Rumor: Leafs considering stripping John Tavares of captaincy (per Kypreos)

[Antropovsky]

So far ALOT of talk about big changes.

 

[therealkoho]

It's a good topic, but maybe change the title. It sounds like they are ritually ripping the C off him in a pre-game ceremony. Taking his badge, taking his gun, removing his stripes, getting him to take off his Captains bars...

The stripping sounds like punishing Tavares for poor leadership and court marshaling him.

while the Colonel takes his cavalry sabre and breaks it over his knee! Now he's branded scorned as the one who ran, what do you do if you're branded and you know you're a man?

Branded

 

[colchar]

Tavares should pass it on because Matthews is the face of the franchise and is ready.

Ready? And what, exactly, are you basing that on?

It would also symbolize more of the culture change this team is trying to implement and turning the page on the Dubas/Keefe era.

Wait, what???

 

[Brown Dog]

Dewar is essentially league minimum calibre. If he were a UFA, I don't see him getting more than $850,000.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Ready? And what, exactly, are you basing that on?




Wait, what???

First point, Matthews has grown and matured a lot since his security guard incident years ago. He is very clearly the alpha of this team and go to guy. He’s the teams best player offensively and defensively and is the main reason this team is a “contender.”

Second point, John was given the captaincy when Dubas was still GM and just shortly before Keefe was named HC. It has coincided with most of Dubas’ time as GM and Keefe’s entire coaching tenure. John’s captaincy has resulted in one playoff series win and countless disappearing acts by him specifically. His PPG in the postseason is abysmal for what he’s being paid and outside of one clutch moment he hasn’t willed the Leafs anywhere like other captains across the league.

Removing the ‘C’ would bookend his mediocre term as captain. Giving the ‘C’ to Matthews would signify a change in the organization and would help symbolize this team moving on from the Dubas/Keefe era to the Treliving/Berube era.

 

[notbias]

Just what we need as a captain...a guy as embarrassingly soft as the old one:



None of "the core" are captain material.

Is this different than McDavid laughing at Bennett punching him in the face or McDavid crying to the refs that Tkachuk punched him?

Would you strip him of the captaincy?

I'm more concerned about how a captain leads in the dressing room, on the bench, and between the whistles than random incidents like this.

Give it to Reaves if that is your concern.

Ready? And what, exactly, are you basing that on?

He's been our best player in virtually every playoff series.

I personally don't really care who the captain is, but relative to the other players on the team, Matthews has been the best and plays a complete 200 foot game.

 

[Gabriel426]

He has been here for 6 yrs and despite the talents and team, only managed to lead the Leafs to ONE first round series win. Plus not being the best player in any of the 7 series in 6 years.

Why is he the Captain again? Is it because he came home at UFA?

He has been here for 6 yrs and despite the talents and team, only managed to lead the Leafs to ONE first round series win. Plus not being the best player in any of the 7 series.

Why is he the Capt? Is it bc he came home when he hits UFA?

 

[rumman]

No thanks - Florida will be under water in ten years.

Okay Greta……..

Has to go to Nylander.

He can talk to the press.
He can tell his teammates to grow up.
He committed the rest of his career to the team.

No one else meets that criteria.

Love me some vintage Grand Funk Railroad………

 

[rumman]

Come see it at low tide ...

Speaking of water, has Jyoti let you have a shower yet? I remember well all the westerner’s making fun of Lastman calling in the army for a blizzard, but not being able to fix a water main in less than a month has got to top that……….

Just what we need as a captain...a guy as embarrassingly soft as the old one:



None of "the core" are captain material.

Goofy smiles while being mauled, yup that’s what I look for in a leader…….

 

[-DeMo-]

He has been here for 6 yrs and despite the talents and team, only managed to lead the Leafs to ONE first round series win. Plus not being the best player in any of the 7 series in 6 years.

Why is he the Captain again? Is it because he came home at UFA?

He has been here for 6 yrs and despite the talents and team, only managed to lead the Leafs to ONE first round series win. Plus not being the best player in any of the 7 series.

Why is he the Capt? Is it bc he came home when he hits UFA?

just out of curiosity do you believe if Matthews was given the C what 5 years ago instead of Tavares that we would have had different results?

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Is this different than McDavid laughing at Bennett punching him in the face or McDavid crying to the refs that Tkachuk punched him?

