Latendresse benched again

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Geese_Howard said:
this guy is fat and out of shape, he came to camp near 240lbs, pretty fat for a 19 year old... he needs to play around the 215-220 range to be solid, or even less.
225, actually.
 
Sutter is a poor coach and I don't have much faith in Canada being able to win this year under him. His overbearing, theory X management style is more fitting for an industrial age factory.

I watched Latendresse play in the CHL/Russia series last month and he was in a league of his own; easily the standout player for both sides.
 
baston said:
Pouliot doesn't speak a word of french and he also needs more ice time. Stop the racist paranoia.

I might be blind, but I saw Latendresse on the ice for 4 small shifts. And I saw at least 3 solid body checks. He was on the ice on Barker's goal and then, got benched. Really, Sutter should explain why he's benching him. He might have a good reason, and we'd shut our dirty mouths, but as long as I'm concerned, I can't see why he doesn't have at least a chance.

Pouliots first language is french what are you talking about. He has the most talent on this team by far, he has to start really using it.
 
Ice said:
Sutter is a poor coach and I don't have much faith in Canada being able to win this year under him. His overbearing, theory X management style is more fitting for an industrial age factory.

I watched Latendresse play in the CHL/Russia series last month and he was in a league of his own; easily the standout player for both sides.
Yeah , Sutter is a joke & has no idea how to win.
What Sutter brother is it who has been to the Memorial Cup on a few occasions, won it, & also won the WJC?
 
Sutter

Sutter is an idiot. I never liked him personally. He won the WJC last year but I PeeWee coach could have won with roster Team Canada had. His style is not working. The PP isn't great because they don't have enough skill. Can't score enough period. How would McGath from Kitchener and Wolski from Brampton look on this team?? It amazes me how you can put up points in the NHL and can't make the World junior team. ????
 
Ice said:
Sutter is a poor coach and I don't have much faith in Canada being able to win this year under him. His overbearing, theory X management style is more fitting for an industrial age factory.

I watched Latendresse play in the CHL/Russia series last month and he was in a league of his own; easily the standout player for both sides.

Latendresse has been terrible..........the player has to earn his ice time this guy has not earned it. Sutter is a great Coach to say he is terrible says allot about you.
 
Garnett said:
Sutter is an idiot. I never liked him personally. He won the WJC last year but I PeeWee coach could have won with roster Team Canada had. His style is not working. The PP isn't great because they don't have enough skill. Can't score enough period. How would McGath from Kitchener and Wolski from Brampton look on this team?? It amazes me how you can put up points in the NHL and can't make the World junior team. ????

Oh please, another stupid post. Sutter is a great Coach that lead the team to a WJC. He has also lead his WHL team to a Memorial cup. The guy knows his stuff, the Canadian team has won all its games which is not to bad.
 
Garnett said:
Sutter is an idiot. I never liked him personally. He won the WJC last year but I PeeWee coach could have won with roster Team Canada had. His style is not working. The PP isn't great because they don't have enough skill. Can't score enough period. How would McGath from Kitchener and Wolski from Brampton look on this team?? It amazes me how you can put up points in the NHL and can't make the World junior team. ????
Geez, those coaches from the OHL must be brutal if they cant outcoach Sutter in the Memorial Cup every time.
 
Garnett said:
Sutter is an idiot. I never liked him personally. He won the WJC last year but I PeeWee coach could have won with roster Team Canada had. His style is not working. The PP isn't great because they don't have enough skill. Can't score enough period. How would McGath from Kitchener and Wolski from Brampton look on this team?? It amazes me how you can put up points in the NHL and can't make the World junior team. ????


Sutter is an idiot? And if his team tied or lost to the Swiss, that would make him what?

His style is not working? This will have to be explained to me. How is it not working? If you play three games and win all three and get 6 points, is there another style of coaching that will get you more points for three wins. Maybe another coach would garner 8, 9 points for those THREE wins? Is this what you're trying to say in your inimitable fashion?
 
Garnett said:
Sutter is an idiot. I never liked him personally. He won the WJC last year but I PeeWee coach could have won with roster Team Canada had. His style is not working. The PP isn't great because they don't have enough skill. Can't score enough period. How would McGath from Kitchener and Wolski from Brampton look on this team?? It amazes me how you can put up points in the NHL and can't make the World junior team. ????

Agree on both points. He is getting too much credit for the gold last year in which any coach in canada would have won with that team.

And taking only 2 scoring lines wasnt too bright. Brassard and Wolski could really help out the PP considering the refs are calling 15 PP's per game.
 
What's hurting Latendresse is his skating and reaction time. I've been to a couple of games and this tournament is all about skating. Some of the Euro teams may be a little light in some areas of the game but they can all skate. All teams are playing a puck pressure, transition game which is not up Latendresse's alley.

