GDT: Leafs in Carolina 7pm ET, SN, SNO, SNP, TVAS, BSSO, ESPN+, NHL LIVE

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Some people can. Fighter like OV will get the job done at some point. I don't see that same mental fortitude on the Leafs. Marner is a crying muffin man, JT just doesn't have it. Matthews would rather laugh while being rag dolled vs getting angry and Nylander will look like a top 10 winger some nights and Casper during others.
And the supporting cast is vanilla. So little character and jam. This isn’t a likeable team.
 
The Leafs need to watch the 2017 playoff series against the Caps again - that seemed to be the last time they weren't buying into all of their own hype.

They weren't supposed to be amazing back then, and look at the effort they generated, and the heart they showed.

Then they started hearing how awesome they are....
 
Is this the end?
What happened to the structure the team had last season or even last week? IT seemed like the players just gave up and don't even want to play anymore.
They realized the whole playoff hockey thing is tough and mean so they're staying 1 step ahead - don't make the playoffs.
 
The Leafs need to watch the 2017 playoff series against the Caps again - that seemed to be the last time they weren't buying into all of their own hype.

They weren't supposed to be amazing back then, and look at the effort they generated, and the heart they showed.

Then they started hearing how awesome they are....
Man that team was f***ing awesome.
 
their contracts will be up before we are good again if we went that way...you think AM and WN would stick around? heck naw they'd bolt to a more competitive team ASAP...not a shot at them but im sure neither wants to waste rheir prime in a rebuild

They should be the last two this team tries to trade away. They are the last two players left who are actually good. There are two years left to make a decision on them.
 
Honestly this team is f***ing pathetic. What makes this d-core think they can pinch this often is actually hilarious. How many f***ing odd man rushes before they pull the plug on pinching? This can’t be a directive from the staff. It’s actually f***ing insane
 
Carolina doesn’t have any players making 11 million let alone 3 of them and they seem to do ok

Yes and the way to success isn't by trading even more of your good players and keeping the crap that is left. This is the equivalent of giving up in Hyman.
 
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