LD Daniil Misyul (2019, 70th, NJD)

[Jersey Fan 12]

And 23-year-old, 6'3" Daniil Misyul is in Utica while the Devils toss players like Luke Hughes and Simon Nemec into the NHL before they are ready, why? Doesn't seem to make much sense.

 

[dgibb10]

And 23-year-old, 6'3" Daniil Misyul is in Utica while the Devils toss players like Luke Hughes and Simon Nemec into the NHL before they are ready, why? Doesn't seem to make much sense.

Because Misyul isn't an NHL caliber hockey player, and Luke and Nemec are the 2 best dmen we have? Makes complete sense

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Ne

Because Misyul isn't an NHL caliber hockey player, and Luke and Nemec are the 2 best dmen we have? Makes complete sense.

Nemec and Luke Hughes have tremendous potential. At this stage in their career however neither are NHL defenseman (let alone the best two defensemen) on the team. Luke Hughes is -20 with the bulk of his points coming on the power play.

In the long-term both players have far greater potential than Misyul. Today they are not better defensemen.

 

[My3Sons]

Ne


Nemec and Luke Hughes have tremendous potential. At this stage in their career however neither are NHL defenseman (let alone the best two defensemen) on the team. Luke Hughes is -20 with the bulk of his points coming on the power play.

In the long-term both players have far greater potential than Misyul. Today they are not better defensemen.

if you've read the report of the primary Utica observer on the NJ board you'd get the impression that Misyul has some promise but is not yet an NHL caliber defender. He'd play a similar role to Bahl and NJ has too many young defenders in the lineup for now but they really have to develop Luke and Nemec.

 

[dgibb10]

Ne


Nemec and Luke Hughes have tremendous potential. At this stage in their career however neither are NHL defenseman (let alone the best two defensemen) on the team. Luke Hughes is -20 with the bulk of his points coming on the power play.

In the long-term both players have far greater potential than Misyul. Today they are not better defensemen.

With Luke Hughes on the ice at 5v5, NJD generates 56% of shots, and 54.2% of expected goals.
With Simon Nemec on the ice at 5v5, NJD generates 51% of shots, and 55.6% of expected goals.

Among the 208 dmen in the NHL with at least 500 minutes, both of these expected goal marks are top 30. They are the highest marks on the devils.

Luke Hughes +/- is skewed by horrific goaltending and the empty net (as well as being stuck with godawful brendan smith to start the year). With Luke Hughes, and not Brendan Smith on the ice at 5v5, NJD generates 56.35% of expected goals, a mark that would rank him 14th among NHL dmen.

Jonas Siegenthaler and John Marino have taken significant steps backwards this year.
Brendan Smith has been horrific.
Bahl has been overwhelmed, and him and Smith are awful at the breakout passes that NJD needs.

But Luke Hughes gets all the blame. Frankly he's been an upgrade on Graves, and Nemec has been an upgrade on Severson. The issue is losing Hamilton, and significant declines from Siegs and Marino.

Saying Misyul could handle 20+ minutes a night at the NHL level is utter delusion.

 

[dgibb10]

But yeah, NJD totally would have been better off trotting out:

Misyul-Marino
Bahl-Miller
Hatakka-Desimone

For a significant stretch of the season.

 

[My3Sons]

But yeah, NJD totally would have been better off trotting out:

Misyul-Marino
Bahl-Miller
Hatakka-Desimone

For a significant stretch of the season.

To be fair, Misyul looked good in preseason and has acquitted himself reasonably well on a struggling Utica team. Hopefully he gets a chance to stick as at least a seventh defenseman in camp next season. He does bring a physical style that NJ could use more of.

 

[Goptor]

And 23-year-old, 6'3" Daniil Misyul is in Utica while the Devils toss players like Luke Hughes and Simon Nemec into the NHL before they are ready, why? Doesn't seem to make much sense.

Its in the title "LD Daniil Misyul"

Misyul was held in Utica because LD Brendan Smith filled in for the lone injury at LD.

 

[Xirik]

Its in the title "LD Daniil Misyul"

Misyul was held in Utica because LD Brendan Smith filled in for the lone injury at LD.

man, I feel angry just seeing the name Brendan Smith.


I think I got issues...

 

[Nocashstyle]

Their posts are so insufferable, I’m convinced it’s a bit at this point.

 

[Caser]

Debuted in the NHL.

