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wingman75 said:
All I saw was a soft Marner, out of position, turning the puck over. Also felt if you took him out of the lineup, there would have been no difference. Probably an exaggeration. He was decent on the PK, didn't like his game in the offensive zone, to cute, as always.
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He was good defensively, but if Matty isn't scoring Mitch's offensive game is negligible.
 
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Antropovsky said:
Berube liked the effort...but thought the team floated around the perimeter too much (didnt want to say too cute...but did). Not enough players going to the net and wanting rebounds.

Lol... poor Leaf stars really had it too good with Keefe. Sorry boys, funs over! Berube is gonna make you go to the net eventually, no matter how many shots you get on net.
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It looks like Marner, Tavares, and Matthews all got to the tough spots and got chances, but Nylander didn't.

Maybe Berube will end up being hard on Nylander.
 
arso40 said:
that line? are you joking?? our top line was even worst you choose the second line to single out your names noted i will taking nothing you say serious starting...........NOW
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No, I think he's mostly right. Other than "Nylander was soft" (he seems to have a real hate on for Willy) it's pretty accurate - JT and Domi were useless and Willy was basically having to play by himself.

The top line wasn't particularly good, but at least it was a line.
 
Ianturnedbull said:
The overreactions are crazy
tonight. Holy smokes.

I was at a concert tonight. Glad i didn't watch this one.
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Its just frustrations than overreaction
Most of us waited a long time again to watch hockey
A lot of our players were total no shows. Nylander, Domi, Tavares, Robertson
 
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notbias said:
Nylander sucked this game.

I still think Nylander on the 3rd line is ideal, still, give him 20 minutes a night, but have him drive a line by himself.

He is probably the best at generating chances on his own.

Give Tavares two players who are hard-working and will forecheck hard, and let them be the line that works for their goals.
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He was playing with a serious handicap last night.

I agree, except that if Willy's line is playing 20 minutes and JT's line shouldn't be getting more than 13 or 14, why would you call the Nylander line the third?
 
So much of this teams offensive prowess seems to be a product of sheer force of talent. Nylander and Tavares have been linemates for years and have put up big numbers beside each other but I wouldn’t say they have any real chemistry. Hell I’d say the chemistry between Matthews and Marner is also overstated but those two are attached at the hip when they’re both healthy regardless of coach or GM. The powerplay has had years where it was top five in the NHL only to whither in the playoffs. Even when the numbers are good the Leafs with the man-advantage are hard to watch. The five-man unit of Rielly, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Matthews just always leaves you wanting more. It feels like they should be more lethal out there when up a man and yet they just aren’t.

It’d be nice if this team would really shake things up by breaking up these stale combos and positions since they won’t remove the players themselves. Unfortunately it looks like it’ll be the same old same old.
 
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theTTC said:
If losing rocks your world, champ, who am I to judge you? Take all the solace you need in Leafs "outplaying" the winners.

Pick up a purple participation ribbon on your way out. I'm in it to win the division and win the Cup.
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Did you expect them to go 82-0? Sometimes you will just lose games you shouldn't have. They play every game like they did tonight they likely win 50+.
 
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arso40 said:
you ever heard of the matty effect your playing with the best center on your team and the best left winger on your team against an ahl team are you being serious?
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The funny part is that he is comparing a line with Matthews and Knies to one with Tavares and Domi, and pretending that the only difference is Mitch and Willy.

That's like saying the bumper on a Lamborghini is better than the bumper on a Yugo, because it goes faster.
 
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wingman75 said:
Pretty sure they will trade him, and soon.

Funny, I feel Timmins moves the puck better and more importantly is better in the defensive zone along the boards under pressure. I'm tired of our team getting hemmed in our zone because Timmy got dominated down low.

