost their number one and two centers and just keep rolling along as a top five team in the league. I hate them but have to respect what they do as an organization.

his salary isn't the problem , he's only owed 900k after his bonus is paid so it wouldn't be hard to find a team to take him even if it's just the Yotes who'd love to have him at 900k with a 11m cap hit since they need to hit the floor with 15m of ltir coming off their books this summer so i doubt we'd have to give them anything , hell they might even give us a pick or to in return

the main problem is he has to waive , unfortunately JT thinks he's an elite player

and yes he has only a yr left so if he doesn't want to retire which i doubt he does he'll have to uproot his family anyway which doesn't mean much since his kids are very young

It’s his cap hit that’s the problem though. And Tavares ain’t waiving to go play in front of 4800 fans or another cap floor team.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Bad game last night. A couple ugly goals let up by Woll. But if there are any positives, it is seeing some pushback from the team. Bertuzzi filling in Wotherspoon and Domi giving it to McAvoy towards the end of the game was good to see and wouldn't have happened with the prior years' teams.

Rare that you get a regular season game with a playoff like atmosphere and intensity. Last night was one of them.

 

[Ports]

I would rather have a decent dman

Unfortunately they don’t grow on trees and very few make it to UFA. Klingberg was a below average defender who would replace Rielly on the PP which would have helped. It didn’t work out but at least he’s on LTIR.

 

[Arzak]

Matthews is the best goal scorer in the league but Pasta’s compete level is much higher and he’s a better playmaker. I would take Pasta in the playoffs over Matthews because he plays well in high intensity games while Matthews gets shut down to easily.

Spot on, I would take Pasta for playoffs too.

Matthews as good as he is, is still struggling to reach his potential. He is big body C, he should be able to knock people off the puck and rule corners .

Use the force (frame) you have. In his defense, he does that to an extent as seen reflected by his hit totals.

 

[hotpaws]

Bad game last night. A couple ugly goals let up by Woll. But if there are any positives, it is seeing some pushback from the team. Bertuzzi filling in Wotherspoon and Domi giving it to McAvoy towards the end of the game was good to see and wouldn't have happened with the prior years' teams.

Rare that you get a regular season game with a playoff like atmosphere and intensity. Last night was one of them.

yup Bert and Domi showed heart , McCabe cross checks to the head was just plain stupid at that point in the game

 

[hotpaws]

It’s his cap hit that’s the problem though.

yup it's a problem but it could be worked around if he didn't have an full nmc

hopefully he realizes his time is up here , a year in the desert where few fans give a damn about hockey would be a graceful exist out of his contract

it's not going to pretty for him next year if he continues his steep decline

 

[Ports]

I am not upset at Marchand as much as I am p***ed at our core
The reason Marchand gets to play like a prime Lindros because we allow it

Pastarnak flies around, does whatever he wants because he knows Nylander isn't goign to touch him. 4 times last night, Nylander was around his vicinity, 4 times he did a fly by

Pastarnak would have no problem drilling Nylander into the boards. Even they are best friends

Matthews being 6'3 is the softest 6'3 star I have seen. Even Mike Modano who was known to be soft earlier in his career changed his game. He started to hit back, grind it out.
I never see that grind from Matthews. If he doesn't score, he's just a big body skating around

But his smile when entering scrums must be disarming to their opponents.

 

[mcleex]

Twice this year that big nosed rat has injured our player and we've done nothing about it
It was nice to see Domi try to rough him up a bit but not good enough.