Leafs fined 100 K for traveling on December 26 - Keefe fined for protecting his players

[rojac]

Am I the only one who finds the whole "Wah! Wah! We're so persecuted" act by Leafs fans to be embarrassing?

Incidentally, NHL fine money goes to the NHL Foundation. The mission statement of the NHL Foundation: "The NHL Foundation seeks to bring positive change by investing in relevant solutions to cultural and economic challenges and build healthy and vibrant communities through the sport of hockey."

 

[Alamo Leafer]

Well, it could've been worse

 

[Gallagbi]

Am I the only one who finds the whole "Wah! Wah! We're so persecuted" act by Leafs fans to be embarrassing?

Incidentally, NHL fine money goes to the NHL Foundation. The mission statement of the NHL Foundation: "The NHL Foundation seeks to bring positive change by investing in relevant solutions to cultural and economic challenges and build healthy and vibrant communities through the sport of hockey."

Meh, theres a pretty clear bias in how this teams been treated. From suspensions to fines to rule changes.

I dont think its anti Leaf as much as the league doing their best to show how impartial they are and over correcting to do it.

 

[rojac]

Meh, theres a pretty clear bias in how this teams been treated. From suspensions to fines to rule changes.

I dont think its anti Leaf as much as the league doing their best to show how impartial they are and over correcting to do it.

Honestly, I think that the Leafs were the only team this year to travel on the 26th and thus were the only team fined. As far as I can tell, Philadelphia is the only other team to have violated this rule in the past and was also fined $100,000.

My impression is that the info about how and when teams travel is all public. If so, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the job of someone at the NHLPA offices to monitor this ino and inform the NHL of any violations.

I also think Keefe's outburst was childish. He knows the rules and should be adult enough to keep his behaviour within what the league expects.

 

[Menzinger]

Honestly, I think that the Leafs were the only team this year to travel on the 26th and thus were the only team fined. As far as I can tell, Philadelphia is the only other team to have violated this rule in the past and was also fined $100,000.

Funnily enough, of all the travelling teams who went on the 26/27th I believe the Leafs were the only one to win.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I also think Keefe's outburst was childish. He knows the rules and should be adult enough to keep his behaviour within what the league expects.

There was nothing about Keefe's justified anger that exceeded what the NHL has consistently been fine with before.

If you don't realize the Leafs are treated differently, you've got your head in the sand.

Also, while the travel stuff is technically against the rules, expecting teams to fly out at midnight to a different country on the day of their game is ridiculous and a failure of scheduling, and a 100k fine for leaving an hour earlier out of safety and human decency just exposes how messed up the NHL's priorities are. Technically all the players on all of the other teams also had to travel on the 26th in order to get to their flights, but because they weren't in the air yet, it's fine? Because we didn't make our players sit around for an hour and a half while we had clear weather to leave, we get punished? It's so petty and stupid, and benefits nobody. It's applying rules for the sake of applying rules, instead of applying rules for their purpose.

 

[nsleaf]

Holy crap, they broke the rules, live with it. Unless someone can show only the Leafs were fined while other teams also broke the same rules, it's just a bunch of speculative whining about nothing.

 

[Maple Leaf]

There was nothing about Keefe's justified anger that exceeded what the NHL has consistently been fine with before.

If you don't realize the Leafs are treated differently, you've got your head in the sand.

Also, while the travel stuff is technically against the rules, expecting teams to fly out at midnight to a different country on the day of their game is ridiculous and a failure of scheduling, and a 100k fine for leaving an hour earlier out of safety and human decency just exposes how messed up the NHL's priorities are. Technically all the players on all of the other teams also had to travel on the 26th in order to get to their flights, but because they weren't in the air yet, it's fine? Because we didn't make our players sit around for an hour and a half while we had clear weather to leave, we get punished? It's so petty and stupid, and benefits nobody. It's applying rules for the sake of applying rules, instead of applying rules for their purpose.

They missed the high stick
Let the ref know
They aren't going to overturn it
Screaming and cursing the entire game doesn't help us

 

[Throw More Waffles]

If anything, this highlights what I was saying at the time when Holl got a penalty for "not getting out of the way". I've quite literally never seen a player get a penalty for "not getting out of the way". On pretty much any play ever there are players bumping into each other while neither have the puck. Look at the battles in front of the net. People beating the absolute shit out of each other, neither have the puck. It's never called interference.

I've never seen a rule that states "If two opposing players skate into each other, neither getting out of the way, the ref shall flip a coin the losing player shall receive a penalty."

What was strange was how many posters (leaf fan and non-leaf fan alike)were trying to argue that it IS in fact a penalty to "not get out of the way". I just don't understand it.

So what happened tuesday is what's normal. That is NEVER a penalty. I think Keefe was (correctly) just furious at the hypocrisy.

Interesting enough, on the reddit thread, almost every post is saying that it is not a penalty. But on the Holl reddit post, almost every post was saying it IS a penalty. I just don't get it.

 

[stickty111]

NorthStar

People should read this article from CJ. Very interesting and informative.

 

[rojac]

Funnily enough, of all the travelling teams who went on the 26/27th I believe the Leafs were the only one to win.

Not even close. The home teams won 6 of the 11 games. The visitors won the other five,

 

[Dekes For Days]

They missed the high stick
Let the ref know
They aren't going to overturn it
Screaming and cursing the entire game doesn't help us

The entire game? Talk about exaggeration. It was one minute, and the same thing countless coaches have done before him.
The same referee that that took the unprecedented action of waving off a game-tying home goal in game 7 of our playoff series due to a supposed "pick", ignored an identical pick that led to a goal in this game, and then, with the game on the line, ignored an obvious in-play 4 minute high-sticking penalty that left Keefe's player bleeding from the mouth and requiring stitches.
I'd say some words are warranted.

 

[IPS]

I also think Keefe's outburst was childish. He knows the rules and should be adult enough to keep his behaviour within what the league expects.

Are you new to hockey or something? Coaches flip out like that all the time.