Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 3-1 To VGK

[PromisedLand]

Awful game. Samsonov was the only reason it was close.

Please stop playing Clifford. Please.

Yea... dressing Clifford was the reason Leafs sucked tonight....

 

[Cleetus]

Yea... dressing Clifford was the reason Leafs sucked tonight....

like I mean how you can point the blame on Clifford and everyone else gets a pass, wow that pushing some weird agenda. Clifford played 6 minutes and change lmao!

 

[SprDaVE]

Yea... dressing Clifford was the reason Leafs sucked tonight....

He was a reason for sure. Might as well have played 11 forwards. Inserted to be physical and tough, looked smaller than Malgin.

The whole team sucked.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

I am sick and tired of Matthews and Marner. They should be embarrassed but they ain’t. Good night.

 

[Stephen]

Matthews has been winning puck battles/board battles. Puck goes in the offensive zone if it is not on Matthews' stick it is out of offensive zone in a jiffy.

Also, they are taking away the Matthews shot on PP; so Leafs need to do something different except they have two muffins in marner/rielly on the PP; Rielly doesn't evven have a slapper; if I was Matthews I'd be frustrated with my linemates.

Winning puck battles is kind of the minimum level of contribution though.

 

[TIGERCOOL]

Don't know what to say about this one. The defensive breakdowns were brutal... But then no adjustments. Zero.

Engvall should be done as a Leaf. Jarnkrok has been disappointing tbh.

Starting to feel like the same team that quit on Babcock. They aren't playing for Keefe. I don't believe in panicking less than 10 games into the season but I expected some growth from that Tampa series, and certainly some urgency.

Tavares/Willy/Robertson/Sammy were the only players for us tonight. Everyone else needs to get to work and stop sulking, because I can't see Dubas firing his buddy.

 

[1specter]

They've had 3/7 no show sleepwalk games this year in Vegas, Montreal and Arizona. So the small sample size of the season and ratio of bad hockey is not a positive.

Even the Ottawa game was not a good showing. Samsonov kept them in it while they sleepwalked for most of the game and then woke up at the end.

 

[HolyCrap]

Well said. That about sums it up. I feel bad for all of you stayed up late to watch this nonsense.

I watched with only one eye open. It didn’t help much.

 

[MattySnipes]

Can't win too many games not showing up to play periods, and giving up so many odd-man rushes. Good or bad opponent.

Great to see JT come back to play.

 

[Canadian Finn]

anyone catch what Edmonton did after McDavid left the game?

(the answer, they outshot the Pens 26-4 in the second period).

 

[PromisedLand]

Winning puck battles is kind of the minimum level of contribution though.

Once you win the puck and you are covered you pass the puck and get open. Matthews does that and puck goes out of the offensive zone more often than not b/c marner/bunting suck at maintaining possession of the puck in the o-zone. Once both marner/bunting get pressured they cough up the puck faster than a grade 2 kid bullied by a fat kid

 

[capfit9]

This core will NEVER get it. period.

KILLER INSTINCT.

 

[killer1980]

7 games and these guys haven't played 60 minutes yet... And I mean total.

 

[1specter]

Also worth noting that the Leafs have conceded the first goal of the game 5/7 games this season.

 

[killer1980]

Top Line needs to be men.

Haven't you heard?

 

[LeafalCrusader]

I’d move Nylander up with Matthews next game and put Marner with Tavares.

. The grown men won't stand to be separated.

 

[Stephen]

Once you win the puck and you are covered you pass the puck and get open. Matthews does that and puck goes out of the offensive zone more often than not b/c marner/bunting suck at maintaining possession of the puck in the o-zone. Once both marner/bunting get pressured they cough up the puck faster than a grade 2 kid bullied by a fat kid

No excuses. He's the reigning Hart and Lindsay champ and playing like Mark Scheifele.

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

7 games in and Matthews has 1 tip goal.... Need more from him. Do you break up the only good line in Robertson - JT - Nylander to try and save the first line? Not sure, but I am worried that Matthews and Marner wont take to kindly to being split up. Might be the final nail in Keefe's coffin.

 

[saffronleaf]

how do the leafs manage to start late in each period? one thing to start late for the game, but each period?

reminds me of those three hour univ lectures with the break in between, some of us manage to be late for both segments

 

[killer1980]

Was a good game up until a certain point.

And then came the opening face-off. I hate when that happens.

 

[Menzinger]

Matthews is generating a decent amount of shots especially at even strength but can seem to bury anything. Marners looks rougher, definitely a slow start to the season for him

 

[PromisedLand]

No excuses. He's the reigning Hart and Lindsay champ and playing like Mark Scheifele.

Man one person can only do so much in hockey. Linemates need to show up to and not cough up possession of the puck; keep cycle going until lanes open up.

If Marner was making league minimum I'd agree with you, with Marner making 11 AAV losing puck/board battles and then coughing up the puck to get out of o-zone is unacceptable. Marner has been trying all the fancy BS that he needs to shut down and simplify the game. I don't call out Bunting as much b/c his caphit isn't crazy

 

[Gilmour1996]

I’d move Nylander up with Matthews next game and put Marner with Tavares.

Or move Robertson up and Bunting down. That way you won't have to see grown men cry.

 

[Stephen]

how do the leafs manage to start late in each period? one thing to start late for the game, but each period?

reminds me of those three hour univ lectures with the break in between, some of us manage to be late for both segments

As a group it just seems like they often like to see how much they can win by doing the bare minimum. They just don't have a burning desire to kick the crap out of anyone and put in a hard effort. Then they get embarrassed. And then they play hard when they need a redemption. Once they get that big win, they revert to slacker mode. Rinse and repeat, same story since they got Babcock fired in 2019-20.

 

[killer1980]

What's this with Mathews on the point on the PP. How many goals has he scored with his slapshot? That's all he's been doing lately. I believe he's saving himself for those big U.S. $$$$ next year.