Confirmed with Link: Leafs bring back Malgin on a 1 year deal, $750k

[RoyalCitySlicker]

If you look at the short-comings of this team, year after year, how does Malgin address any need? Depth? He didn;'t sign here to sit or to go to the Marlies. A good 3rd/4th line guy? Right!

Wanna bet? He'll be a tweener between the Marlies and Leafs....will fill in for injuries or what not.

And if he shows well, maybe he will get a more regular opportunity.

The Marlies roster needs to be filled out too, and while I don't really like the guy (nor do I know much about him other than his name being a running joke) he seems like hes fine as a 13/14/15 forward.

The amount people freak out over the smallest things is really peculiar.

Wonder how many other fanbases are losing their poop over their team signing a guy for the league minimum as an injury replacement.

 

[francis246]

This might fly over certain posters heads.

Haha at the end of the day it’s a forum. If you come on here expecting the nicest people I’d be a fool. I think we all want this team to win badly. So the opinions will differ

 

[CelticDruid]

Haha at the end of the day it’s a forum. If you come on here expecting the nicest people I’d be a fool. I think we all want this team to win badly. So the opinions will differ

I agree.



Some posters take this forum far too seriously

 

[kb]

Wanna bet? He'll be a tweener between the Marlies and Leafs....will fill in for injuries or what not.

And if he shows well, maybe he will get a more regular opportunity.

The Marlies roster needs to be filled out too, and while I don't really like the guy (nor do I know much about him other than his name being a running joke) he seems like hes fine as a 13/14/15 forward.

The amount people freak out over the smallest things is really peculiar.

Wonder how many other fanbases are losing their poop over their team signing a guy for the league minimum as an injury replacement.

And I make notation of that and people feel compelled to freak out and argue that??? Like come on.....it's depth for the Leafs or it's buried - or back to Switzerland. Zero risk, only reward.....and people are getting emotionally invested in arguing over how big of a waste it is?

If he replaces Kase, is that at good signing at league minimum? I say yes.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Wanna bet? He'll be a tweener between the Marlies and Leafs....will fill in for injuries or what not.

And if he shows well, maybe he will get a more regular opportunity.

The Marlies roster needs to be filled out too, and while I don't really like the guy (nor do I know much about him other than his name being a running joke) he seems like hes fine as a 13/14/15 forward.

The amount people freak out over the smallest things is really peculiar.

Wonder how many other fanbases are losing their poop over their team signing a guy for the league minimum as an injury replacement.

I wonder how many fanbases have lost in the first round 6 years in a row, are as soft as jello, and bring in a guy like Malgin to help

I agree.



Some posters take this forum far too seriously

You're a "hater" or a "miserable person" to some if you question any Dubas move or are frustrated by the direction he is taking them

 

[RoyalCitySlicker]

I wonder how many fanbases have lost in the first round 6 years in a row, are as soft as jello, and bring in a guy like Malgin to help

Again, he's not the solution nor is he being touted as such. I think you're smart enough to know the two aren't related.

You can be mad that they've lost 6 years in a row - I am too!

But to think that somehow Malgin was brought into be the solution either means you're trolling or you don't really understand how rosters are made up between AHL/NHL. Personally, I'm pretty sure it's option 1.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Again, he's not the solution nor is he being touted as such. I think you're smart enough to know the two aren't related.

You can be mad that they've lost 6 years in a row - I am too!

But to think that somehow Malgin was brought into be the solution either means you're trolling or you don't really understand how rosters are made up between AHL/NHL. Personally, I'm pretty sure it's option 1.

Yeah you're right. I'm just a troll for questioning any Dubas move. Perhaps we can pry Petan out of whatever league he's playing in for further roster construction

 

[kb]

I haven’t called anyone names, or questioned their hockey knowledge. Or even trashed Dubas. He’s probably one of the better GM’s we’ve had. I state my opinion, engage in discussion like a sensible human and I try and see both sides.

And I wasn't talking about you, to be honest with regards to name calling. I'm just saying there are many that do.

I think that respectful discourse without name calling is great, and we need a heck of a lot more of it.

But this is how it seems to go.

"I hate this move."

Perfect, people have every right to have an opinion. But then it is in 99% of cases followed up with "Doooomnbass is a moron for this".

That second part automatically took respectful discourse off the table because of the childishness. And when people ignore the childishness and bring it back to the player by saying "it's no big deal - just depth a signing.", they are invariably met with "All you Doobie Doobie Dubas supporters can't admit when he makes a huge mistake, and you always have to be his apologist bla bla bla...."

