Confirmed with Link: Leafs bring back Malgin on a 1 year deal, $750k

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Reading between the lines, the Malgin & Gaudette moves really indicate to me that they have very little faith in having any help pushing from the Marlies to the big club in camp.
no one really knocking on the door it seems .. our development in marlies has been pretty crap
 
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no one really knocking on the door it seems .. our development in marlies has been pretty crap

I don’t understand leafs management. They need to give the young guys opportunities higher up in the line up. Respectfully we had a shit 4th line last year what do you expect those young players to do on it.

They gave Abruzzese a full extended look with Matthews and Marner and also Tavares. He didn’t look spectacular. Robertson gets a couple of shifts with Willy and Tavares and then back to the fourth line. It’s just shit development all around. I don’t understand it. What more does Robertson have to do to get an extended look?
 
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I don’t understand leafs management. They need to give the young guys opportunities higher up in the line up. Respectfully we had a shit 4th line last year what do you expect those young players to do on it.

They gave Abruzzese a full extended look with Matthews and Marner and also Tavares. He didn’t look spectacular. Robertson gets a couple of shifts with Willy and Tavares and then back to the fourth line. It’s just shit development all around. I don’t understand it. What more does Robertson have to do to get an extended look?

Score in the swiss league appearently
 
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Having Malgin and Robertson on the fourth line, with a right wing with size, would be interesting. It would certainly have a lot more offensive potential that last year.

Robertson is a waste on the fourth line. He's a second line player or completely a misfit elsewhere.
 
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Imagine actually believing that signing players like Malgin and Gaudette is some signal that you lack confidence in your farm players. Imagine actually being worried that a Malgin could block a young player from making them team? I mean, if you aren’t better than these depth insurance signings, you don’t deserve the spot. These guys are for internal comp, depth and insurance. You don’t go into a season gifting roster spots, without some sort of backup plan. When and if a Robertson/Anderson/McCann/Seney/Holmberg/Steeves/Abruzzese is ready, they’ll take the spot they deserve. In the meantime, a guy like Robertson has been given a few games, and told what he needs to work on for the best success of the player and team.

All this panic and hysteria over Denis F Malgin for crying out loud. Everybody has, and needs cheap replacement level depth and insurance players. Everyone.
 
Imagine actually believing that signing players like Malgin and Gaudette is some signal that you lack confidence in your farm players. Imagine actually being worried that a Malgin could block a young player from making them team? I mean, if you aren’t better than these depth insurance signings, you don’t deserve the spot. These guys are for internal comp, depth and insurance. You don’t go into a season gifting roster spots, without some sort of backup plan. When and if a Robertson/Anderson/McCann/Seney/Holmberg/Steeves/Abruzzese is ready, they’ll take the spot they deserve. In the meantime, a guy like Robertson has been given a few games, and told what he needs to work on for the best success of the player and team.

All this panic and hysteria over Denis F Malgin for crying out loud. Everybody has, and needs cheap replacement level depth and insurance players. Everyone.

No one’s panicked over Malgin. We tried him, didn’t work, people don’t wanna see it again. It wasn’t a fit the first time around. There’s nothing wrong with that. If it works out the second time cool, if it doesn’t hopefully they move him out for an asset. No problems with that.

I don’t get why people feel the need to tell others how to feel about signings. Some people in the fanbase want to see change, they want to see bottom six guys who can score but play physical. Leafs management has talked about change and addressing these needs but then they go out and sign players that are the exact opposite of those changes. So obviously it’s going to cause a bit of a stir among the fans. Dubas needs to get his messaging straight. If he wants a skilled based team then he needs to just bet his career on that. Stop going back and forth. Be confident in how you want to build your team and just do it, instead of pandering to the fans and then doing the opposite. Just my two cents.
 
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I don’t understand leafs management. They need to give the young guys opportunities higher up in the line up. Respectfully we had a shit 4th line last year what do you expect those young players to do on it.

If they had a shit 4th line last year why is everyone crying about losing Kase Spezza Blackwell?
 
If they had a shit 4th line last year why is everyone crying about losing Kase Spezza Blackwell?

Who’s everyone? The fourth line was our biggest issue all season. We couldn’t get any true consistent production out of it. Hopefully Dubas gets it right this year.
 
Who’s everyone? The fourth line was our biggest issue all season. We couldn’t get any true consistent production out of it. Hopefully Dubas gets it right this year.

Well check out Mess' Work in Progress thread. (And any other thread for that matter).
 
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thank god, this fixes everything!

Did Dubas do this to show the original Marchment trade was worth it since Malgin is still a NHLer?
This joke so funny you had to copy it in the main boards too?

Marchment at 25yo (Malgin's current age):
NHL 4 GP 1 P
AHL 130 GP 72 P

Malgin
NHL 192 GP 60 P
AHL 28 GP in 26 P

..and Malgin hasn't even been in NA for 2 years now.

He was 23yo when he played those 8 games with 9min TOI/G for the Leafs. He's developed quite nicely since, I guess most of you you'll be surprised.
 
