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LD Zeev Buium - University of Denver, NCAA (2024, 12th, MIN)

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57special said:
As a Wild fan, i hope so. His weaknesses are lack of size(he is Makar/Fox size), skating speed(he is a good skater, just not super fast), and defensive intensity(he is decent, but not especially combative defensively). His IQ, evasiveness with the puck, and play at the offensive blue line appear to be strengths.

It was a VERY strong draft class for Dmen. I can see any of the other Dmen drafted before him ending up as better players. Dickinson, Levshunov, Silayev have better size and skating. Yakemchuk better size and physicality, Parekh is an offensive freak.

We'll just have to wait and see.
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I wanted Anaheim to take him at 3… even tho we draft lhd really well in later rounds…. Zeev was too good to pass up imo.

That being said I like sennecke skill set + potential and was a much bigger need to get talent up front (still ended up getting solberg/ tarin smith later in draft as lhd)
 
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He was my favourite defenseman of the draft as well. He just excels and wins. He more than passes the eye-test and dominates the statsheet.

Would the Wild do a Buium - Faber pairing, two smooth allround defenders, or is it better to let them carry a pairing each?
 
Martin Elz said:
He was my favourite defenseman of the draft as well. He just excels and wins. He more than passes the eye-test and dominates the statsheet.

Would the Wild do a Buium - Faber pairing, two smooth allround defenders, or is it better to let them carry a pairing each?
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We have 3/4's of our future top 4 (theoretically) in place. Depends on who the other LD ends up being and how they all mesh.
 
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Hockeyville USA said:
Size bias was a huge theme in the 2024 Draft. Ottawa also favored a physical right shot D considering their left shot D are set for years to come.
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Ya I understand why, I'm just shocked teams passed on his skill level. Many teams are gonna regret it but that's not saying those other dmen won't be great players, I just think Buium is that good.
 
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Favster said:
Ya I understand why, I'm just shocked teams passed on his skill level. Many teams are gonna regret it but that's not saying those other dmen won't be great players, I just think Buium is that good.
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I think in the case of NJ it was probably the presence of Luke Hughes already filing the role you'd expect from Buium. In contrast NJ does not have a top of the lineup defensive guy with the overall game of Silayev. NJ relies on defense by committee with Siegenthaler, Pesce, Kovacevic, and Dillon. I'm guessing they see Silayev, Dickison, and Buium as similar players in terms of talent but they are stylistically different and Silayev's particular skillset fits the NJ outlook a bit more? I don't think any team could go wrong with any of those three.
 
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PDX Flyer said:
The Flyers passing on him for Luchanko is so Flyers. Briere even openly commented that they didn’t draft him because they already had Cam fin York. Kid looks really good
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I like Luchanko, but you take Buium all day long. York is not a player you build your team around. Buium being there at 12 might've surprised Briere, and he failed to take advantage of his good fortune.
 
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PDX Flyer said:
Not drafting bpa because of his agent sure is a look
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The 12th pick historically isn’t valuable enough to deal with someone with such a sustained history of immoral tactics. I’d do the same thing. The famous football manager Pep Guardiola for a long time refused to sign players from the famous agent (the now deceased) Mino Raiola. It’s a perfectly legitimate strategy. There are plenty of other players around. You can ignore clients of one immoral agent.

Here are the last 15 players picked 12OA.

2024: Buium
2023: But
2022: Mateychuk
2021: Sillinger
2020: Lundell
2019: Boldy
2018: Dobson
2017: Necas
2016: McLeod
2015: Guryanov
2014: Perlini
2013: Domi
2012: Grigorenko
2011: Ryan Murphy
2010: Fowler
2009: De Haan

Definitely worth it: Lundell, Boldy, Dobson, Necas
Definitely not worth it: McLeod, Guryanov, Perlini, Murphy
Maybe worth it: Sillinger, De Haan, Domi, Fowler
Too early: Buium, But, Mateychuk

So essentially, it’s a completely mixed track record. It might go great, it might not go well, and it might be somewhere in between. The 12OA is not some guaranteed star. The 13OA is marginally worse overall on average. If you don’t want to deal with such an immoral agent, I think it’s a perfectly legit strategy. The numbers don’t prove out against it either.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
The 12th pick historically isn’t valuable enough to deal with someone with such a sustained history of immoral tactics. I’d do the same thing. The famous football manager Pep Guardiola for a long time refused to sign players from the famous agent (the now deceased) Mino Raiola. It’s a perfectly legitimate strategy. There are plenty of other players around. You can ignore clients of one immoral agent.
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Am I completely missing something on Gauthier??? What did Overhardt have to do with anything beyond (very effectively and within the bounds of the CBA!) carrying out his client's wishes? Comparing him to Raiola (and Briere/Jones/Torts to Pep) is insane ...
 
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Am I completely missing something on Gauthier??? What did Overhardt have to do with anything beyond (very effectively and within the bounds of the CBA!) carrying out his client's wishes? Comparing him to Raiola (and Briere/Jones/Torts to Pep) is insane ...
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Overhardt also the guy who effed with the flyers about Johansens “injury”. Playing and practicing day before and day of flyers trade, then hes traded and sent down and he can’t go anymore.

Then this year waited until end of summer to schedule a surgery late in the season so he could sit out the whole year again.

Immoral is putting it nicely
 
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qcal1427 said:
Am I completely missing something on Gauthier??? What did Overhardt have to do with anything beyond (very effectively and within the bounds of the CBA!) carrying out his client's wishes? Comparing him to Raiola (and Briere/Jones/Torts to Pep) is insane ...
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Overhardt is also the agent of Johansen. The Flyers had a lot of trouble there. You can look around the league with some of his other players and see what he’s done with Trouba or Gibson.

Look, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that so many of his clients are very difficult to deal with. This is his reputation. He pushes them to be this way.
 
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