Can you believe that the Leafs have now been an NHL joke and losers for over half of their existence..
Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 4-2
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Can you believe that the Leafs have now been an NHL joke and losers for over half of their existence..
Yeah obviously nobody can predict the future. What most people do figure though is that the team is showing the exact identical problems they've shown the last 8 years which has resulted in garbage. I get it you were sort of all in on the whole Keefe being the entire problem and how Berbue is going to transform the entire team but it just hasn't been the case at all.
You can't look at this last stretch of games and think that the team is just going to magically elevate their play to a cup-worthy level in the postseason.
We are judging them based on what happens in games 5,6, and 7 of the post season and it's a fair judgement because they've lost every year except for one. Based on past precedent this team will fail again likely in the most embarrassing fashion possible as well. You're positivity is a fantasy based solely around you're love of the team and not grounded in anything factual whatsoever.
Top 5 or 10 protected is relevant if you're Buffalo or Chicago, but can you see Toronto dropping that far in the next two years?
Yep.
I decided to spend a lot less time on watching them and following them here this season. I'm just not overly interested after seeing the same thing year after year.
If the opponent really wants to beat the Leafs, they do. There's no will to win baked into this team.
We thought that same thing this time last year, but remarkably it was more of the same.
Islanders were in a much worse spot than us when Lou arrived. They’ve been wildly more successful in that time period than us with a fraction of the skill and resource.
The inmates run the asylum now due to the “buddy buddy” approach and they feel entitled to these huge salaries due to that. A strong leader would have checked that behaviour and/or moved on the the culprit(s).
Marner and Tavares walking isn't going to make Matthews and Nylander instantly become players who give it there all night in and night out who hate to lose. It's just not who they are as players. The only hope is to surround them with players who do hate losing who can also produce in the hope that they will elevate their play when it matters most.
I didn't suggest they should run it back. I'm suggesting we're kind of screwed.
You're talking about trying to start a rebuild the off-season after losing a star for nothing because the team was too stupid to make a move when they should have and, now, after just trading away two future firsts.
Matthews, Nylander and Rielly have trade protection. In Toronto (for some reason) that means they won't be moved.
You're talking about a non-option. It's too late for that.
This is the bed they made when they didn't make moves the last few times this team failed. We're getting close to a decade now.
We have two options:
1) Run it back (LOL)
2) Try and retool around Matthews/Nylander/Rielly while losing Marner for nothing (screams into nearest pillow) and going into a thin UFA class with the cap skyrocketing and what seems like a growing trend towards players avoiding Canada.
If they take option 2, maybe we can start a rebuild in a couple years (barring Washington level success or something).
Hope is in short supply.
I agree.
But what is the alternative? Tell the fanbase that your captain decided that the 4-nations was the most important thing to him in 2025?
Matthews was obviously told that if he is injured he couldn’t go. And has been roughing out for the year. Due to optics, he’s still playing - but it’s clear as day he’s hurt.
Inmates running the asylum. We can thank dubas for that behaviour and Shanny for enabling it.
If you take a look at a few of my earlier posts in this thread I've basically said the exact same thing. You and I are pretty much in complete agreement.
I'm getting there already. It has been the exact same shit since 2018(I give them a pass for 2017), it's no longer entertaining.
Weren’t Marleau and Thornton really good players, and decent in the playoffs?
I don’t think the problems with this core is lack of trying, my eyes tell me it has more to do with physical ability.
I’m amazed Woll hasn’t injured his groin yet, goaltending has been the bright spot thus far imo…….
Perhaps Marner and JT moving on to greener pastures will inspire the remaining overpaid divas to ask to be traded, it’s not the worst idea imo…….
For a superstar at his level, his low urgency game and inability to meet any important head to head moment is just extremely disappointing.
Bros been sayin the Leafs are the best team in the atlantic, will win the atlantic etc for years now. Hes rarely ever right on his prediction for teams around the league yet always thinks so highly of the Leafs lol.
Pretty sure at the beginning of the year he was goin on about how Vasi is still ass and hes cooked now etc. The guy has literally been the 2nd best goalie this year
I've always sorta thought this year was a "transition" year ans next year they do some damage... But even like this, watching them play , whether it's a losing skid at the worst time or shit imploding isn't fun. We need to find a way to defund MLSE and not have major corporations in charge of a blue collar hockey team. (What once was back before all this bullshit corporatism, but unfortunately, corps are (actually.. have taken over the world. They're already ruined music with live Nation... End rant. Let's all go get our Timmies and Uber eats and Amazon shit and bow down to our corporate Over Lords
(How's that for a crazy morning rant)
(How's that for a crazy morning rant)
what if we act like they have won just a single round in 8 yrs?
Completely agree, after losing to the Habs was the time to make changes yet hete we are…….