 

[My3Sons]

Debuted in the NHL.

He did ok under the circumstances.

 

[Xirik]

He did ok under the circumstances.

didn't really notice him much other then that one reverse pass to Siegenthaller that bounced of the back of the net that allowed the Lightning to take the puck.

 

[My3Sons]

didn't really notice him much other then that one reverse pass to Siegenthaller that bounced of the back of the net that allowed the Lightning to take the puck.

if that's all you noticed in that bad of a game he did ok in my view. He made a number of routine plays. His advanced stats are a bit of a mixed bag, but again, given the game they were fine. It's his first game in an utter disaster of team play. I'm sure he will improve from here although if he's lucky he gets a few more games before Luke and Pesce return.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I thought he played very well.

 

[My3Sons]

I thought he played very well.

Given his age, I'd probably keep him up as the extra defender when Luke and Pesce return and send Nemec down. At 23, MIsyul can benefit from practicing with the big club and maybe he only plays sporadically but that's better than Nemec only playing sporadically.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Given his age, I'd probably keep him up as the extra defender when Luke and Pesce return and send Nemec down. At 23, MIsyul can benefit from practicing with the big club and maybe he only plays sporadically but that's better than Nemec only playing sporadically.

Agreed. For me, the only reason to keep Casey and Nemec up is to get regular shifts. If that's not going to happen, let them cook.

That said, I would obviously keep Casey up and roll 7D because he's really freakin good. But I'm not in charge.

 

[My3Sons]

Agreed. For me, the only reason to keep Casey and Nemec up is to get regular shifts. If that's not going to happen, let them cook.

That said, I would obviously keep Casey up and roll 7D because he's really freakin good. But I'm not in charge.

Something tells me that Casey would be better on the wing than at defense once he settled in. His defensive acumen would serve him well as a winger and his skill would as well. He'd also have a bit more flexibility on avoiding physical confrontations than on defense since he wouldn't have to patrol the slot or the net front.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Something tells me that Casey would be better on the wing than at defense once he settled in. His defensive acumen would serve him well as a winger and his skill would as well. He'd also have a bit more flexibility on avoiding physical confrontations than on defense since he wouldn't have to patrol the slot or the net front.

Nah, he's already elite at creating time and space from the blue line and is a very capable defender, especially if paired with a more stable defender. Casey had some rookie moments, but Nemec didn't give him a lot of help. Certainly Casey's versatile enough to play forward, but I think that's a waste of his excellent gap control.

In his 20 mins away Nemec, Casey had a 75% xG share.

 

[My3Sons]

Nah, he's already elite at creating time and space from the blue line and is a very capable defender, especially if paired with a more stable defender. Casey had some rookie moments, but Nemec didn't give him a lot of help. Certainly Casey's versatile enough to play forward, but I think that's a waste of his excellent gap control.

In his 20 mins away Nemec, Casey had a 75% xG share.

I think Casey has wonderful talent and on a one on one basis made a number of nice defensive plays in space. He never really got leaned on to protect the net front (at least that stood out to me). Either way, he's one of those players that can probably play any position (maybe not goalie) if given the chance. He's smart and talented and that goes a long way. I presume next season Kovacevic earns a nice contract somewhere else and Casey and Nemec are vying for the third pair on the right side. The left side is complete for next season.

To bring this back to Misyul, I'd like to see Misyul given a chance to make Dillon expendable.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I think Casey has wonderful talent and on a one on one basis made a number of nice defensive plays in space. He never really got leaned on to protect the net front (at least that stood out to me). Either way, he's one of those players that can probably play any position (maybe not goalie) if given the chance. He's smart and talented and that goes a long way. I presume next season Kovacevic earns a nice contract somewhere else and Casey and Nemec are vying for the third pair on the right side. The left side is complete for next season.

Hopefully we move on from Hamilton this summer when his NMC expires

Hughes - Pesce
Siegenthaler - Casey
Misyul - Nemec

To bring this back to Misyul, I'd like to see Misyul given a chance to make Dillon expendable.

I think he's already better than Dillon, if I'm being honest. I never liked the Dillon signing.

 

[MasterofGrond]

I’ve always been impressed by his AHL play. He’ll never be a game changer but I think he has real potential as a bottom pairing-ish and PK guy, which the Devils obviously need. He makes sense to keep up as the 7D