Latendresse benched again

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MissCanuck said:
What the heck did Latendresse do to deserve being benched so much tonight? Geezus. This guy is a scorer, Canada's having trouble scoring... But yeah, he'll totally get going by riding the pine.

:p:

what's making me laugh is McGuire going on the air and says, hey there can't be any tempo if there's so many penalties ... then, Latendresse has to stay on the bench for the mistake ... without an s ... he made against finland, hey how can he get some sort of tempo by watching the guys play
 
19bruins19 said:
Pouliot should be on the PP before Latendresse.

Pouliot was given every opportunity to find his groove offensively by having a regular shift on the PP with offensive players like Cogliano, Boyd, Downie and Toews but he still hasn't managed to score a goal... and in fact, he really hasn't created much around the net. At one point you have to wonder, what is it going to take for Sutter to realize that this PP unit is not clicking? I'm thinking it's about time he does something and I'm very upset with some decisions he made tonight.

Some role players (i.e. Comeau, Pyatt, Chipchura, Downie and Boyd) will get the PK duties constantly and that's understanble since they have been doing a very solid job. The PP unit has not been productive though... wouldn't it be an idea to explore new combinaisons? A guy like Latendresse is effective when he can create some space for himself on the man-advantage in front of the net. Same for Blunden. O'Marra can score too. Actually, many guys on this team can score.

To which extent does Pouliot still deserve to be on the PP before those guys?
 
There also might be an attitude problem or work ethic with Latendresse, us fans on the sideline just dont know. Hes had every chance to earn his time, so theres a reason more than he played not so great in a game
 
chiefmonarch said:
There also might be an attitude problem or work ethic with Latendresse, us fans on the sideline just dont know. Hes had every chance to earn his time, so theres a reason more than he played not so great in a game
This isn't true. He made a couple of mistakes and was benched. He's playing horrible, I agree, but I do think that team Canada needs Latendresse's offensive aabilities to go far in this tournement. I think that Sutter has something against Latendresse and he became the Scapegoat.
 
The problem with Latendresse is that he's trying to be too fancy. He needs to run over people. With his size, he should be steamrolling the opposition and he's not doing that. He's skating around them and trying to make the fancy play. That's why Latendresse keeps getting benched.

Guys like Latendresse (and that includes Pouliot) need to follow the style of play that Michael Blunden is playing. Be physical, hit hard and go straight to the net. None of the fancy dipsy doodle crap that you're seeing from guys like Pouliot and Latendresse.

I'd even say that Latendresse should follow the lead that Steve Downie and Dustin Boyd have been setting for the rest of the team. If anything, those two and Kyle Chipchura have been our best forwards on the team.
 
Well, this team will lose and Suter will be gone next year. Good thing.

Pouliot and Latendresse BOTH need more ice time.

What a f***ing joke.
 
baston said:
Well, this team will lose and Suter will be gone next year. Good thing.

Pouliot and Latendresse BOTH need more ice time.

What a f***ing joke.

Then maybe they should start to earn their ice time! I'm so sick of the constant whining of some of the posters here. Latendresse played himself into the 13th forward position with his lazy effort in the exhibition games. But you are right he should be rewarded for it when other players are working their butts off. :shakehead
 
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Latendresse is not skating that well. Seems to to tiring easily. There are legit reasons his ice time is reduced.


Funny a few months ago it looked like Latendresse was the great prospect and Chipchura a bit of bust. Now it seems the other way around
 
baston said:
Well, this team will lose and Suter will be gone next year. Good thing.

Pouliot and Latendresse BOTH need more ice time.

What a f***ing joke.

For whatever reason Sutter loves to play his pluggers a ton of minutes (Downie, Comeau, Boyd, O'Marra, Blunden) and sit his talented players (Pouliot, Cogliano).
 
I don't think Latendresse has been that bad, given the ice time. Last night, he had some good shifts.

In terms of him not belonging here, he has been at times, the best forward in pre-tournement games and camp, so clearly he belongs. He is unique type of player though, so it seems he needs to play with certain types of players who afford him the style he is accustomed to. Understandable he isn't in the groove with limited ice time, although I would like to see him throwing the body around a bit more. I don't think it is anything to worry that much about - it's just a couple of games.
 
and by the way, Latendresse is playing his future. Sutter isn't, Latendresse deserves some ice time and it's not up to Sutter to decide if he's ready or not. If Latendresse takes 5 penalties and turns the puck over 10 times in a row then it's something else. But god damn, he's simply not that bad and needs some ice time. Latendresse will get you the gold not some Pyatt guy who doesn't know what to do on offense.
I said from the start that there is no way that Pyatt should be on this team. Ive seen him play and he is not that talented. Lots of give aways in the OHL league. Its funny how much influence Hartsburg had on Sutter by picking the forwards for team.
 
