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Confirmed with Link: Laughton 50 Retention A 4th and A 6th to the Leafs for A Conditional 2027 1st Round Pick and Nikita Grebenkin

thusk said:
Leafs was coming off a long road trip with player who didn't saw their family/ wife / child a lot. Exemple Matthews/ Marner probably be at home like 2-3 day max last 45 days. It was a pretty challenging schedule for leafs.

Just as exemple, you didn't saw your child a lot for several days, 1st day at home you probably try to have time with them and don't necessairly get a lot of rest. So maybe level of energy would be as high 1st game after long road trip... Hockey player still human at the end.
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The human factor shouldn’t be a consideration. Remember when the Red Wings traveled on a game day in a blizzard to Toronto and had all these issues getting to the hotel etc? Beat the well rested Leafs who were just comfy and cozy at home. You look to create excuses for this team and then you realize they’re just never ready. It’s too much.
 
Stephen said:
The human factor shouldn’t be a consideration. Remember when the Red Wings traveled on a game day in a blizzard to Toronto and had all these issues getting to the hotel etc? Beat the well rested Leafs who were just comfy and cozy at home. You look to create excuses for this team and then you realize they’re just never ready. It’s too much.
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I'm not looking for excuse or one specific day just saying its not easy being on the road as much time and just add an other challenge.

45 days marner /Matthews had been on road, at a moment energy come short ( and surprise matthews get a rest this morning) and i would be more concerning if they still playing that way in the last 2 meeting when they will would fresher...
 
I just came in late to the game tonight. Opened the feed and he lost the face off and then about 30 seconds later got stripped of the puck at the red line because he stopped skating

He is terrible

He will be lucky to be in the NHL in 2-3 years.
 
Fogelhund said:
It's absolute statements like this, that usually end up being proven wrong. One game does not a season make, whether you believe in this team, or not. Teams have good streaks, and bad streaks... the best teams do, and the worst teams.... I mean Florida just lost to Boston, a team who sold off many of the good players, and couldn't even beat them. Does that suggest they won't go anywhere?

Not that I believe in the Leafs that much, but in all seriousness this is sport and it's unpredictable. To get this wound up emotionally seems silly.
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I hope you are right lol
 
Stephen said:
I would probably just move him this summer and recoup some assets. Nothing personal or that complicated. Just not really what we need and not a natural fit.
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To be fair to the guy, I wouldn't expect a UFA signing over the summer to necessarily gel right away,.let alone a tdl acquisition, sometimes it takes a few weeks to build chemistry and adjust to a new city
 
Menzinger said:
To be fair to the guy, I wouldn't expect a UFA signing over the summer to necessarily gel right away,.let alone a tdl acquisition, sometimes it takes a few weeks to build chemistry and adjust to a new city
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Laughton just isn’t a good fit by design. Nothing personal but I would just move on. It’s not a wait and see issue.
 
I suggested Jankowski for a late pick before Tulsky picked him up for...a late pick. We didn't need to overpay to supplement at position. We needed smaller moves from the bottom up. And our asset ceiling capped at a 2nd and various prospects.

Makes you wonder if there's a memo above Shanahan that says X-outlay for X-type of asset for X-level of media utility has to be acted upon for trade approval. Makes you wonder why we couldn't just quietly support the group with modest assets.

I understand the Carlo payment to an extent. I don't understand Laughton's in the least and wish there was a Leafs Blueprint recording of the deliberation to justify the expense.
 
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I think it's dreadful he's been moved to the wing.

I think Ottawa's mismanaging Zetterlund, but he cost them a 2nd +, with much better numbers (incl. a plus on SAN JOSE!), an RFA, five years younger - contract troubles with Grier notwithstanding, he would have been a nice hedge against another winger walking for nothing in the summer.

And we'd still have a 1st.
 
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ITM said:
I suggested Jankowski for a late pick before Tulsky picked him up for...a late pick. We didn't need to overpay to supplement at position. We needed smaller moves from the bottom up. And our asset ceiling capped at a 2nd and various prospects.

Makes you wonder if there's a memo above Shanahan that says X-outlay for X-type of asset for X-level of media utility has to be acted upon for trade approval. Makes you wonder why we couldn't just quietly support the group with modest assets.

