Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 2-1

[Guided by Veseys]

I hope McDavid and MacKinnon skate circles around him.

My guess is he looks fantastic. If he doesn't, we'sa in trouble!

Always seemed like Sundin had an extra gear that he saved for Team Sweden. Wonder if Matthews will be the same.

 

[34]

Honestly. The play will be more wide open so he’ll likely be flying out there.

I bet you are right. He will likely lead the tournament in goals. Then he will come back to the leafs and be the same slow lazy player, We have seen all season.

 

[Mr_Fun]

I’m sorry but did Matthews play with Marner tonight?

You guys can’t use the Marner bullshit excuse for Matthews right now. They aren’t even playing together. Matthews isn’t engaged right now for whatever reason. That’s on him, not his linemates. At 13 million, he should be dominating right now. There shouldn’t even be a conversation about who’s on his right wing. Stop making excuses for the guy. Goalless in 6!

Like I said with Reilly, he will start flying again. But right now, he’s a boat anchor.

 

[PromisedLand]

I’m sorry but did Matthews play with Marner tonight?

You guys can’t use the Marner bullshit excuse for Matthews right now. They aren’t even playing together. Matthews isn’t engaged right now for whatever reason. That’s on him, not his linemates. At 13 million, he should be dominating right now. There shouldn’t even be a conversation about who’s on his right wing. Stop making excuses for the guy. Goalless in 6!

you are making a claim as if Matthews can only play "off the rush"; using one game to make a claim on the entirety of the player is lame

on a large sample size it is pretty obvious that it is marner who has to play off the rush because he can't 1) play body, 2) cycle 3) dump and chase

Domi was a f***ing passenger and the D-pair that played most with mattews line was freakin benoit-myers

and yes matthews did play with marner the entire 3rd period and marner was a freakin' JOKE

 

[francis246]

lol I'm surprised we don't see "Thanks, Marner!" bumper stickers by now.

Inflation is up, Thanks Marner! Snowing outside? Thanks Marner!

It’s the go to excuse, we lost tonight cause Marner is back in the line up. Matthews can’t score cause Marner doesn’t play physical even though, they don’t play on the same line!

 

[Mr_Fun]

Superb owl party as Willie's tomorrow night. Everyone is welcome.

I thought it was last night.

 

[wingman75]

you are making a claim as if Matthews can only play "off the rush"; using one game to make a claim on the entirety of the player is lame

on a large sample size it is pretty obvious that it is marner who has to play off the rush because he can't 1) play body, 2) cycle 3) dump and chase

Domi was a f***ing passenger and the D-pair that played most with mattews line was freakin benoit-myers

and yes matthews did play with marner the entire 3rd period and marner was a freakin' JOKE

They were both equally awful tonight.

 

[Leafs98]

still not hyped for the tournament whatsoever. Wish the Leafs had a tuesday night game instead.

 

[wingman75]

Always seemed like Sundin had an extra gear that he saved for Team Sweden. Wonder if Matthews will be the same.

We know Willy does!

still not hyped for the tournament whatsoever. Wish the Leafs had a tuesday night game instead.

I look at it like an Olympic type break.

Will get to see some of the best players in the league for 7 games.

I don't mind the break, feels like we all need a bit of a mental rest lol

 

[HolyCrap]

Im not overrreacting because of the loss at all but I don’t think this team is a contender. They are slow and their bottom six is not deep to chip in.

The team has never been a cup contender with this version. Just a playoff contender. One win after the first round.

 

[1specter]

Told you @Evilhomer we will never win in Vancouver doesn't matter how bad or injured their team is

 

[Stephen]

They were both equally awful tonight.

I'd say Marner was more awful than Matthews, but does it really matter...

Marner just looked like he had amnesia and had no idea what was going on or how to even handle a puck. Matthews just looked like his feet weren't in the game, he wasn't going to dig in and pucks were rolling away from him.

The Domi era looks like it should come to a close. Max came in last year and played with a nice edge and looked like he could have some nice chemistry with Matthews, but this year it just looks like he just doesn't have it.

 

[Ports]

None of 34, 16, 88 or 91 played even average tonight. Our best forwards were 23 and 29 ffs.

Agree with you, as much as everyone hates it, Mitch drives this team's success. He's been way worse than he was tonight, but also did pretty much nothing to drive offence.

In order for that to be the case they would need to have had success in the playoffs. That’s the issue.

 

[Gabriel426]

VAN defended very hard, no open spaces. If you wanted to get to the scoring areas you really had want it. We got our answer, and it's been the same answer we've always gotten.

Today is pretty much playoffs hockey and our boys disappointed once again. Pretty sure some will say, it is depth scoring or we need better goaltending….

 

[BallardEra]

Domi:

First 22 games: 0 goals
Next 3 games: 3 goals
Last 22 games: 0 goals

 

[Ports]

No Leafs didn't lose 2-1 tonight.

OEL and one ALONE lost the game.

HE lost it nobody else.

When you take an incredibly stupid penalty that you didn't need to take and it leads to the game winning goal you are SOLELY responsible for the loss.

That's what OEL did. HE lost the game because he took ANOTHER stupid penalty.

He takes a A LOT of those.

Tough to win if you only score one goal.

 

[wingman75]

I'd say Marner was more awful than Matthews, but does it really matter...

Marner just looked like he had amnesia and had no idea what was going on or how to even handle a puck. Matthews just looked like his feet weren't in the game, he wasn't going to dig in and pucks were rolling away from him.

Right, so I think that is what each of their mentally checked out lazy game looks like.

It was pretty clear that was not an honest effort from most of the guys. But when the top players look that bad it's just more evident and frankly unacceptable.

 

[Nineteen67]

VAN defended very hard, no open spaces. If you wanted to get to the scoring areas you really had want it. We got our answer, and it's been the same answer we've always gotten.

When you and your teammates lack speed it’s hard to play.

 

[torontoblood]

When was the last time the leafs beat the Canucks in Vancouver? I knew we would lose tonight.

Games against Ottawa and Vancouver are automatic losses for the Leafs. No matter how good we are and no matter how bad they are, they will always find a way to win against us. They take the games against the leafs very seriously.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

 

[wingman75]

In order for that to be the case they would need to have had success in the playoffs. That’s the issue.

Playoffs? We're not talkin about playoffs here mate.

 

[PromisedLand]

They were both equally awful tonight.

fair enough but i'd argue that marner sucked even more.

did you not see marner give away the puck like a moron on the 2 PPs we had to start only to get the puck cleared?

just look at Marner against bruins series without matthews to really see what marner is really worth IMO

 

[SprDaVE]

I didn't mind the effort. Pretty back and forth. Hopefully the break does them good.

 

[Stringer Bell]

Matthews might be doing us a favour by only signing for 4 years. With injuries and play like this, what kind of player will he be at 31?

 

[Gabriel426]

I'd say Marner was more awful than Matthews, but does it really matter...

Marner just looked like he had amnesia and had no idea what was going on or how to even handle a puck. Matthews just looked like his feet weren't in the game, he wasn't going to dig in and pucks were rolling away from him.

The Domi era looks like it should come to a close. Max came in last year and played with a nice edge and looked like he could have some nice chemistry with Matthews, but this year it just looks like he just doesn't have it.

Honestly, it is hard to not think our top guys were partying last night in Vancouver bc the whole team was just lifeless and lacked that jump.