GDT: Leafs in Carolina 7pm ET, SN, SNO, SNP, TVAS, BSSO, ESPN+, NHL LIVE

[Turin]

Anyone else remember when this team used to be fun to watch? They used to skate and make plays 2-3 years ago. WTF is this shit now? like has anyone stopped to think about this?

They lost Hyman, Kapanen, Johnsson, Brown. The leadership of the team was guys like Marleau and Hainsey. Those contracts would only have worked with a growing cap, with a flat cap the Leafs lost all their depth/ability to replace them. Leafs are currently icing like 4 players who wouldn’t have cracked their 2019 roster.

 

[BodaciousBeefBazooka]

I was told he's good as Denault by some around here

I think they were the same guys who use to hang out with Rob Ford.

 

[Peiskos]

This is a lottery team.

 

[ULF_55]

They can't even complete passes

 

[Stonehands1990]

Essentially when they were a Babcock team
That's when they had Kapanen, AJ, Kadri, Hyman, Ennis

Lots of skill and speed there along with some grit

God I miss Kadri

Also Brown. Never should have signed Tavares. There was literally no issue with forwards

 

[saffronleaf]

haven't seen that matthews wrist shot in so long, not sure if it's doable anymore

 

[makbeer]

Not with Freddy in net.

LOL. You think we have the goalie advantage with Campbell and Mrazek? It's at best a wash.

 

[PromisedLand]

Reminder……Kerfoot still sucks and provides no value while on the ice.

better than kadri

 

[TMLeafer]

At least Matthews busted it back that time.

 

[Stonehands1990]

Team structure is killing them.

Seeing how organized Carolina is exposed it

 

[keonsbitterness]

To deny any efficacy of advanced stats is to be an old cranky man and deny reality.

Reality is subjective.

Subjectivity is objectivity.

There are no atheists in foxholes.

 

[MSZ]

We need Babcock

Uh...No.

Just blow this whole thing up. A full rebuild is necessary.

 

[fahad203]

Campbell shouldn't have any problem with that but he did

 

[SoVi3t]

They can't even complete passes

Every time we try to enter Carolina's zone, it seems like nobody knows what the other is about to do.

 

[Gabriel426]

I think from now on, a must for all Leafs draft picks is shooting skills. IF they don't have a shot, nomatter how good their IQs, skatings, passing, physical....it won't matters.

 

[PromisedLand]

We need Babcock

Babcock only works if there are "Gud Pros" or else.....

 

[Havoc]

LOL. You think we have the goalie advantage with Campbell and Mrazek? It's at best a wash.

Not if Fred is healthy. They need Fred to have one leg for it to be a wash

 

[Bomber0104]

The eye test is filled with personal bias. All humans have it. Advanced stats are supposed to help fill the gaps bias creates. The problem is when people then assume that advanced stats are also the be all and end all.

How much personal bias? Can we measure how error-prone it is? Is it like 5% error-prone? 10%?

Most expected goals models only show a moderate-to-weak correlation with what it's attempting to describe.

Even if personal biases affect assessment slightly, it's still a whole heck of a lot better than the who-shoots-the-puck-closer-to-the-net blogger stat models we constantly see copy and pasted.

 

[socko]

Carolina plays so well defensively that the usual Leafs play hard for the last 10 minutes of the game is likely going nowhere.

 

[Dangles McGavin]

This is a lottery team.

They certainly look terrible.

But they can't be quite as bad as they look, right? RIGHT??

 

[Stephen]

haven't seen that matthews wrist shot in so long, not sure if it's doable anymore

I wonder if we might see long term problems post wrist surgery? Everything is off about his game so it’s hard to tell.

 

[Coachcorner]

Marner, Matthews and Tavares for EXAMPLE just have to WANT IT MORE. Just like other "star" Players in other teams do. Pretty f***in simple if you ask me or Don.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

Is Mark Hunter available?

For what, he was terrible.

 

[keonsbitterness]

They should be called alternate stats.

Nothing advanced about them.

Down south they'd be called Deep State Stats.

 

[BigGulpsEh]

Shanny and dubas will be gone before the new year I hope.