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Confirmed with Link: Leafs acquire Dzingel, Lyubushkin from ARI for Ritchie, c.2nd... Dzingel on waivers &claimed

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rocketman588 said:
They arguably took on a contract that's going to cost them more though correct? It seems like it's more difficult Of a buyout since it goes up
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If they buy him out which they probably won't I think they come out ahead by a couple 100k. They've got only 5 or 6 signed players next year, from a few years back they looked like they had a bright future, now not so much. Maybe Dubas can pilfer Chykrun from them
 
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Dzingel on What Happened in Arizona, Why He Respects Kyle Dubas | San Jose Hockey Now

As for what happened in Arizona, Dzingel wasn’t saying much. The 29-year-old had notched just four goals and three assists in just 26 games in the desert.

“I didn’t like the opportunity I was getting, and it just is what it is. Sometimes it happens in this business. They’ve got guys playing well, or guys not playing well and getting a job, so it just is what it is and it happens to a lot of different people,” said Dzingel.

He added: “I played center there for the first time, and I was trying to get comfortable doing that and not back to the wing. So that was on me too. It wasn’t my best.”

Dzingel had nicer things to say about a Maple Leafs organization that he never suited up for.

“Nothing but great things to say about Kyle Dubas, the way he handled it and what he did for me,” said Dzingel, who’s been waiting out a move in Arizona. “Basically [he] said he’ll get me playing somewhere in the NHL. He was straight-up honest with me. All the respect to him and the way he handled it. At first, you know, some things don’t look like a good thing, and then they turn out to be a huge blessing. So, you got to always take everything, that maybe look bad at the time and now I’m here with a huge opportunity.”

“[He] called me…and was honest. You don’t find that a lot in this league,” Dzingel reaffirmed.

So it’s a new day for Dzingel, going from a rebuilding Coyotes mired in arena-woes to a team like the San Jose Sharks, who are still hoping to make a playoff run.

“I’m just looking forward to the future,” he said, “not the past.”
 
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CantLoseWithMatthews said:
Lyubushkin has been good so far. There's a lot of potential for a good pairing with Sandin. It's also the most I've ever liked Ritchie
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His biggest flaws are in his footwork but I think/hope the Leafs skating coaches can help him improve there. Otherwise he definitely has upside especially next to someone like Sandin who can help him with outlet passes.
 
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Stephen said:
A heavy hitting defenseman has value in putting a hard stop to a down low cycle game, which allows for his defense partner or centerman to retrieve the loose puck and quickly distribute for the transition. We've seen many times before where a higher skilled defenseman without that big size and wingspan will also lose body positioning because they're simply muscled off or are leveraging their bodies to try and contain someone much bigger. That's also not ideal. In lieu of having 6x prime Chris Pronger's, you try to mix up the types out there and play a coherent, structured game plan.
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In a perfect world a physical d-man does use his physicality to stop the cycle game, enabling his team to get the puck but generally physical d-men aren't that effective. Lidstrom was one of the greatest d-men that ever lived but he wasn't flashy physical, he would angle an opponent towards the boards with the intention of getting the puck and moving it out of his defensive zone or pass it too an open teammate. Brodie isn't bad, he's not really physical but he uses his gifts, the greatest being his brain, to enable him and Rielly to be a reasonable facsimile of a 1st pairing d, why are they effective even tho neither are physical, it's because they can move the puck, retrieve the puck, pass which are the essential talents of d-men. Physicality as a primary talent is a significant ways down on the criteria of most GMs and without a reasonable puck game all d-men are useless.
 
hobarth said:
In a perfect world a physical d-man does use his physicality to stop the cycle game, enabling his team to get the puck but generally physical d-men aren't that effective. Lidstrom was one of the greatest d-men that ever lived but he wasn't flashy physical, he would angle an opponent towards the boards with the intention of getting the puck and moving it out of his defensive zone or pass it too an open teammate. Brodie isn't bad, he's not really physical but he uses his gifts, the greatest being his brain, to enable him and Rielly to be a reasonable facsimile of a 1st pairing d, why are they effective even tho neither are physical, it's because they can move the puck, retrieve the puck, pass which are the essential talents of d-men. Physicality as a primary talent is a significant ways down on the criteria of most GMs and without a reasonable puck game all d-men are useless.
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Can’t compare the #1 slot to #5/6. Look further down in those Detroit lineup
 
CupcakeSprinkles said:
Can’t compare the #1 slot to #5/6. Look further down in those Detroit lineup
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Look at the last team that won the Cup, the last 2 Cups actually, their d isn't full of physical d-men, their d is a like TO's, all 3 pairings have d-men that can retrieve and move the puck. In fact look at all the teams that are better defensively because of good d-men, finding d-men on their rosters who are primarily physical are rare, for good reason.
 
