Confirmed with Link: Leafs bring back Malgin on a 1 year deal, $750k

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Dubas may live to regret bringing Malgin back for a second try. It resurrects the discussion of a Dubas' trade most of us had forgotten. Here it is laid bare, brought out to the sunlight of day the hockey ideology of our nouveau urbanite hockey man. It's a master class self-own that takes away the recognition of other good things you've done (Jarnkrok looks like a nice player, the 4th liners seem robust and competent). While it's always an Achilles' heel to act like you've never made an error, it's a bigger error to double down on it instead of strategizing regarding it. The master stroke on this particular situation is to have not qualified the player allowing him to sign elsewhere. If he failed an NHL audition elsewhere, or he never received an audition elsewhere, it is only a player who didn't pan out during his time in Toronto. If he succeeded elsewhere then you are vindicated in your original interest in the player and your naysayers have to acknowledge your recognition of a potential talent.
 
Dubas may live to regret bringing Malgin back for a second try. It resurrects the discussion of a Dubas' trade most of us had forgotten. Here it is laid bare, brought out to the sunlight of day the hockey ideology of our nouveau urbanite hockey man. It's a master class self-own that takes away the recognition of other good things you've done (Jarnkrok looks like a nice player, the 4th liners seem robust and competent). While it's always an Achilles' heel to act like you've never made an error, it's a bigger error to double down on it instead of strategizing regarding it. The master stroke on this particular situation is to have not qualified the player allowing him to sign elsewhere. If he failed an NHL audition elsewhere, or he never received an audition elsewhere, it is only a player who didn't pan out during his time in Toronto. If he succeeded elsewhere then you are vindicated in your original interest in the player and your naysayers have to acknowledge your recognition of a potential talent.

He can be waived.
They can terminate his contract if he wants to go back overseas.
This really isn't an issue.
Like complaining about the vintage of wine on the Titanic.
 
He can be waived.
They can terminate his contract if he wants to go back overseas.
This really isn't an issue.
Like complaining about the vintage of wine on the Titanic.
The player being a contractual burden is certainly one thing my post was not about.
 
Probably just for Dubas' ego.

Guy took such an L on the Marchment trade he feels he needs to even the score.

Marchment has more goals than Malgin has shots on net this year :laugh: :clap:
5'9 guy who does absolutely nothing on the ice?
Small guy who is not a speedster?
Tiny bastard who cannot shoot or make plays?

YOU HAVE YOURSELF A CONTRACT YOUNG MAN
 
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...and yet here we sit after four games.

Number of goals scored against the Leafs, when Malgin is on the ice... zero. ZERO, none.

GF/60 while on the ice... 3.0

Of course there is more to the game, than actual results when someone is on the ice, and it's pretty small data... but he is far from the biggest problem on the team so far.

You want to look at issues, look at the whole fourth line, and Mo. That is where we should be addressing first.
 
5'9 guy who does absolutely nothing on the ice?
Small guy who is not a speedster?
Tiny bastard who cannot shoot or make plays?

YOU HAVE YOURSELF A CONTRACT YOUNG MAN

I think it is funny that the only thing even remotely true about Malgin out of everything you've mentioned here is that he is 5'9".
 
...and yet here we sit after four games.

Number of goals scored against the Leafs, when Malgin is on the ice... zero. ZERO, none.

GF/60 while on the ice... 3.0

Of course there is more to the game, than actual results when someone is on the ice, and it's pretty small data... but he is far from the biggest problem on the team so far.

You want to look at issues, look at the whole fourth line, and Mo. That is where we should be addressing first.

I am less worried about Rielly and Brodie TBH. He is suffering from a crooked number in a small sample size. There were some really bad turnovers by forwards and some really bad goals given up by our goalies which had little to do with either of our defensemen. Take those out and his numbers are more than fine.

Although I think Rielly can work with anyone except for an off-side Sandin so maybe give him Holl or Liljegren and let Brodie play with Gio or Muzzin?

Malgin hasn't been a problem at all. The man would have to go PPG for people to like him...
 
I am less worried about Rielly and Brodie TBH. He is suffering from a crooked number in a small sample size. There were some really bad turnovers by forwards and some really bad goals given up by our goalies which had little to do with either of our defensemen. Take those out and his numbers are more than fine.

Although I think Rielly can work with anyone except for an off-side Sandin so maybe give him Holl or Liljegren and let Brodie play with Gio or Muzzin?

Malgin hasn't been a problem at all. The man would have to go PPG for people to like him...

I don't want to derail this, but Mo has always been an issue, it's just his offense has been good enough to not worry too much about it. I think Mo needs a better shut down partner to be honest... I think that is where our target should be.

Agree on Malgin, that topic here.
 
