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Great pick, Liljegren, Valimaki, Necas, Vilardi (as it turned out) were my top 3 since about pick 6 onwards.
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Great pick, Liljegren, Valimaki, Necas, Vilardi (as it turned out) were my top 3 since about pick 6 onwards.
I'd probably pair Gio with Fox just cause. And andersson and Valimaki together, but it's a long ways away no one can predict what happens aside from maybe having all three of Brodie, Hamilton and Gio. Who knows Andersson or Kylington could impress at training camp and make the roster. Then the seasons they're in the NHL they develop to possible top four dmen. Then we have two trade chips(Valimaki and Fox).
Unless Fox tells the Flames he doesn't want to sign with them, they'd be utter fools to trade him. I'm sure people will laugh at me for saying this now, but he's our #1 prospect.
Anyway. Välimäki is a pretty good pick. Happy with it. And really, what's up with these umlauts?
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The more I read on Valimaki the more excited i get. I will be honest I thought we were picking Liljegren or Tolvanen with our pick. Now I could not be happier. I have noticed all the talk being around Liljegren though, is he really that much better then Valimaki? Did the Flames make a mistake, or did they take the safer pick of the 2? No body is talking about him so I am curious if everyone just considers him a safe bet for a top 4 d man. He has not been mentioned even once as a bust like so many other in this draft. Thought?
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He's a safer bet than Liljegren. Low risk Moderate reward
Liljegren has a higher ceiling. High risk, High reward
I'm the exact same way. Assumed we'd take Liljegren but the more I read and watch clips of Valimaki the more pumped I am.
Sounds like it was an easy decision for Calgary but we'll hear about Liljegren 10x more considering how he fell to the Leafs.
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#2 would be high reward (Top-pairing). Ofcourse he has the potential but it's not as likely as say Liljegren's potential.
I see Valimaki as a safer bet for #3-#4 than Liljegren.
I think the Leafs were very interested in Valimaki which is why Burke had discussions with the Leafs too.
Pretty sure they see top pairing potential. His offensive stats compare favorably to just about anyone and he's not a liability in his own end which seems to be a problem with a lot of these kids.
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oh, I heard he's the next Drew Doughty
Wouldn't want to over pump him. He's the best of a Karlsson-Doughty love child
Really liked Valimaki at the WJC, see him like a Mattias Ekholm, really good at both ends. Much better prospect than Heiskanen IMO, superior hockey sense. Not a brilliant skater though, but gets around fine.
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I wonder why.
...because even non-Leaf fans are so obsessed with Leaf fans and their prospects that this last page has as many of them talking about Leafs/Liljegren as it has fans talking about the prospect in the title
Bjornar Moxnes
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Anyone know why the Tri-City American players +/- were so drastically different? I get it's not a great stat overall, but when it's so drastically different on the same team it gets you curious.
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I viewed Valimaki as a safe bet for a top 4 but with top pairing potential.
Safe pick isn't a handle i care for and Valimaki deserves more fanfare than that.
leaflover
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That was just my opinion and i don't attend enough games to fool myself into thinking i'm a special judge of talent. I don't think HF needs another one of those.
The only WHL guys that got much hype were Patrick and Foote. For all the countless hours of prospect analysis i listened to in the months leading up to the draft Anderson-Dolan who is fine prospect himself was only ever mentioned as a sidenote during the odd(maybe 3 times accounting for a total of 1 minute of discussion) Yamamoto discussion. Not once was he the main topic, that's terrible.
Valimaki was in the same boat, mentioned briefly on rare occasions. I suppose if the Americans had a top 5 candidate he may have had more press and getting swept by the T-birds in rd 1 didn't help either.
In the end it doesn't really matter, Calgary got a good one.
I heard he's the next Karlsson
These kind of jokes are in fact kind of useless and stupid. If anyone would seriously claim when Karlsson was 18 that he would become what he is nowadays, I'm pretty sure that practically they would have been laughed out of the building. It is like this still with pretty promising prospects, especially d-men and goalies.
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How I see it is in a weak draft, high pick teams usually pick potential over safety, because they realize while Valimaki is great, his ceiling isn't elite. Whereas in a deep draft, Valimaki would be picked roughly the same this draft, in fact maybe even a few spots higher and at worst 20th overall or so. The reasoning is because the top picks all have elite ceilings, so the teams needing high draft picks pick them up already. But in the middle to lower first round, teams usually pick safety over potential, as they want to contend as long as possible and with them already being contenders, safe picks with weaker ceilings is their preferred choice as those players still help them anyways as opposed to waiting for a possible better ceiling player panning out.
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https://www.nhl.com/flames/video/sights-and-sounds-070717/t-277437092/c-52403103
Jump to 2:44.
This kid has ridiculous skill. Was an absolute stud at camp.
Jump to 2:44.
This kid has ridiculous skill. Was an absolute stud at camp.
