Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose... Again.

[Suntouchable13]

Sheer curiosity asking… is Babs still on the books?
Not that I care about MLSE wasting their $$$$$$$…
Just curious

Nah, I think it ran out in the summer. That's why he took the Columbus job.

 

[pcruz]

Sheer curiosity asking… is Babs still on the books?
Not that I care about MLSE wasting their $$$$$$$…
Just curious

No.

It's why he signed with the Blue Jackets this off season.

His money from Toronto stopped coming in and needed to get himself another sucker to fire him.

 

[Mr_Fun]

Hi Paul.

Can you let your son know he sucked tonight? Thanks

He didn't have a great night but he wasn't the sole reason they lost. That's just silly.

 

[All Mod Cons]

He didn't get 7 points and win a fight.

He had no positive impact on the game. Could've sat him and played Kampf there and it wouldn't have looked any different.

That's a worry

 

[Dragao6]

I think I'd rather have Caufield from the Habs than Marner if I'm being honest...how much money does Caufield make?

Let’s not get totally crazy
Caufield is good on the powerplay, nice shot
Very Laine-ish!!!!
5v5 Meh

 

[Nineteen67]

7th in the conference in pt %.

 

[Gabriel426]

He's not a good coach. And he won't be talked about as a Legend here.

But it's more than that. We have 3 x 11mil forwards. We have 1 of them who is playing terribly. Another who is our 2nd line centre on pace for 19 even strength goals. We have one our top pairing dmen that shouldn't be playing because he's nearly unusable. And we have 1 goalie we can play.

There's so much wrong, we need to take a serious step or two back to figure out the best way forward.

Well, does Keefe have a structure system in place? Has Keefe ever tried to spread the 3 x 11mil players into three effective scoring lines?
Keefe always get outmatched by opposing coaches in playoffs.

Keefe is not the only problem but he is one of them.

Don’t think the team is bad but they need a new mentality or someone, a coach, who set the tone instead of just letting them go free fall and win with talents.

 

[PeteBestondrums]

Mitch Marner never held out.

Sept. 2019.

 

[Evilhomer]

I don't think this is the game to ride them. It was a pretty even game, but just happened to be a loss. They will probably beat LA on the road and then somehow lose one of the San Jose games.

 

[Nineteen67]

I think I'd rather have Caufield from the Habs than Marner if I'm being honest...how much money does Caufield make?

Aho, yes.

 

[blue stick]

Sheer curiosity asking… is Babs still on the books?
Not that I care about MLSE wasting their $$$$$$$…
Just curious

I think that finished when he signed to coach Columbus

 

[PromisedLand]

this loss falls squarely on marner. he should be humiliated in the presser and benched.

dont forget brodie. he has been complete ass the entire season.

brodie should be a permanent scratch. Frekain' retain 50% on him and dump him

 

[LeafSteel]

When the Leafs lose, Marner does not look, feel remotely like a franchise player. Not sure if that says something about his value when he's a top end player and acting like it. Or if it means when he's off he's just going to be really off.

We've had so many debates on here about Marner relative to a guy like Aho. Aho is a skilled guy who is also a trusted defensive player. Don't watch Canes games on a regular basis but he just plays it honestly and there's no goofy stuff.

Difference between Marner and Aho?

Both highly skilled. Aho thinks the game on a high level and knows how to play hard and keep it simple.

Marner, years into his career, is still trying to do junior hockey shit. Playing with Matthews just makes it worse.

Aho is a student of the game.

Marner is a mental midget of the game.

 

[PeteBestondrums]

Aho, yes.

Aho for sure. I think Caufield is a money player where Marner clearly fades...it's not entirely skill I'm looking at.

 

[Mr_Fun]

He had no positive impact on the game. Could've sat him and played Kampf there and it wouldn't have looked any different.

That's a worry

Like I said above. Not a good night, but this idea of scapegoating him for the loss is a little over the top silly. It's a team loss , -- as a group they didn't find enough to get it done.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Well, does Keefe have a structure system in place? Has Keefe ever tried to spread the 3 x 11mil players into three effective scoring lines?
Keefe always get outmatched by opposing coaches in playoffs.

Keefe is not the only problem but he is one of them.

Don’t think the team is bad but they need a new mentality or someone, a coach, who set the tone instead of just letting them go free fall and win with talents.

They definitely need a new coach, that is true.

But i want the team to stop patching over holes and actually fix the damn problem before it's unfixable. I've wanted this for 5 years now. I'm still watching every game hoping and praying, but here we still are.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Boston and Florida just pulling away now. Maybe we can get our asses spanked by a Metro team this time in the first round if we fall into a wildcard spot. At least that would be new

 

[Gabriel426]

Difference between Marner and Aho?

Both highly skilled. Aho thinks the game on a high level and knows how to play hard and keep it simple.

Marner, years into his career, is still trying to do junior hockey shit. Playing with Matthews just makes it worse.

Aho is a student of the game.

Marner is a mental midget of the game.

MM overthinks the game when he struggles.
Playing with AM makes both of them complacent. They both feed off each other and will score goals and breaks records but it is easy to shut them down in the playoffs.

 

[Gallagbi]

He's just an easy target to focus on to avoid acknowledging the real problems.

He was a problem tonight and hasn't played very well during this skid

 

[Nineteen67]

Aho for sure. I think Caufield is a money player where Marner clearly fades...it's not entirely skill I'm looking at.

Marner had that blocked shot against Washington in his first playoff and he said he ain’t ever doin that again.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Mitch Marner never held out.

He didn't have to, Nylander did the work for him.

KD didn't want another saga, so he acquiesced to his demands without much of a fight.

 

[TMLegend]

Mitch Marner never held out.

He did threaten to sign an offer sheet though, at least that was reported by the media if I remember correctly.

 

[ToneDog]

Meanwhile Bruins come back from 2 love to beat NJ 5-2. Not gonna catch them soon.

 

[PromisedLand]

If the Leafs lay an egg in California, Keefe is probably gone.

Keefe on purpose sabotaging leafs he wants to go work for the pens

 

[Stephen]

He's just an easy target to focus on to avoid acknowledging the real problems.

You mean he's held accountable for being the third highest paid player (his demand) on the team?