I expect Timmy and Kampf to be traded soonish.
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If Timmins was actually better why wasn't he ever played over him in 2 years leading into this season? 3 preseason games should not supersede a much larger sample size. There is not one defenseman on this team that is perfect. Rielly has good offensive instincts but a weak shot and is one of our worst defensive players, McCabe is probably our most well rounded defenseman but can be undisciplined, Tanev is amazing defensively but has injury problems, Benoit can't move the puck, Timmins is trash defensively and injured all the time, etc. Liljegren does a lot of good things to soften the blow of his weak board play and net front presence and basically every stat over the last 3 years proves it.
 
Puckstuff said:
This franchise will never understand that Tavares-Nylander doesn't work.

It's been 6 years and it's never worked.

But now it will?

What a joke.
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It didn't really work several years ago (they seemed to produce in spite of each other), but with JT getting worse and worse while Willy gets better and better it's pretty much past being a joke.
 
Jimmy Firecracker said:
So much of this teams offensive prowess seems to be a product of sheer force of talent. Nylander and Tavares have been linemates for years and have put up big numbers beside each other but I wouldn’t say they have any real chemistry. Hell I’d say the chemistry between Matthews and Marner is also overstated but those two are attached at the hip when they’re both healthy regardless of coach or GM. The powerplay has had years where it was top five in the NHL only to whither in the playoffs. Even when the numbers are good the Leafs with the man-advantage are hard to watch. The five-man unit of Rielly, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Matthews just always leaves you wanting more. It feels like they should be more lethal out there when up a man and yet they just aren’t.

It’d be nice if this team would really shake things up by breaking up these stale combos and positions since they won’t remove the players themselves. Unfortunately it looks like it’ll be the same old same old.
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I agree. When will the tongue bath the media have given Berube stop and base it on actual facts? The thing with this team is Auston and Mitch run the show. They want to play together bc it helps their stats. They want all the PP time and screw a 2nd unit. Berube hadn’t shown that he is willing to stand up to giving them carte blanche.
 
fahad203 said:
1 goal in last 9 games. After he hit 69 he stopped scoring
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To be fair, most usually stop scoring after hitting 69. It takes a while to recover, lol.

Antropovsky said:
Berube liked the effort...but thought the team floated around the perimeter too much (didnt want to say too cute...but did). Not enough players going to the net and wanting rebounds.

Lol... poor Leaf stars really had it too good with Keefe. Sorry boys, funs over! Berube is gonna make you go to the net eventually, no matter how many shots you get on net.
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That’s pretty much the diff between Panthers Vs Bruins and us tonight. Panthers players just kept crashing the net even when up 4-1
 
So the Leafs limp into the season with a whimper instead of a roar.

No matter how you look at it the Leafs didn't start the season the way needed to placate nervous fans. A $50M power play that couldn't score. And a penalty kill that couldn't stop the worst power play unit in the league.

Along with a starting goaltender they just gave a risky extension already being hurt.

Obviously nobody could have predicted Woll getting injured. Not before the very first game anyway. Woll's as durable as single ply wipe so it was only a matter of time before he would get hurt again.

He settled that matter not even a single game into the season.

Anyone who thought this team was gonna be some sort of defensive dynamo under Berube was mistaken. All I saw was a team that couldn't score (like me in high school). The whole plan appears to be skate in circles in the defensive zone and let the other team shoot until it bounces off a body.

The richest franchise in hockey rewarding the greatest fans in the world for their loyalty tonight
 
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I am curious to see how many other teams still attempt the back-pass-through-the-neutral-zone zone entry, it is like a bit these days with the Leafs. OEL had that sick dangle in the first period moving through the neutral zone on the PP and then promptly stopped and slung it backward.
 
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Timmins takes bad penalties. real rough game for Robertson. I liked Knies with Nylander in the playoffs and would keep that line together. Domi kept trying to dish to his wingers on entering the zone not seeming to understand that they had to stop at the blueline to not be offside. dumbass penalty too but that's life with our beautiful Toronto boy. Lorentz was great, 4th line was great, Stolarz great, OEL looked excellent too. wish I'd put a bet on Montreal winning. and the Oilers got rinsed, which is nice.
 
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