Tavares is also a shooter, who can score, especially on the PP. The problem is that he doesn't seem to do much else, other than win faceoffs.
Wow do you remember that time Conn got so mad after a 6-3 loss to the Red Wings that he was quoted in the Toronto Telegram saying he was going to fire Hap Day and close his pharmacy in the Gardens and trade Bob Goldham for a bag of pucks, talk about losers in blue. I just can't believe they even dressed Goldham in the first place. Then there was that time that Teeder gave that puck away at the blueline and Boston scored shorthanded.
How many times did Malgin take a feed only to have the rush negated and the puck turned over because he either got out muscled or made a really dumb play and coughed up the biscut
Absolutely point-blank range for JT, although he does occasionally pot one from farther.
So they gave him 17 years, and only didn't extend him when his team missed the playoffs. Not remotely similar to firing somebody within 5 years who's consistently putting out a top-tier team.
Both GMs built the overwhelming majority of their top-tier teams.
They won a cup 4 years later, after multiple years of getting the same outcome as they did before the GM change. You seem to think the cause of the win was the GM change, despite there being no reason to think that.
Just let there continue to be no shootouts in the playoffs...please!Argentina with the leafiest thing; held the lead and then blew it, then got the lead in extra-time and then blew it again. BUT...-> They won!.
Men in blue win in soccer
Can Leafs do it this season?
Nice try attempting to put words in my mouth. Nowhere did I insinuate the GM is the sole cause of the cup win. My argument is actually based on playoff failure being just cause to switch GM's, something you tried arguing vehemently against earlier in the thread.
Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Rielly - 4 best players on the Leafs. Dubas brought in ONE of them. Once again way off the mark
They’ll want to get a W this week, because the between Christmas and New Years trip - StL,AZ, Colorado - could be one of those blah trips.
At what point does it get named “18 wheeler going over the cliff”
Thank god it was only 5-2…….I feel so much better.
Get used to it. Because until they actually do something in the playoffs and win a round at the absolute minimum and prove that they're progressing on their way to being a cop contender, you're going to be seeing plenty of overreaction posts after a 2 game losing streak.
First off, the irony of you talking about small sample sizes when you're advocating basing these decisions exclusively on a handful of playoff games, with no consideration for any context of what happened, how the team played, margins, or why they lost. Second, I didn't argue that one season was enough to fire anybody. I'm the one arguing that you need to base these decisions on a more comprehensive evaluation than team lose in playoff = GM bad man, and I pointed out the false equivalency of McPhee and Dubas and their situations. Third, it wasn't one season of not being a powerhouse. It was 17 years of not winning a cup, the 3rd straight year in the 90-point range, culminating in not making the playoffs, and poor performances (not just outcomes) in their recent playoffs. I didn't even say he should have been fired, but it certainly makes a lot more sense to go in a different direction in that situation than ours.
You absolutely did. It's literally the basis of your argument, even though the playoff outcomes stayed exactly the same for years after the GM change.
What I argued against was making decisions about the GM based exclusively on the team's playoff series wins and losses and nothing else. You decided to bring up McPhee, who was kept on through countless playoff losses much worse than ours, and only let go after his team missed the playoffs - completely contradicting your own argument.
Dubas actually brought in two of them, re-signed all of them, and built a top-tier team around them. Everybody starts with something. It doesn't invalidate what they do with it.