hobarth said:
Look at the last team that won the Cup, the last 2 Cups actually, their d isn't full of physical d-men, their d is a like TO's, all 3 pairings have d-men that can retrieve and move the puck. In fact look at all the teams that are better defensively because of good d-men, finding d-men on their rosters who are primarily physical are rare, for good reason.
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We have 1/6 that are physical. It’s easy to say the make up isn’t cookie cutter all needs to be the same
 
Nylanderthal said:
But Ritchie makes 800k more than his cap hit for next year. How does that help them?
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Point 1. They like Nick Ritchie and wanted him this off season
Point 2. They almost certainly have a hard budget in season
Point 3. They saved cashed dollars in that deal for 2021-2022
Point 4. They actually have to ice a team next season and have like 30 million dollars committed and almost no NHLer's under contract.

They get a guy they want within their cash budget for this year (when they didn't have flexibility), and can plan around him for next year (when they do)
 
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4thline said:
Point 1. They like Nick Ritchie and wanted him this off season
Point 2. They almost certainly have a hard budget in season
Point 3. They saved cashed dollars in that deal for 2021-2022
Point 4. They actually have to ice a team next season and have like 30 million dollars committed and almost no NHLer's under contract.

They get a guy they want within their cash budget for this year (when they didn't have flexibility), and can plan around him for next year (when they do)
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Plus Crouse is most definitely gone. Roussel most likely gets some interest as depth. And Liam O'Brien may as well. Leaving them with no"protection" for Keller and Schmaltz.
 
4thline said:
Point 1. They like Nick Ritchie and wanted him this off season
Point 2. They almost certainly have a hard budget in season
Point 3. They saved cashed dollars in that deal for 2021-2022
Point 4. They actually have to ice a team next season and have like 30 million dollars committed and almost no NHLer's under contract.

They get a guy they want within their cash budget for this year (when they didn't have flexibility), and can plan around him for next year (when they do)
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And if they can rehab his game (by giving him lots of minutes), they might be able to flip him next deadline for a pick.
 
Guy Boucher said:
His biggest flaws are in his footwork but I think/hope the Leafs skating coaches can help him improve there. Otherwise he definitely has upside especially next to someone like Sandin who can help him with outlet passes.
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I feel like his biggest flaw is his puck ability. He has a very hard time making plays in transition or in traffic and doesn't make cross ice plays, which can result unforced turnovers, forcing passes and icing the puck a lot.

His skating is very much Polak. Solid speed, average agility.
 
hobarth said:
Look at the last team that won the Cup, the last 2 Cups actually, their d isn't full of physical d-men, their d is a like TO's, all 3 pairings have d-men that can retrieve and move the puck. In fact look at all the teams that are better defensively because of good d-men, finding d-men on their rosters who are primarily physical are rare, for good reason.
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What? Tampa d is physical
 
SprDaVE said:
I feel like his biggest flaw is his puck ability. He has a very hard time making plays in transition or in traffic and doesn't make cross ice plays, which can result unforced turnovers, forcing passes and icing the puck a lot.

His skating is very much Polak. Solid speed, average agility.
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Most of his puck moving problems are related to his footwork. His hands are actually ok but the way he moves his feet make it really difficult to receive passes or make passes, and often puts himself into bad situations because of it. His speed is decent because he works really hard and really hustles.

Overall he's a good player and his unlike other players I think flaws can be fixed.
 
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Dragao6 said:
Nick ritchie goal and an assist :(
Leafs are really a bad franchise where allot of players go to die lol
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Yes, terrible franchise. Time to find a new one, maybe you might actually cheer for them?

Did you actually ever watch the Leafs, see Ritchie play? Surely nobody who ever actually watched Ritchie, though he even put forth much of an effort. Did the goal bounce off his butt again?
 
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Dragao6 said:
Nick ritchie goal and an assist :(
Leafs are really a bad franchise where allot of players go to die lol
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I thought he was worth keeping around as a 3rd or 4th liner. He also had 3 hits in 12 minutes tonight which has value in my eyes in a series.

He seemed to lack the killer instinct when here, but he did throw checks, so really I view him as being miscast at $2.5M. He also wasn't disciplined which made it worse, though I didn't think it was excessive.

Maybe he will do better in a stress free place like AZ. Regardless, Check back in 20 games and see if he is not afraid of getting the puck in a scrum.

The Leafs also found a solid, physical D Man while opening up cap space in his trade. So, depending on the deadline deals, his trade could be paramount to some key additions that make a difference.

I wouldn't have been concerned if they kept him lower in the lineup. He didn't replace Hyman but Dubas did find his replacement anyways.
 
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