Proposal: Leafs - Habs (Chiarot, Allen)

[Habs Halifax]

Regular season Chariot is worth a second rounder but playoff Chariot is easily worth a first. If you watched much of Montreal’s playoff run last year he was very integral to it. He played a shut down role and was very physical. He led the team in ice time numerous times. Some team will cough up a first for him.

He's a tank that can skate and he is very mature at age 30. You are not wrong about the playoffs but in fairness, he's been very good in the regular season and especially this year too. He gets bad value cause fans look at where he came from, not where he is today. Reality. Kind of the same thing said towards Petry a few years ago when he was just starting to make a name for himself as a legit top pairing quality. Not saying Chiarot will be top pairing, but he is above average top 4D at this point where when the Habs acquired him, he was bottom pairing type. Another late bloomer, it happens

 

[The Podium]

Lol no

 

[Stuart Little]

Why would the Leafs do it? Essentially the same player except Muzzin has 2 more years of control

Leafs would do it - because 5.6 M committed to Muzzin could potentially be an anchor

 

[General Fanager]

Would the Habs do

Muzzin for Chiarot straight up?

no

The Habs want picks and/or prospects

 

[ole ole]

no

The Habs want picks and/or prospects

Just not from the Leafs. We trade Chairot elsewhere ,for less if we have to.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Just not from the Leafs. We trade Chairot elsewhere ,for less if we have to.

Problem solved. The Canadians can trade him for less to the Leafs or to any other team else. Montreal can also keep him and try to resign him

 

[ole ole]

Problem solved. The Canadians can trade him for less to the Leafs or to any other team else. Montreal can also keep him and try to resign him

Don't want to trade him to the Leafs PERIOD.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Don't want to trade him to the Leafs PERIOD.

You don't? Why not.

 

[Scintillating10]

To Leafs:
Chiarot, Allen (50% retained)

To Habs:
Ritchie, Mrazek, 1st 2022, 2nd 2022, 2nd 2023

Rental this year for leafs and cap flexibility to sign Campbell. Mrazek is good for our tank, and Ritchie can fetch a mid-round pick maybe at the deadline next year.

Yay or nay?

Friedman have Chiarot returning a first. Since we are retaining 50% it's at least worth a throw in like worth Richie. So, leaves 2 seconds for Allen at 50% retained and we take on M contract. It's close to fair value. But does Montreal help Toronto? Habs could them to Florida for similar return

 

[JustAHabFan]

You don't? Why not.

Why should we try to help the Leafs? Physicality is what the Leafs was missing in the playoff.

 

[hotpaws]

as a Leaf fan i'd do it

Ritchie and Mzarek have negative value , we need an upgrade on D and clear cap for next season , this trade accomplishes that .

Dubas dealt a 1st plus for a washed up injured Foligno last t/d so this would be considered a home run for him , lol .

 

[Leaf Fans]

Why should we try to help the Leafs? Physicality is what the Leafs was missing in the playoff.

You shouldn't. The Leafs have no intention of helping the Canadians. In fact, I don't think any trade is made in the NHL for the purpose of helping the other team.

 

[ole ole]

You shouldn't. The Leafs have no intention of helping the Canadians. In fact, I don't think any trade is made in the NHL for the purpose of helping the other team.

.Hab fans do not want to help the Leafs. That's why we would rather take less for Chairot and send him elsewhere.
Also i think Chairot would rather go to a team that has a shot of getting by the 1st rd.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

I wouldn't give up a 2nd in this trade let alone two, AND a 1st? Lmao

TOR is getting rid of 2 cap dumps, and getting back a physical dman and a capable backup goalie with retention

what's so funny?

 

[Leaf Fans]

.Hab fans do not want to help the Leafs. That's why we would rather take less for Chairot and send him elsewhere.
Also i think Chairot would rather go to a team that has a shot of getting by the 1st rd.

Habs fans want to help the Habs. They need picks for the draft. It has nothing to do with helping the other team. Every team that makes the playoffs, has a chance of getting by the first round.

 

[domiwroze]

TOR is getting rid of 2 cap dumps, and getting back a physical dman and a capable backup goalie with retention

what's so funny?

Don't worry
Some of Leafs fans believe that Kerfoot, Holl and a 2nd will land them Hintz + Klingberg

 

[Gaud]

I wouldn't give up a 2nd in this trade let alone two, AND a 1st? Lmao

A capable 4th D and a solid (maybe the best in the league right now) backup goalie at 50% retained isn't even worth a 2nd?

 

[Morgs]

A capable 4th D and a solid (maybe the best in the league right now) backup goalie at 50% retained isn't even worth a 2nd?

There's a capable 4th D in this trade? The only one I see wouldn't even be the Leafs 7th best defenseman. I sure as hell wouldn't spend a 2nd on a backup goalie when we didn't even spend that much on our starter. Not to mention why would we spend a 2nd on a backup goalie?

 

[A1LeafNation]

Allen sucks and we adding picks lol.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Habs fans want to help the Habs. They need picks for the draft. It has nothing to do with helping the other team. Every team that makes the playoffs, has a chance of getting by the first round.

It's true that every team that make the playoff has a chance to win the first round. But that is not applicable to the Leafs. Did the Leafs win the first round the last 10 years? The answer is No. 5 first round loss in the last 10 years.

 

[JustAHabFan]

There's a capable 4th D in this trade? The only one I see wouldn't even be the Leafs 7th best defenseman. I sure as hell wouldn't spend a 2nd on a backup goalie when we didn't even spend that much on our starter. Not to mention why would we spend a 2nd on a backup goalie?

Yeah, every Leafs defenseman are so great that they are incapable of winning a single playoff round.

 

[Mersss]

Allen sucks and we adding picks lol.

Of course youa re. You're also sending out 2 cap dumps along with those crap picks.

Hell Chiarot is worth a 1st + a 3rd on his own. No way are Habs trading Allen for Ritchie and Mrazek lol

 

[John Mandalorian]

Of course youa re. You're also sending out 2 cap dumps along with those crap picks.

Hell Chiarot is worth a 1st + a 3rd on his own. No way are Habs trading Allen for Ritchie and Mrazek lol

Where is this coming from?

 

[Sniper99]

So then we just never try to win during their tenure here ? Might as well trade them and rebuild

so then we look somewhere else instead of a division rival.

 

[Mersss]

Where is this coming from?

See Savard last year, and all the rumours of him easilly getting a 1st at the TDL.

Habs will just keep him, trade him elsewhere for a 1st and a 3rd like Savard, and enjoy another 1st rd exit from the Leafs once again