Pyromaniac3
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ROR for Phaneuf would be a dream and would be a solid C option
Agreed, although more like a pipe dream....can't see it happening.
Coz that would be a garbage trade.
ROR for Phaneuf would be a dream and would be a solid C option
Agreed, although more like a pipe dream....can't see it happening.
Trading Phaneuf for a future #1C is the only thing that makes sense.
Anything less would be a step backward to me. Dion is still a good defencman. The bad seed accusations are silly. He is not. A media member who was in the room with him privately tweeted me, Dion is a good teammate, he just isn't a Captain for this team.
If we are going to part with Dion, a high draft pick is the only thing that makes sense.
Unless a team deals a top 6C to us, but given how scarce they are, drafting may be the only way to get one.
When the Dion deal comes down, I just hope a Center in one form or the other is part of the deal. To trade him for a winger or another D man is a waste IMO.
Don't be silly, it must be true, it was on Twitter!
Trading Phaneuf for a future #1C is the only thing that makes sense.
Anything less would be a step backward to me. Dion is still a good defencman. The bad seed accusations are silly. He is not. A media member who was in the room with him privately tweeted me, Dion is a good teammate, he just isn't a Captain for this team.
If we are going to part with Dion, a high draft pick is the only thing that makes sense.
Unless a team deals a top 6C to us, but given how scarce they are, drafting may be the only way to get one.
When the Dion deal comes down, I just hope a Center in one form or the other is part of the deal. To trade him for a winger or another D man is a waste IMO.
Please post this tweet......
Trading Phaneuf for a future #1C is the only thing that makes sense.
Anything less would be a step backward to me. Dion is still a good defencman. The bad seed accusations are silly. He is not. A media member who was in the room with him privately tweeted me, Dion is a good teammate, he just isn't a Captain for this team.
If we are going to part with Dion, a high draft pick is the only thing that makes sense.
Unless a team deals a top 6C to us, but given how scarce they are, drafting may be the only way to get one.
When the Dion deal comes down, I just hope a Center in one form or the other is part of the deal. To trade him for a winger or another D man is a waste IMO.
Trading Phaneuf for a future #1C is the only thing that makes sense.
Anything less would be a step backward to me. Dion is still a good defencman. The bad seed accusations are silly. He is not. A media member who was in the room with him privately tweeted me, Dion is a good teammate, he just isn't a Captain for this team.
If we are going to part with Dion, a high draft pick is the only thing that makes sense.
Unless a team deals a top 6C to us, but given how scarce they are, drafting may be the only way to get one.
When the Dion deal comes down, I just hope a Center in one form or the other is part of the deal. To trade him for a winger or another D man is a waste IMO.
It seems like you still don't understand what ails the Leafs. Defense was the biggest problem this season. If we get a good defender back and it is good value why not make the trade.
Phaneuf, Gardiner, Reimer, 1st for Malkin, 1st
book it, done. E4?
We have to add in my opinion. Or take a contract they don't want back.
We have to add in my opinion. Or take a contract they don't want back.
Phaneuf, Gardiner, Reimer, 1st for Malkin, 1st
book it, done. E4?
It seems like you still don't understand what ails the Leafs. Defense was the biggest problem this season. If we get a good defender back and it is good value why not make the trade.
Good defensive teams are a product of all 5 players on the ice being defensively responsible . It's not the sole responsibility of the d while the forwards float around looking to score .
Acquring a quality C that can maintain possession and is solid defensively is just as important as finding a solid blue liner .
Let the Malkin rumours fly eh ?
Yup, how about;
E. Malkin
D. Phaneuf
T. Bozak
N. Kulimen (Rights)
Malkin with Kessel would be amazing to watch.
Possession game is a huge problem for the Leafs. Way to much run and gun.
LOL! These past 2 years hasn't been anywhere near run & gun it was rope & dope.... They would have been a better team if they played more of an offensive game
Puck possession isn't regarded by the good old Canadian dump & grind game. In fact your giving up possession to play that game and grind the wall.
Detroit was the first team to go away from this game and have adopted the old SOVIET PUCK POSSESION GAME that's based around skill & skating to open up passes... That's why they've been EURO HEAVY for the past 20 + years and extremely successful.
More & more teams especially with the rules that were implicated to rid the clutch & grab skill killing hockey are playing more of the EUROPEAN puck possession game to control and dictate a game rather than dump & chase play defense first game that Carlyle seems to believe he 's watching in the playoffs.
The game has changed... Defensive hockey of the past has gone the way of the doo doo bird. It's now an offensive zone puck control game spend more time in the O zone than the D zone and the way that starts is by having puck possession through the neutral zone and into the O zone... Dump & chase is the last resort that really only teams with no talent play and that's what Carlyle has deployed for his last 4 seasons going back to his days in Anaheim... He's the one that needs to change and get with the times.
Never mentioned dump and chase. What we often do is spend five minutes hemmed in our end holding on for dear life. Then get the puck, skate down the ice, shoot the puck, get a chance or two, and if we don't score.....repeat the process. Wish we had more guys that were better at the possession game like you described.
We have those and don't use them right and if some people had there way we be trading 2 of the best we have at that in Gardiner and Kadri.
There's a lot of negativity thrown out at the players right now. They're not perfect and can certainly all improve as individuals but as a rule in team sports individual players are products of the environment they're in. The environment of team hockey the coaches are responsible for and we not only retained but extended the head coach responsible for the team game we seen for 2 straight years of rope & dope, shackles on PMD a big proponent of puck possession, long stretch pass , dump & chase Defensive first hockey.
My buddy said it best if your looking to improve the roster start by up grading your weakest link to add depth. If your looking to improve a poor team game fire the coach.... Looks like we're going backwards
Kessel, Rielly, 2014 1st, Kadri. Yeah this is what it would take, and yeah we wouldn't do it. And probably shouldn't. You have to consider that teams will be lining up with offers.