I understand the Carlo payment to an extent. I don't understand Laughton's in the least and wish there was a Leafs Blueprint recording of the deliberation to justify the expense.
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Every year there’s an online group think add for Toronto. A few years ago it was Brandon Hagel and this year it was Scott Laughton. Laughton was a terrible target, not what we needed and way too expensive. However they made that mistake it was a mistake and it will go down in infamy as a JFJ worthy mistake.
 
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Stephen said:
Every year there’s an online group think add for Toronto. A few years ago it was Brandon Hagel and this year it was Scott Laughton. Laughton was a terrible target, not what we needed and way too expensive. However they made that mistake it was a mistake and it will go down in infamy as a JFJ worthy mistake.
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Yet ironically if Marner waived his NTC, it could have been a great deadline.
 
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Menzinger said:
To be fair to the guy, I wouldn't expect a UFA signing over the summer to necessarily gel right away,.let alone a tdl acquisition, sometimes it takes a few weeks to build chemistry and adjust to a new city
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He's not very good @Menzinger

His advanced stats were poor before he even got here and he wasn't playing center consistently In Philly either

Honestly he needs to go because we are going to need every bit of cap space and available assets to bring in a guy that's capable of playing 3C at a competent manner and that's not Laughton
 
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Kiwi said:
He's not very good @Menzinger

His advanced stats were poor before he even got here and he wasn't playing center consistently In Philly either

Honestly he needs to go because we are going to need every bit of cap space and available assets to bring in a guy that's capable of playing 3C at a competent manner and that's not Laughton
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Laughton is just a poorly conceived JFJ era add. Combined with the team melting around around him and being a bad fit off the hip. He’s gotta go at the earliest.
 
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ruaware41 said:
If the influence of Matthews' push is what forced their hand to make this horrible trade, then the inmates are running the asylum which is never a good thing in hockey..
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Matthews has completely lost the plot as a franchise player is concerned.
 
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Stephen said:
Every year there’s an online group think add for Toronto. A few years ago it was Brandon Hagel and this year it was Scott Laughton. Laughton was a terrible target, not what we needed and way too expensive. However they made that mistake it was a mistake and it will go down in infamy as a JFJ worthy mistake.
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Hagel would have been great
 
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Stephen said:
Every year there’s an online group think add for Toronto. A few years ago it was Brandon Hagel and this year it was Scott Laughton. Laughton was a terrible target, not what we needed and way too expensive. However they made that mistake it was a mistake and it will go down in infamy as a JFJ worthy mistake.
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The question to me will be whether it’s Carlo or Laughton that cost us a lottery first?
 
I can remember one shot on goal that he's had since getting here, it was an old school looking clapper from the blueline off the rush that probably clocked in at about 75 mph
 
Leafs dont have a 3C. So they go out and pay premium assets for someone that ultimately wont play at 3C because he is not a true 3C but hey gotta look like were trying.
 
Stephen said:
The human factor shouldn’t be a consideration. Remember when the Red Wings traveled on a game day in a blizzard to Toronto and had all these issues getting to the hotel etc? Beat the well rested Leafs who were just comfy and cozy at home. You look to create excuses for this team and then you realize they’re just never ready. It’s too much.
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Remember when.
Here's a more detailed look at some of the key inventions and events of 1967:
  • Automated Teller Machine (ATM): John Shepherd-Barron devised the first ATM, which entered service in London on June 27, 1967.

  • First Successful Human Heart Transplant: South African doctor Christiaan Barnard performed the first successful human heart transplant on Louis Washkansky, though the recipient lived only 18 days.

  • Video Game Test Unit (TV Game Unit #1): Ralph Baer, an engineer at Sanders Associates Inc., created the first video game test unit, TV Game Unit #1, which allowed users to interact with a television screen.

  • Doritos: Doritos, a basic corn tortilla chip, was first sold nationally in 1967.

  • First Handheld Calculator: The first handheld calculator was also invented in 1967.

  • Talairach Coordinates: Neurosurgeons Jean Talairach and Gabor Szikla created the Talairach coordinates for brain mapping.

  • Phacoemulsification: Charles Kelman introduced phacoemulsification for cataract surgery.

  • Unified S-band (USB): Apollo 4 transmitted in the Unified S-band (USB) and tested the entire Manned Space Flight Network system.

  • IBM 1360 Photo-Digital Storage System: The IBM 1360 Photo-Digital Storage System was installed at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

  • Pizza Rolls: Pizza rolls were introduced in 1967.
These are the real reasons they haven't won. If you want to get into history of yesterday's making a difference today.

Every human is different should it matter no but does it yes.
 
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