Leafs announce promotions and new goalie coach

[TribalPhoenix]

My assessment of your assessment is that you make a lot of assumptions without necessarily much deep thought beyond said assumptions, rather a penchant for ascribing to a chosen narrative. Just an assessment though.

That's a heck of a word salad you have there.

 

[rimshot]

I heard a story (think it was on the Steve Dangle podcast) that apparently at the 2014 draft, Shanahan asked Nonis and the scouts who they were drafting at 8th overall. They answered with some D man that was off the board. Shanahan asked what the reasoning was and they said " he's big". Shanahan then said we are selecting William Nylander. It was not long after that, Shanahan fired Nonis and pretty well the whole scouting staff.

I could very well see this being true considering our drafting the previous 5 yrs or so.

Bob Newhart tells a story about how his wife seemed angry with him for a couple days. He finally asked her what was wrong. She said..."I dreamed that we went to a party and you spent all night talking to you friends and ignoring me." He asked her why, if she knew it was just a dream, was she still mad at him? She said..."well it was just like something you would do."

 

[keonsbitterness]

Because the fact you believe the term fraud, a contraction for the term fraudulent, exists only in a legal context makes me question your English vocabulary which typically is limited by age.

The legal context seemed to be a credible assumption in the case of obtaining a key position in a multi-billion dollar company.

I turned 39 yet again last month.

 

[cupcrazyman]

you get to be AGM
and you get to be AGM
and you get to be AGM
and everybody gets to be AGM

what progressive forward thinking out of the box moves Dubie made today , lol ,now go out and find us a goalie

Hoping she becomes GM very soon.

 

[hotpaws]

Hoping she becomes GM very soon.

i'm still wondering how she keeps getting promoted when she barely has any time to spend on her job with the leafs

-when we hired her as an ass't she was a full time med student in Calgary
-when we promoted her she was a full time resident
-now we gave her another promotion and i believe she's still a full time resident

she doing really well in her side hustle , lol

 

[rocketman588]

Good for wickenheiser she's a legend

 

[hfman]

That's a heck of a word salad you have there.

took the words right out of my mouth

i had to read it 6 times before even beginning to understand it

must be a blast at parties though!

 

[danny90]

Why do they refer to her as Dr? What exactly does she have her doctorate in? Why are the other individuals not given their titles (Mr)? Is she supposed to be the called Dr, Wickenheiser in a professional setting when doing hockey things?

This just seems like pandering.

If only the leafs were as good at playoffs are they are in media relations.

If someone has a PhD they are referred to as Dr

 

[keonsbitterness]

You're really not helping your case by continuing to argue that my use of the term "fraud" when referring to a snake oil salesman, in the sphere of hockey, somehow has a legal connotation. You're really, really grasping here.

You haven't really noticed what I've been doing.

 

[deprw]

you just can't stop making crap up to fluff your boy Dubas

it was well known Lou kicked Dubas to the Marlies the second he became GM and favored Hunter to take over for him which means nothing since Shanny was the boss and chose Dubas

and i don't understand how someone who keeps whining about people for being too critical of Dubas is on here constantly craping on every former Leaf employee and every non Leaf player or mgmt

How many years your going to echo that fantasy of yours as a fact? Repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.

You don't know what Lou thought. No one does, so you basicly miss your own perception as fact.

It was actually one of Lous best decisions to send Dubas to Marlies. Marlies won championship under Dubas and Hunter botched our drafting, which ended up slowing up our build even more than those RFA contracts did.

It must be hard pill to swallow that those experienced hockey guys are the ones that actually had problems to get it done for our build. Lou couldn't find us any defenders and Hunters drafting was atrocious at best.

Even though we drafted those big hulking players we all wanted.

 

[hotpaws]

How many years your going to echo that fantasy of yours as a fact? Repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.

You don't know what Lou thought. No one does, so you basicly miss your own perception as fact.

It was actually one of Lous best decisions to send Dubas to Marlies. Marlies won championship under Dubas and Hunter botched our drafting, which ended up slowing up our build even more than those RFA contracts did.