Would you strip him of the captaincy?

I'm more concerned about how a captain leads in the dressing room, on the bench, and between the whistles than random incidents like this.

Give it to Reaves if that is your concern.

? McDavid blatant sucker punch on Tkachuk



I guess you're referring to when Tkachuk headlocked him from behind and punched him? I guess that's the same thing to the number kids

Matthews will be a coward until he decides to stop being one, but he just quit on the team in their most recent games so we may be waiting a while.

 

[notbias]

? McDavid blatant sucker punch on Tkachuk

Thanks for the post?

It doesn't change the fact he whined to the ref after getting punched and also didn't want to fight Bennett so he laughed... not captain material according to some.

I don't care personally, just pointing it out for the poster that thinks that disqualifies them.

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Thanks for the post?

It doesn't change the fact he whined to the ref after getting punched and also didn't want to fight Bennett so he laughed... not captain material according to some.

I don't care personally, just pointing it out for the poster that thinks that disqualifies them.

He didn't do any of that, please stop making stuff up.

 

[Gabriel426]

just out of curiosity do you believe if Matthews was given the C what 5 years ago instead of Tavares that we would have had different results?

Honestly no.
Bc our Core 5 just don’t have the Alpha mentality.
It is not a coincidence that Dubas and Tre are bringing in guys who got a strong presence in the locker room.

 

[notbias]

He didn't do any of that, please stop making stuff up.

Feel free to find a better video (I can't), but it happened...

The announcers even mentioned it.

 

[notDatsyuk]

just out of curiosity do you believe if Matthews was given the C what 5 years ago instead of Tavares that we would have had different results?

Only if he got it because we didn't sign Tavares.

 

[myleafs]

Has to go to Nylander.

He can talk to the press.
He can tell his teammates to grow up.
He committed the rest of his career to the team.

No one else meets that criteria.

My first thought was no, but the more I think about it, I think I like it.

Let's list the reasons he should be captain
1. He lives year round in Toronto...no
2. He speaks to the media and defends the team...no
3. He greets new team mates with a text, email and let's them live in his house...no
4. He defends team mates on the ice...no
5. He communicates well...no
6. He is first on the ice and last to leave every practice...no
7. His team mates love him and defend him on and off the ice...no
8. He is always enthusiastic on the bench fir his team mates...no

I mean, when you put it that way.

 

[34]

No question this is Auston’s team, but wait until Tavares contract expires.

 

[-DeMo-]

Honestly no.
Bc our Core 5 just don’t have the Alpha mentality.
It is not a coincidence that Dubas and Tre are bringing in guys who got a strong presence in the locker room.

right so are you advocating none of them get the C then? because a big part of your post was how Tavares hasn't lead us anywhere and if the same core is here then none of them deserve the C?

C on a jersey is the most irrelevant thing in sports btw. only time it really matters imo is for Jersey sales to the public.

 

[The Shrike]

No thanks - Florida will be under water in ten years.

5000 is the current estimate.

 

[notDatsyuk]

5000 is the current estimate.

A certain amount of sarcasm in my comment, but considering that the usual 'land in Florida I'll sell you cheap' is swampland, maybe not too far off.

 

[ULF_55]

Okay Greta……..


Love me some vintage Grand Funk Railroad………

After a few ... happy and sad at the same time.

 

[ULF_55]

Speaking of water, has Jyoti let you have a shower yet? I remember well all the westerner’s making fun of Lastman calling in the army for a blizzard, but not being able to fix a water main in less than a month has got to top that……….


Goofy smiles while being mauled, yup that’s what I look for in a leader…….

Indoor no restrictions now.

But we have to save the shower water for the gardens.

 

[Gabriel426]

right so are you advocating none of them get the C then? because a big part of your post was how Tavares hasn't lead us anywhere and if the same core is here then none of them deserve the C?

C on a jersey is the most irrelevant thing in sports btw. only time it really matters imo is for Jersey sales to the public.

Domi gets the C,lol.

What’s the point of having the C if the guy wearing it chokes in the big moments?

 

[-DeMo-]

Domi gets the C,lol.

What’s the point of having the C if the guy wearing it chokes in the big moments?

they all choked or have choked year over year, the only reason there's a C or an A on the jersey is to speak to the ref's