Latendresse is just not keeping up with the play and he is not coming back hard. Just looks confused out there. Makes an offensive play and then rather than keeping his feet moving tends to stop and starts watching the play. In comparison a player like Downie is always on the play and moving. Latendresse has no where near the necessary work ethic or intensity.

Fact is Sutter won't put up with this. This is not the time to allow a player to play himself into the tournament. You need, from your first to your last shift, to be on your game.

Saying Sutter has benched Latendresse because he is French Canadian shows the worst kind of myopia. It's contempible stereo-typing of Sutter because he happens to be from Western Canada. It makes you wonder about the future of Canada.
 
LaLaLaprise said:
A Monkey could have coached that team to Gold.
I guess a monkey could have got the Rebels to the Memorial Cup on a few occasions & also won it.
The whining on this is over the top. Really only surpassed by last years whining that there were not more kids from the Q.
Geez, is there a common thread there?
 
I dont think Sutter is Pejorative Slured or a bad coach, but really has his toughts coming before anything else. right or wrong.

thats the problem with him. IMO
 
Crusher20 said:
I dont think Sutter is Pejorative Slured or a bad coach, but really has his toughts coming before anything else. right or wrong.

thats the problem with him. IMO
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Please re-state
 
Sammy said:
I guess a monkey could have got the Rebels to the Memorial Cup on a few occasions & also won it.
The whining on this is over the top. Really only surpassed by last years whining that there were not more kids from the Q.
Geez, is there a common thread there?

Many people in the hockey world and many canadians feel Sutter is overrated as a coach. Its nothing new.
 
LaLaLaprise said:
Many people in the hockey world and many canadians feel Sutter is overrated as a coach. Its nothing new.
Yeah ok, Mr. Insider.
How bout naming a few names.
And btw, I'm sure there are a few. It would be highly unusual if there were not any. But really, obviously those who have no agenda (as opposed to so many here) other than winning (ie hockey Canada), feel totally differently.I think that their knowledge, coupled with the fact that they have no bias, is just slightly more persuasive than many who post this subject.
 
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Sammy said:
Yeah ok, Mr. Insider.
How bout naming a few names.
And btw, I'm sure there are a few. It would be highly unusual if there were not any. But really, obviously those who have no agenda (as opposed to so many here) other than winning (ie hockey Canada), feel totally differently.I think that their knowledge, coupled with the fact that they have no bias, is just slightly more persuasive than many who post this subject.

Is there any coach that 100% of the people like?? Come on man, not everyone likes Sutter.

Just because you like him and some people dont doesnt mean you have to try and change peoples opinions of him.
 
honestly i just think that sutter doesnt see him fitting in with the team, he has no chemistry going with anyone there. He floats a lot which PISSES me off! i mean he can really hit and has amazing hands but just doesnt do anything with it. If i was sutter id start playing him on the PP and just put him in front of the net.
 
Here's a shocker, maybe Latendresse isn't as good as the pedatsol he was put on by some people?
 
RallyKiller said:
Here's a shocker, maybe Latendresse isn't as good as the pedatsol he was put on by some people?

Maybe he isnt, maybe what he did in preseason was just luck.. maybe his style isnt one that fits in this calibre, maybe he is frustrated, really who knows.. but im sure half of the players on the team right now wont be impact players. Not because you show speed and intensity that you are better. Latendresse needs confidence right now, he struggled a bit in the LHJMQ too still some people just love his assets and skills (See scouting reports). maybe at the end he will have to prove it in the NHL.
 
I do believe it is crazy he is not getting some PP time, since that is an area he would excel in. However I dont agree he hasnt been getting chances, he was on the 1st line, so he does get to get out there.
 
RallyKiller said:
Here's a shocker, maybe Latendresse isn't as good as the pedatsol he was put on by some people?

A lot of good NHL players didnt have great World Juniors. Look at the 1998 team. That team has a lot of current great NHL players and they finished 8th :(
 
I can't stand Sutter love for grinders. Not that he is a bad coach or anything, I just think that he overrates qualities like grit and defense while underrating skills like goal scoring abilities, playmaking, speed and raw skills! I can't understand how guys like Pyatt and Downie made the team in front of guys like Brassard and Wolski. With Brassard on his line Latendresse would shine, Brassard is his playmaker and Guillaume is a great finisher, he doesn't create a lot of plays by himself and Wolski made the Avs out of camp but yet, he is no good for Sutter, come on! Russians will eat us alive with that crappy offense we have!

I also can't understand why a guy like Bourret (even if he has only himself to blame) wasn't even invited to training camp! I don't see our team winning the gold except if Pogge wins it by himself. WE CAN'T SCORE GOALS!!!!
 
Sutter is a good coach, but there is no denying he has his favorites and preferences to a certain type of style. This team has way too many of the same type of players, and I am all for these types of players as they certainly have their place and importance on a team, but it looks to me like Sutter over did it this year, and could use a little more offensive punch, like say Wolski or Little. But hey, that will all be forgotten if they take gold, and if they do that, it will take some exceptional coaching.
 
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