It must be hard pill to swallow that those experienced hockey guys are the ones that actually had problems to get it done for our build. Lou couldn't find us any defenders and Hunters drafting was atrocious at best.

Even though we drafted those big hulking players we all wanted.

thanks for the laugh

-the Marlies won a Calder with the players supplied by the parent club , it also helps we usually outspend everybody , unfortunately that hasn't helped with Dubie running the show

-what i know came out of Lou's mouth which gets denied endlessly for some strange reason

-Lou isn't perfect but did you expect him to completely rebuild the team after tearing it down in 2 yrs ? and keep in mind i never heard anyone screaming we should be trading for D the summer we finished dead last and drafted Mathews

and let me get this straight , your craping on Lou for not being able to win a cup in the 2 yrs following our dead last finish but are praising Dubas for um , i have no idea , lol , maybe it's the geriatric D that's your impressed with . lol

you literally can't make this stuff up

and here's what that genius Dubas has built us in 4 yrs going into his 5th so far

G - no num 1 and a massive cap dump in Mrzarek

D - an old soft declining D core , hell he can't even sign his pet without any drama

F - the 3 standout kids he inherited who are now in there prime , a grossly overpaid declining 11m C and after Bunting who's a solid 3rd wheel on our top line he has nothing

and this is what you believe we should be praising ?

 

[deprw]

thanks for the laugh

-the Marlies won a Calder with the players supplied by the parent club , it also helps we usually outspend everybody , unfortunately that hasn't helped with Dubie running the show

-what i know came out of Lou's mouth which gets denied endlessly for some strange reason

-Lou isn't perfect but did you expect him to completely rebuild the team after tearing it down in 2 yrs ? and keep in mind i never heard anyone screaming we should be trading for D the summer we finished dead last and drafted Mathews

and let me get this straight , your craping on Lou for not being able to win a cup in the 2 yrs following our dead last finish but are praising Dubas for um , i have no idea , lol , maybe it's the geriatric D that's your impressed with . lol

you literally can't make this stuff up

and here's what that genius Dubas has built us in 4 yrs going into his 5th so far

G - no num 1 and a massive cap dump in Mrzarek

D - an old soft declining D core , hell he can't even sign his pet without any drama

F - the 3 standout kids he inherited who are now in there prime , a grossly overpaid declining 11m C and after Bunting who's a solid 3rd wheel on our top line he has nothing

and this is what you believe we should be praising ?

I'm not craping Lou for not winning the cup. It was way too early on our window to win with our team. I crap on Lou and Hunter on not having any meaningful impact players left out our roster, that is something that we can judge them off. Lou had one big addition during his tenure and it was Freddie Andersen, it did it end well here and he shat the bed in all game sevens he played here.

Same goes with Hunter, he was brought here to fix our scouting and he failed miserably. It just fact, outside of our big three we didn't do jack shit and you could argue that Dave Morrison did better job before him. Hiring Hunter you could actually pin on Shanahan, but you never do, because your so fixated on Dubas.

Like it or not Marlies won championship under Dubas guidance, if you want to push your agenda that he was pushed a side by Lou you can't discredit of him fixing the Marlies. It's either way and he didn't have any top prospects there to really build that success on, all of our big names came almost straight to Leafs. He made good additions to those Marlies rosters and Holl is actually playing for the Leaf as player Dubas brought into Marlies.

I have time to argue with you because your bias is so skewed that you don't ever get it. If you want to look up to this team and argue about it you should have some sort of eyes to watch whole picture with Lou included and also be able to look around the league. Every successful rebuild have consisted good defenders and Lou didn't brought in any. Not a single defender. Nada. Dubas brought in Muzzin, Brodie, Holl, Lyubushkin, Ceci, Barrie etc. If you look up to Islanders Lou is one of the few GMs that have botched top pair defender to other franchise. He basicly gave away #2 defender of championship team, what a blunder.

We are so concerned that our young stars won't resign but actually Lou is one that lost one of his key UFAs in Parise to UFA and is in danger with Barzal. If Dubas would have failed in that earlier you would paint with pretty wide brush all those threats Dubas existence pose to us, because of his history.