Ah, no - that's not it.....it's not about the GM. It's about a depth signing that has no risk or downside.

That's how it goes. Every thread, all day long.

 

[francis246]

And I wasn't talking about you, to be honest with regards to name calling. I'm just saying there are many that do.

I think that respectful discourse without name calling is great, and we need a heck of a lot more of it.

But this is how it seems to go.

"I hate this move."

Perfect, people have every right to have an opinion. But then it is in 99% of cases followed up with "Doooomnbass is a moron for this".

That second part automatically took respectful discourse off the table because of the childishness. And when people ignore the childishness and bring it back to the player by saying "it's no big deal - just depth a signing.", they are invariably met with "All you Doobie Doobie Dubas supporters can't admit when he makes a huge mistake, and you have to be his apologist"

Ah, no.....it's not about the GM. It's about a depth signing that has no risk or downside.

That's how it goes. Every thread, all day long.

Oh 100%, it’s on both sides. I actually think you’re one of the more reasonable posters. So it’s not directly directed at you, but yes on both sides it’s annoying. There’s a group that hates everything Dubas does and let’s be honest, he’s done a lot of good. And there’s a group that thinks Dubas does no wrong or doesn’t make mistakes. When the reality is every GM makes mistakes, it’s up to them to fix it.

Again I don’t think the signing is bad. I think I struggle with understanding the type of team Dubas is currently trying to build. I think last year it was evident he tried to build a balanced team. Maybe this year he’s going back to what he believes will win which is speed and skill. Got no problems with it. Just be nice as a fan to understand the identity of the team. I think we all want to feel connected to the team

 

[paulhiggins]

Not sure why Kyle is spending millions filling Marlies and tweeners spots on the first day of free agency when he should be prioritizing the Leafs roster only. He has all summer to work on Marlies and tweeners. Glad he got some goalies though for the big club.

 

[Menzinger]

And I make notation of that and people feel compelled to freak out and argue that??? Like come on.....it's depth for the Leafs or it's buried - or back to Switzerland. Zero risk, only reward.....and people are getting emotionally invested in arguing over how big of a waste it is?

If he replaces Kase, is that at good signing at league minimum? I say yes.

Not to mention even if he does make the team it's not even that hard to see how he could potentially improve things. If the guy hits 30 points he will have handily surpassed Spezzas output from last season

 

[justashadowof]

I see him as a depth tweener but he won't be a tweener. He'll play in the NHL or he'll go back to Switzerland if he passes through waivers. I'm pretty sure a Swiss born star makes pretty nice money in the Swiss league. This is his attempt to earn a bigger NHL contract and who can blame him? It's a short window to make this big money in NA and the KHL money is now largely cut off I assume.

 

[kb]

Oh 100%, it’s on both sides. I actually think you’re one of the more reasonable posters. So it’s not directly directed at you, but yes on both sides it’s annoying. There’s a group that hates everything Dubas does and let’s be honest, he’s done a lot of good. And there’s a group that thinks Dubas does no wrong or doesn’t make mistakes. When the reality is every GM makes mistakes, it’s up to them to fix it.

Again I don’t think the signing is bad. I think I struggle with understanding the type of team Dubas is currently trying to build. I think last year it was evident he tried to build a balanced team. Maybe this year he’s going back to what he believes will win which is speed and skill. Got no problems with it. Just be nice as a fan to understand the identity of the team. I think we all want to feel connected to the team

Oh for sure. I'm thinking that Malgin is either going to be top-9, or he's going to be back in Switzerland. If he can replace Kase at a cheaper price and have similar impacts for half the price, that would be excellent. Having said that, I think that the team needs to add tenacity and relentless forechecking in the bottom 6.

I think you will see a couple more adds to bring functional grit next. One on D, and perhaps one or 2 more in the F. At least that is my hope......

 

[CelticDruid]

And I wasn't talking about you, to be honest with regards to name calling. I'm just saying there are many that do.

I think that respectful discourse without name calling is great, and we need a heck of a lot more of it.

But this is how it seems to go.

"I hate this move."

Perfect, people have every right to have an opinion. But then it is in 99% of cases followed up with "Doooomnbass is a moron for this".