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I like this signing a lot. I always thought he had more to him. Whats so bad about this?
 
These signings happen every year for every team. I feel like that James Franco "first time"? Meme everytime people complain about depth signings. Guys, Malgin is a depth guy. He's here when players get injured. Not every free agent they get is a superstar.
 
I don’t understand leafs management. They need to give the young guys opportunities higher up in the line up. Respectfully we had a shit 4th line last year what do you expect those young players to do on it.

They gave Abruzzese a full extended look with Matthews and Marner and also Tavares. He didn’t look spectacular. Robertson gets a couple of shifts with Willy and Tavares and then back to the fourth line. It’s just shit development all around. I don’t understand it. What more does Robertson have to do to get an extended look?
Maybe a different coach……..?
 
No one’s panicked over Malgin. We tried him, didn’t work, people don’t wanna see it again. It wasn’t a fit the first time around. There’s nothing wrong with that. If it works out the second time cool, if it doesn’t hopefully they move him out for an asset. No problems with that.

I don’t get why people feel the need to tell others how to feel about signings. Some people in the fanbase want to see change, they want to see bottom six guys who can score but play physical. Leafs management has talked about change and addressing these needs but then they go out and sign players that are the exact opposite of those changes. So obviously it’s going to cause a bit of a stir among the fans. Dubas needs to get his messaging straight. If he wants a skilled based team then he needs to just bet his career on that. Stop going back and forth. Be confident in how you want to build your team and just do it, instead of pandering to the fans and then doing the opposite. Just my two cents.
Dubas doesn't know what he wants any more. After his initial philosophy failed, he doesn't know what he's trying to achieve. He doesn't know how to support the big 4. He doesn't know what identity each line needs/has.

Every offseason it's the same thing. He's making it up as he goes along. Very few of his signings make sense.
 
Any other player and this 3rd opportunity at an NHL career happens in a 3rd organization. It's like we're pretending that original post-trade audition failure never happened. It's not even like it's a different coach or a different role awaits.
 
Interested to see what he’ll bring.
I’m guessing the math said he was a good pickup, be nice it were correct.
 
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I don’t understand leafs management. They need to give the young guys opportunities higher up in the line up. Respectfully we had a shit 4th line last year what do you expect those young players to do on it.

They gave Abruzzese a full extended look with Matthews and Marner and also Tavares. He didn’t look spectacular. Robertson gets a couple of shifts with Willy and Tavares and then back to the fourth line. It’s just shit development all around. I don’t understand it. What more does Robertson have to do to get an extended look?
If Robertson can't beat Malgin for a roster spot, that is information we need to know while he still has trade value as a top prospect. Shipping him out asap in a package for something good if he can't beat out Switzerland's finest for a scoring depth role. (Obviously more complicated than this, will have to see how Robertson fails to make it in this scenario etc)
 
I noticed when Dubas was rhyming off forwards who could get make the big team yesterday he didn't say Steeves. Not sure if that was an oversight or a conscious omission.
Wow. I haven't seen the interview but I'm surprised. Might have been an oversight. Don't see why he wouldn't have named him
He had excellent production in his first AHL season this year. I didn't think he looked out pf place in his 3 game stint with the Leafs. He plays with pace.
 
Dubas doesn't know what he wants any more. After his initial philosophy failed, he doesn't know what he's trying to achieve. He doesn't know how to support the big 4. He doesn't know what identity each line needs/has.

Every offseason it's the same thing. He's making it up as he goes along. Very few of his signings make sense.
He is lost in the forest and can’t find his way out
 
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No risk signing at minimum salary. Malgin was Switzerland's leading scorer at the World Cup with 4 more points than NHL players Nico Hischier, Pius Suter, and Timo Meier.

Last played in the NHL at age 23. Apparently has become more rounded defensively and even PK'ed for the Swiss at the WC. Issue moving forward will continue to be how effective he can be playing through the physicality in the NHL at his stature.

If he doesn't make the opening lineup and be an effective player he might have enough value to be flipped for a low-round pick to a bottom feeder, or he'll be buried in the AHL, or will go back to Europe. No downside to taking this bet. No risk, considerable upside.

Also wonder how the organization views Herzog, whose rights we also still have.
 
Dubas doesn't know what he wants any more. After his initial philosophy failed, he doesn't know what he's trying to achieve. He doesn't know how to support the big 4. He doesn't know what identity each line needs/has.

Every offseason it's the same thing. He's making it up as he goes along. Very few of his signings make sense.

The last two off seasons, he’s had a much clearer plan.

Ritchie - you could see what he wanted to do, but adding a lazy player to add energy was a horrible idea.

Kampf was a great role signing. Bunting and Kase were smart gambles on guys to fill special roles.

This year he added Gaudette and Aube-Kubel. Very clear plan, but forced into doing got on a tight budget.

He seems to be figuring out the forward group, but is too tight to the cap to really address it the way it’s needed.
 

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