and by the way, Latendresse is playing his future. Sutter isn't, Latendresse deserves some ice time and it's not up to Sutter to decide if he's ready or not. If Latendresse takes 5 penalties and turns the puck over 10 times in a row then it's something else. But god damn, he's simply not that bad and needs some ice time. Latendresse will get you the gold not some Pyatt guy who doesn't know what to do on offense.
I said from the start that there is no way that Pyatt should be on this team. Ive seen him play and he is not that talented. Lots of give aways in the OHL league. Its funny how much influence Hartsburg had on Sutter by picking the forwards for team.
 
baston said:
Well, this team will lose and Suter will be gone next year. Good thing.

Pouliot and Latendresse BOTH need more ice time.

What a f***ing joke.

Oh please, the only reason the majority of people on here are raising a stink about Latendresse is because he's a French man. If any other forward that wasn't a French man were playing the way Latendresse has been playing, the majority would be all over them. Give it up already. Latendresse isn't playing because he stinks. I'm so tired of all the sugar coating with regards to Latendresse. He's playing like crap and he doesn't deserve the time. If he comes out against the U.S. and he's hitting hard and driving to the net, then give him boatloads of time.
 
BobbyClarkeFan16 said:
Oh please, the only reason the majority of people on here are raising a stink about Latendresse is because he's a French man. If any other forward that wasn't a French man were playing the way Latendresse has been playing, the majority would be all over them. Give it up already. Latendresse isn't playing because he stinks. I'm so tired of all the sugar coating with regards to Latendresse. He's playing like crap and he doesn't deserve the time. If he comes out against the U.S. and he's hitting hard and driving to the net, then give him boatloads of time.

You see, that's the problem...people think we Habs fans are just being defensive about Latendresse...that's not the case

Game #1 I will admit he stunk, he was totally invisble and deserved the little icetime he received...

Game #2 He didn't get alot of icetime, but had a real good 2nd and 3rd period where he really used his weight and threw it around...

Game #3 He didn't play enough for anyone to say he stunk :dunno: How can you say a player stunk when he didn't even play? How can a player get into a groove when he sees the ice for 15 secs (2nd period vs. Norway) or if he's pulled off the ice everytime their's a penalty either for his team or against? At one point last night, Canada has a PP, they're doing nothing on it for about 1:50 secs...then Norway gets a delayed penalty, Latendresse finally jumps over the boards, then a Norwegian player touches the puck, whistle blows, and it's right back to the bench for Latendresse :dunno: He litterally went on the ice for 5 secs.

It's not about defending him, but I just find it weird for a guy to start a game on the first line, and then for no reason at all, get benched :dunno:
 
417 TO MTL said:
It's not about defending him, but I just find it weird for a guy to start a game on the first line, and then for no reason at all, get benched :dunno:

So let me see, why do you think he's benched?

a)Sutter doesnt have a clue about hockey
b) Sutter hates Hab prospects
c) Sutter hates French Canadians
c) Sutter doesnt think he's playing well enough & wants to give his team the best chance to perform.

And remember, if its 2 or 3, he could have savedd himself the aggravation & just not picked him.
And amazingly enough, its mostly those with the bias who are whining here. I wonder why that is.
 
orcatown said:
Latendresse is not skating that well. Seems to to tiring easily. There are legit reasons his ice time is reduced.


Funny a few months ago it looked like Latendresse was the great prospect and Chipchura a bit of bust. Now it seems the other way around

How did Chipchura ever look like a bust? and how does 2 games all of a sudden make Latendresse a bust :dunno:

People make so much out of this tournament, alot of player haven't had the best tournament, and have gone on to have good or great careers in the NHL, and alot of player have had great WJC only to never even make the NHL...

Point is anyone who can make Team Canada at this level is pretty good and has a bright future...Maybe he is out of shape or isn't doing what he needs to do to get regular playing time, but I have alot of trouble seeing how anyone can say that after last night's game, there was no sample for which anyone to make an opinion IMO.

Like someone mentionned, Sutter has an affinity for a certain type of player, and that's evidence by the oodles of icetime guys like Downie, Boyd, Comeau are getting, and this despite undiscipline by 1 of those players...But spare me the Latendresse is now a bust talk because of 3 games, I remember last year when Andrei Kostitsyn tore it up vs. USA, alot of you here were telling Habs fans to calm down and that it was just 1 little game...