That second part automatically took respectful discourse off the table because of the childishness. And when people ignore the childishness and bring it back to the player by saying "it's no big deal - just depth a signing.", they are invariably met with "All you Doobie Doobie Dubas supporters can't admit when he makes a huge mistake, and you have to be his apologist"

Ah, no.....it's not about the GM. It's about a depth signing that has no risk or downside.

That's how it goes. Every thread, all day long.

The simple solution is to just scroll on by and not bother in engaging in the conversation.

 

[Leafsfan74]

doombas has said the lineup is wide open. at this point regular dudes off the street might get PTOs

Don't tempt me. I can hardly skate, but, if I find my old rusty Bauers, I might make my way down and at least throw a few bodychecks in hopes of leaving an impression. Hey baseball does it.

If I take some hits though I'm in trouble.

 

[kb]

The simple solution is to just scroll on by and not bother in engaging in the conversation.

'Scrolling on by' tends to allow things to amplify and take on a life of it's own and soon it's nothing but echo chambers because if everyone just "scrolls on by", there is no more discussion or discourse.

Many (most?) of the good posters have abandoned this site because of this very reason. If you don't hate every move, you are 'labelled'.

I get the sentiment on scrolling on by.....but that sentiment is exactly how websites (and free thought) die.

 

[McSnypsky]

Just curious if anyone knows, is Malgin getting that much less in the swiss league even though he lead his team in points? Cause why would you come here for 750k?

 

[RoyalCitySlicker]

Yeah you're right. I'm just a troll for questioning any Dubas move. Perhaps we can pry Petan out of whatever league he's playing in for further roster construction

good lord.

if you don't like the signing...fine. what would you suggest they do to fill out the marlies roster? bunch of big dudes who can't play for the league minimum? or just put some nhl players down there at 2-3M pe

not a lot of critical thinking coming from your side at the moment.

 

[ShaneFalco]

good lord.

if you don't like the signing...fine. what would you suggest they do to fill out the marlies roster? bunch of big dudes who can't play for the league minimum? or just put some nhl players down there at 2-3M pe

not a lot of critical thinking coming from your side at the moment.

He's not playing on the Marlies Slick

 

[RoyalCitySlicker]

He's not playing on the Marlies Slick

oh. sorry kyle.

 

[kb]

He's not playing on the Marlies Slick

If he doesn't make the team, he's either Marlies or back to Switzerland.

What is your angle on this? This is such a ridiculous narrative. Take the L and move on....

 

[crump]

Welcome back Denis Magain

 

[Tak7]

A closer look shows less depth on the R side for competition, where both these guys play.
I’m more confident about mixing and matching than you might be. But there’s 5 Marlies pushing for a couple jobs before these two - and then any more adds - which should improve the competition.

Yeah. No, there isn't 5 Marlies pushing for spots - Robertson and Joey Anderson perhaps, but from what I can see, the others aren't anywhere close.

I don’t understand leafs management. They need to give the young guys opportunities higher up in the line up. Respectfully we had a shit 4th line last year what do you expect those young players to do on it.

They gave Abruzzese a full extended look with Matthews and Marner and also Tavares. He didn’t look spectacular. Robertson gets a couple of shifts with Willy and Tavares and then back to the fourth line. It’s just shit development all around. I don’t understand it. What more does Robertson have to do to get an extended look?

What "more" ?

He can "start" by trying to look like an NHL player - his cameo last year showed clearly that he's not ready for it yet. That's okay, he doesn't have to be yet.

But this idea that the Leafs are "holding" back Robertson is just false.

Also, what "young guys" that deserve opportunities, aren't getting them yet?

 

[ShaneFalco]

oh. sorry kyle.

Yeah he's goig to agree to sign here from the Swiss league to play with the Marlies!? They'll Barbanov him. But hey, what do I know about roster construction Slick!?

 

[deprw]

This critique is hard to get. We have asset that have been developing in one of the best euro leagues there is and seems to be one of the marque forwards there at the moment. If not the best outside of the KHL. He was nearly good enough as 23yo and now comes back as better player. If he adds compete here great, if we don't have spot and can trade him for minor asset great. If we waive him, nothing is lost.

It's not Malgins fault that he was traded for Marchment, who wasn't as 25yo the player he is now. So we basicly say that we shouldn't have given even Marchment a chance, because he was over the hill already, so why for the f***s sake we whine about that trade anyway.

If this pushes Robertson back the AHL for few months it's probably good thing for both players, if after this Robertson makes the team he earned it.