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Dubas may live to regret bringing Malgin back for a second try. It resurrects the discussion of a Dubas' trade most of us had forgotten. Here it is laid bare, brought out to the sunlight of day the hockey ideology of our nouveau urbanite hockey man. It's a master class self-own that takes away the recognition of other good things you've done (Jarnkrok looks like a nice player, the 4th liners seem robust and competent). While it's always an Achilles' heel to act like you've never made an error, it's a bigger error to double down on it instead of strategizing regarding it. The master stroke on this particular situation is to have not qualified the player allowing him to sign elsewhere. If he failed an NHL audition elsewhere, or he never received an audition elsewhere, it is only a player who didn't pan out during his time in Toronto. If he succeeded elsewhere then you are vindicated in your original interest in the player and your naysayers have to acknowledge your recognition of a potential talent.
I think that's a bit much. He's a player on a league-minimum salary who can be waived and sent down (or lost) on a day's notice. Some upside and no downside risk here. If he works out -- then, great; if he doesn't --then, so what.

If the GM worries about what the fans are saying then he'll be one of them soon. Maybe that happens anyway.
 
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Leafs fans: We give up on players too soon.
Also Leafs fans: Let's give up on Malgin after 4 games when he has arguably outplayed our top line guys.

Tavares-Nylander played much better with him than without him thus far.

After last game, he has passed both Matthews and Nylander for ixG/60 at ES but was also passed up by Bunting, who had an insane game against ARI where he put up as much as he did in the other 3 games combined. So if he is a passenger, he is doing a pretty damn good job. He is also the top on the team in goals/60 at ES right now.

If anything, we should be looking to get him more ice time to see if he can keep up those numbers and turn it into more production.
Here I was thinking Malgin's looked absolutely useless since game 1 of the season.

But man that ixG/60 changes everything! What the hell are they doing taking him out of the lineup?!

Not even sure why you'd entertain signing a guy like Malgin (re-signing). What does he bring that's going to help this group?
It's obvious. This is a GM who's fighting for his job. He's pulling out all the stops to try and look good.
 
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I think it is funny that the only thing even remotely true about Malgin out of everything you've mentioned here is that he is 5'9".
You're trying to tell me Malgin is a speedster? What is he saving it for the playoffs?
He hasn't had a shot on net since the opening game, how's that howitzer of a shot treating you?
He's so trash he played less than 10 minutes in a game where we were generating zero offence.

He better sit out for Robertson vs Dallas
 

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You're trying to tell me Malgin is a speedster? What is he saving it for the playoffs?
He hasn't had a shot on net since the opening game, how's that howitzer of a shot treating you?
He's so trash he played less than 10 minutes in a game where we were generating zero offence.

He better sit out for Robertson vs Dallas
Or what?
 
Exactly.

Then you see where the real issue is!
Matthews will be ok. Best goal scorer in the world. Once he catches fire, he will leave the competition behind as he always does.

The other one is an AHL hockey player… no business being in the Leafs line up. Robertson deserves a legitimate shot to show what he can do.
 
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Matthews will be ok. Best goal scorer in the world. Once he catches fire, he will leave the competition behind as he always does.

The other one is an AHL hockey player… no business being in the Leafs line up. Robertson deserves a legitimate shot to show what he can do.

I have no problem giving Robertson an opportunity to see if he's improved over the past few months.

He might be ready to play in the NHL.

Hardly a guarantee, but like most prospects will get his opportunities.
 
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Yes, Malgin is the reason why we suck.

This team is a disaster, and whether we replace Malgin with Robertson or anyone else in our system, it wouldn’t make a difference.

Our goalies can’t make saves, our defence can’t defend, and our stars can’t score.

But it’s Malgin’s fault. This team needs to get their head out of their asses, or moves need to be made asap.

Everyone has become too complacent with whatever we are right now, and it’s obvious. Lack of effort, lack of execution.
 
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Yes, Malgin is the reason why we suck.

This team is a disaster, and whether we replace Malgin with Robertson or anyone else in our system, it wouldn’t make a difference.

Our goalies can’t make saves, our defence can’t defend, and our stars can’t score.

But it’s Malgin’s fault. This team needs to get their head out of their asses, or moves need to be made asap.

Everyone has become too complacent with whatever we are right now, and it’s obvious. Lack of effort, lack of execution.

Not sure anyone is blaming Malgin for the Leafs' losses.

Moreso ridiculing the GM for trying to shove him down our throats not once but in two consecutive seasons.
 
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Not sure anyone is blaming Malgin for the Leafs' losses.

Moreso ridiculing the GM for trying to shove him down our throats not once but twice.
We really couldn’t fit anyone else in that slot anyways. Malgin making $750K is the reason he was on the team instead of Robertson.

You can definitely blame Dubas for that, but I don’t think it has anything to do with him trying to justify the Marchment/Malgin trade - which yes, he epically lost.
 

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