Either way, I hope Latendresse works his way into a regular shift, cause I think he could definately help Canada and become a key contributor
 
Sammy said:
So let me see, why do you think he's benched?

a)Sutter doesnt have a clue about hockey
b) Sutter hates Hab prospects
c) Sutter hates French Canadians
c) Sutter doesnt think he's playing well enough & wants to give his team the best chance to perform.

And remember, if its 2 or 3, he could have savedd himself the aggravation & just not picked him.
And amazingly enough, its mostly those with the bias who are whining here. I wonder why that is.

Whatever it is, i'm sure Sutter have his reasons (although i'm no Sutter fan, and i said that last year) but my point is, Latendresse was 4 shifts into the game last night before he got burried on the bench, the last of the 4 shifts he was on the ice when Barker scored, so I have alot of trouble trying to figure out what exactly he did wrong last night to deserve so little icetime...that's my issue, i've said it, he was below average in the 1st 2 games, but in this game he didn't receive the chance to redeem himself lilke Pouliot or Cogliano did...

And about your conspiracy theories that you think I have, they make no sense, I don't think Sutter has a thing for habs or french players so I don't know why you would even propose that, IMO, Latendresse simply isn't Sutter's type of player, and it either up to Latendresse to adjust (like I would like him to) his game to what Sutter wants
 
Kaizer said:

coming in to the tournament who were the offensive guns ?

certainly not Pyatt and some other 4th liners

these guys were Latendresse, Pouliot, Boyd and so on and they have to play

it's not Sutter's job to put the offensive production in the hands of Pyatt and company
 
417 TO MTL said:
Either way, I hope Latendresse works his way into a regular shift, cause I think he could definately help Canada and become a key contributor

Guillaume will have to play with someone who will be able to feed him the puck in the offensive zone in order to be more efficient. It hasn't happened yet as Comeau is definitely not a fit for Latendresse as we noticed so far. Comeau will use his speed and will work hard in all three zones, but he holds on to the puck alot and isn't known for his passing. Personally, I'd like seeing Gui with Cogliano and Chipchura and have Boyd, Comeau and Bolland together instead.

If you look at his season in the QJMHL, Latendresse has been doing well because Brassard is the perfect fit for him; a center who sees the ice well and can find the open man with his slick playmaking. Latendresse being an exceptional finisher (IMO at least), there's no wonder he's scoring alot in Drummondville. There aren't many players in the Brassard mold on this year's edition to the exception of Cogliano and Toews to a lesser extent...
 
417 TO MTL said:
Whatever it is, i'm sure Sutter have his reasons (although i'm no Sutter fan, and i said that last year) but my point is, Latendresse was 4 shifts into the game last night before he got burried on the bench, the last of the 4 shifts he was on the ice when Barker scored, so I have alot of trouble trying to figure out what exactly he did wrong last night to deserve so little icetime...that's my issue, i've said it, he was below average in the 1st 2 games, but in this game he didn't receive the chance to redeem himself lilke Pouliot or Cogliano did...

And about your conspiracy theories that you think I have, they make no sense, I don't think Sutter has a thing for habs or french players so I don't know why you would even propose that, IMO, Latendresse simply isn't Sutter's type of player, and it either up to Latendresse to adjust (like I would like him to) his game to what Sutter wants


Look if Latendresse isn't Sutter's type of player, Sutter wouldn't have picked him. Latendresse has strengths (his size and power) and weaknesses (his skating). However, if Latendresse doesn't make use of his strengths then his weaknesses become all the more evident. And right now his weaknesses are as plain as the sweater on his back. Latendresse deserves to sit until he starts to play to his strengths.

And I haven't heard anyone whine about Cogliano being benched. Habs fans are sometimes too much too stomach and I'm a Habs fan.
 
chiefmonarch said:
There also might be an attitude problem or work ethic with Latendresse, us fans on the sideline just dont know. Hes had every chance to earn his time, so theres a reason more than he played not so great in a game

He hasnt taken a penalty yet and he is bashing guys every shift.

Ok so his offensive game isnt where it should be, he should be rewarded for playing physical and CLEAN. Something the other players arent doing.
 
Sammy said:
So let me see, why do you think he's benched?

a)Sutter doesnt have a clue about hockey
b) Sutter hates Hab prospects
c) Sutter hates French Canadians
c) Sutter doesnt think he's playing well enough & wants to give his team the best chance to perform.

And remember, if its 2 or 3, he could have savedd himself the aggravation & just not picked him.
And amazingly enough, its mostly those with the bias who are whining here. I wonder why that is.

Sutter hates skill.

He would bench Gretzky.
 
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