There are tons of RFAs unsigned and you're worried about Sandin because of some radio guys. Usually Dubas has fixed his problems so I assume that will be fixed eventually or we can get back to it around training camp if that situation is still on.

At the moment I would praise on Sakic, but other than that there isn't that many teams that can sleep their night that well. Boston is in decline, Tampa and Florida are bleeding assets and many rebuilding team is struggling to climb into playoff picture. Penguins are in trouble, Philadelphia is still work in progress. Even Avalanche will have hard time signing their #1 goalie and are losing their #2 center.

Actually I'm pretty happy that we have our defense mostly set and Kerfoot is also good value piece for us. His 5on5 scoring and versatility is pretty nice and if we cry about Kadri he was failure until this years playoffs. So if we win next season Kerfoot in our roster we can also celebrate that trade as a win, so I won't count my chickens until they hatch.

Look around league how many teams are you really jealous of? I'd argue Rangers at the moment, because they have Shesterkin and Fox. Latter who forced his way into Rangers and fell into their lap.

Look up the overall picture and argue after that you want to restart our rebuild into another 10 year cycle, that you're basicly argumenting by bashing our core. If they're so flawed should we just start over? I don't believe that and I also understand that changing GMs probably means at least season or two slow down here, because he has to assess this whole organization from top to bottom. Do you understand that. It's doable, but there isn't that many cup winning GMs with great resume available.

 

[SprDaVE]

Hoping she becomes GM very soon.

I think she'll become a GM within the next few years. I think this is a step towards that.

 

[saltming]

Someone specifically for goalie scouting!

 

[The Masters]

Interesting to note, the day they announce the new goaltending coach a bunch of speculation floating around local radio that they might start the season with Mrazek & Kallgren or Woll. Which is exactly what I said they might do the day they fired Briere. It now seems to be all about PR for this upper management because they know they screwed themselves with the roster.

If this new goalie coach can get Mrazek back to his old self, that's a major win for the team and the cap. Not saying the blame all goes on Briere but I bet they didn't like his abilities the last few seasons.

 

[SprDaVE]

Someone specifically for goalie scouting!

They had Jon Elkin in that role. He's still around but they added someone to the department.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

You haven't really noticed what I've been doing.

Obviously it's been a pretty piss poor job if we've gone this long and it hasn't been sorted.

Funny? No. Insightful? No. Sarcastic? No. Witty? No. Relevant? No. Even remotely comprehensible? Borderline... the words are all understood, just not the combination they're in.

 

[McSnypsky]

Someone specifically for goalie scouting!

The Alm hire was also great, don't know anything about him, but just from a standpoint of he's specifically scouting goalies is a step in the right direction.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

They're not AGM's. This is just PR-based nonsense

exactly.

How insulting really.

> Curtis Sanford as Goaltending Coach.

Anyone know if I should be excited or not ?

 

[Apex Predator]

exactly.

How insulting really.

> Curtis Sanford as Goaltending Coach.

Anyone know if I should be excited or not ?

I am excited because the Canucks seem to find a way to always develop goalies from Luongo, Lack, Markstrom, Demko. That organizational seems to have the pulse on something so poaching one of their goalie coach I think is a good idea.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Canucks seem to find a way to always develop goalies

Our last smart goalie move was drafting Rask.

/gulp

 

[saltming]

Our last smart goalie move was drafting Rask.

/gulp

Drafting Rask was the right move. What followed was a fiasco

 

[keonsbitterness]

Obviously it's been a pretty piss poor job if we've gone this long and it hasn't been sorted.

Funny? No. Insightful? No. Sarcastic? No. Witty? No. Relevant? No. Even remotely comprehensible? Borderline... the words are all understood, just not the combination they're in.

You keep replying? Yes.

 

[ToneDog]

I am excited because the Canucks seem to find a way to always develop goalies from Luongo, Lack, Markstrom, Demko. That organizational seems to have the pulse on something so poaching one of their goalie coach I think is a good idea.

As one of the media folk said today. If we can't find a goalie, he can coach himself.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

You keep replying? Yes.

I can't lie, it's amusing! Everyone slows down to watch a car accident.