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LD Luke Hughes (2021, 4th, NJD)

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cg98 said:
Oh really? If it's not that good then why is it immensely succeeding in developing NHL players more than these leagues? Why are there not that many elite NHL players coming out of the Czech or Swiss leagues compared to the NCAA? You do know that these players actually study shit while playing there right?

Sounds to me like you don't really know anything :thumbu:
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Still waiting for this proof that it succeeds in developing players any more than Euro leagues
 
Jersey Fresh said:


Honest question, what are you guys seeing here? Lambert (and the other forward) leave the puck at the blue line turning the play over. Hughes takes his man at the back door and Lambert doesn't track Savoie, while Van Whye guards air and doesn't react to the rebound, leaving him alone for the shot. That's 100% not on Hughes.
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ESPN + showed a different reply, but after watching that and being able to see it better I agree, it was the other man's fault.
 
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WarriorofTime said:
Oh yeah, it was 100% his fault and he knew it too. Now has to live with the shame of costing the most talented college hockey team ever assembled a shot at a national championship, but the millions he will get in the NHL will soothe the pain.

Going back is stupid, he has a guaranteed roster spot in the NHL next season.
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Umm 100%?
Give me a break
 
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Rydev said:
Still waiting for this proof that it succeeds in developing players any more than Euro leagues
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The proof is literally with players in the league. Someone even provided a list of players to you (not trash players either) whove succeeded in the NHL after playing in the NCAA for 2+ years and you're too salty and arrogant to accept it. Not my fault you can't seem to read :huh: You have made no point to your argument. You lose.
 
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Rydev said:
I dont think you have any legitimate argument on what Luke Hughes would be improving on next season

Defending some NCAA players who wont make the big league? Yeah thats worth a lot

Hes not coming up because NJ sucks and hed get caved in. No other reason
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You're kidding right
 
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Rydev said:
Still waiting for this proof that it succeeds in developing players any more than Euro leagues
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you want proof of something that can't be proved, lmao. We don't know what would have happened if so and so went a different path and what (if any) effect it would have on their development. The reality is that the NCAA is a good developmental path and there are other good developmental paths as well. Dunno what your agenda here is.
 
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I think he was frustrated because he couldn't get out on the guy who had the unobstructed lane to the net. He had his man to the right of the net. While his defense can be loose and there are plays where he gets scored on, this particular goal is not his fault.

The interesting thing is how strong a recruiting class Michigan has coming in. Hughes can help show guys like Fantilli, McGroarty, Chelsey and Nazar the way to handle expectation and performance as high picks. He gets a leadership role on a team that should still be plenty talented and the kids get to lean on someone. The idea of him feeding Fantilli has to be one of my favorite thoughts for the next collegiate season.
 
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Wild that he would go back to college and pass up a year of NHL money and delay the time to free agency, etc. The time value effect alone makes my head hurt. Maybe his bros are sending him a nice allowance, lol.
 
I don’t think Hughes will be that different a player 3 years from now whether he chooses college or Pros for next season.

I think there could be a benefit to getting his ELC ended as quickly as possible if you think he’s a likely candidate for an 8 year second contract.
 
WarriorofTime said:
Oh yeah, it was 100% his fault and he knew it too. Now has to live with the shame of costing the most talented college hockey team ever assembled a shot at a national championship, but the millions he will get in the NHL will soothe the pain.

Going back is stupid, he has a guaranteed roster spot in the NHL next season.
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What on earth are you guys talking about? That sequence is 0% on him.
 
WarriorofTime said:
Oh yeah, it was 100% his fault and he knew it too. Now has to live with the shame of costing the most talented college hockey team ever assembled a shot at a national championship, but the millions he will get in the NHL will soothe the pain.

Going back is stupid, he has a guaranteed roster spot in the NHL next season.
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First goal was his fault too. Was trying to rush the puck instead of covering D zone... two goals are his fault. Even ESPN said first goal was his fault, "He was looking for the breakout pass at the blue line instead of playing defense... but that's ok because he's such a special talent and you take the warts with the special hockey he plays."

Tell that to his team.
 
Luke was one of the youngest players in the 2022 draft, a few weeks later and he would be eligible for the 2023 draft. He's 10 months younger than Owen Power which means 10 less months of development time.

Jack was likewise a young birthday and was super extremely unprepared for the NHL his D+1 season. Playing his D+1 season at Michigan would have done wonders to him - letting him mature physically (and mentally) and add weight, learn systems, play against higher quality competition than he was experiencing at USNDT.

Luke is still not done growing, he's officially listed as 6'2" but recent pictures show him closer in size to 6'6" Owen Power than to 6'1" Kent Johnson.

Combined with Marty Brodeur's comments (Marty is now in Hockey Ops for NJ) about how previously the organization has rushed guys due to their need for talent and ended up hurting their development, and that the organization is now trying to be patient and let guys develop, there's no way NJ was going to rush him to the NHL.
 
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Devils731 said:
I don’t think Hughes will be that different a player 3 years from now whether he chooses college or Pros for next season.

I think there could be a benefit to getting his ELC ended as quickly as possible if you think he’s a likely candidate for an 8 year second contract.
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Exactly, I just think financially it's an odd decision and I don't think going pro "too soon" is necessarily bad unless you think he'd go to the AHL, which I think is fairly unlikely.
 
The coverage wasn't great, but what I really dislike is smashing the stick against the goal post, and then doubling down and doing it again. Some may praise the "passion" or whatever, but to me it just screams immaturity. Like you lost a hockey game, deal with it kid. I know he's the youngest in the family so maybe he's a bit of a baby at times. Hopefully he can grow from it. Can't have that sort of attitude in the pros IMO.
 
WarriorofTime said:
Exactly, I just think financially it's an odd decision and I don't think going pro "too soon" is necessarily bad unless you think he'd go to the AHL, which I think is fairly unlikely.
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He could be viewing it as the best way to make sure he hits his peak productivity (and thus peak contract value) rather than just in terms of length of service, quicker access to his second contract, and such.
 
Chainshot said:
He could be viewing it as the best way to make sure he hits his peak productivity (and thus peak contract value) rather than just in terms of length of service, quicker access to his second contract, and such.
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It's an interesting gamble for sure, but it's tricky going up against the time value element on the other side of making money a year sooner. One of those counterfactuals we'll never be able to know with any degree of certainty what would have been the better path.
 
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