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The Beach House (2020) :

Emily and Randall are a young couple. She's smart and ambitious. He's a slacker with rich parents. They end up at his family's beach house with an odd older couple. They eat well, get drunk, take drugs, and the fog rolls in. Then things get weird.

The Beach House doesn't know what it wants to be, but what it definitely is NOT is entertaining.

2/10

 
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Généalogie d'un crime (Ruiz, 1997) – First there's this strange anecdote about this Austrian child psychoanalyst who passed as authentic a young girl's diary she wrote herself in order to authenticate her own and Freud's theoretical propositions. That lady, Hermine Hugg-Hellmuth ended up murdered by her 18 years old nephew whom she had declared, after dream analysis at 5 years old, a tyrant of abnormal sexual motives and tendencies. Starting from this fait divers, Ruiz proposes three other variations of this story, starting with a Chinese ghost story, where the murdered lady comes back to avenge her death, told at the beginning of the film as foreshadowing of what's to happen, existing within the film as the bedside book of the advocate's dead son, and repeated again at the end as a reading of the weirdness we go through in this narrative of echoes and duplication. The other two variations are the stories of the film. The first one is a retelling of the Hugg-Hellmuth drama, in which a psychoanalyst observes murderous inclinations and declares her nephew a future murderer at the age of 5 – observations that he validates when murdering her once an adult. Most commentators of the film focus on the predetermination vs free will components of this narrative – and it is a valid and interesting avenue – but there's this other alternative, to me so much more Ruizian: the kid was neither predestined to become a murderer, nor did he act on free will, he was written in as a murderer, and the whole murder was a mise-en-scène. [Once arrested, the nephew blames the psychoanalytical society of which his aunt was a part for her murder - and the unfolding of the events tend to prove him right (they were responsible for the mise-en-scène – in a joyous ironic mirroring of Hugg-Hellmuth's fraudulous diary, they created the murder scene in order to authenticate their analysis of the young man as a future murderer). In real life, the nephew did come after Vienna's psychoanalytic society, saying his aunt ruined his life with her experiments and tests, but never accused them of being responsible for the murder.] The second variation of the story is of the young man's advocate. Punctuated with absurd humor and mocking of social conventions that has something of Bunuel, this story is in close relation to other Ruiz films of the time (mainly Trois vies et une seule mort, Shattered Image, and Combat d'amour en songe) for its duplication of characters, but also to other main narrative motors of his works through the recourse to tableaux vivants, games, and narrative switches (the film's main narration is of the advocate's deposition, but switches to the aunt's recount of her nephew's youth without changing actress - a narrative process mirrored in the film by the psychoanalytic games of "I'll be you and you'll be me" where characters are switching roles). The whole film is presented as a psychological thriller, but is never serious at that. Indebted in many ways to some of Ruiz's best films, and even though more accessible than most, Généalogie d'un crime is first and foremost a subtle descendant of his (neo)baroque cinema. With rich visuals and camerawork, and this intricate narrative, it's a feast to the eye and the brain (the absurd comedic elements - often from the darker sides of humor - are only added bonus). A rival psychoanalyst, responsible for the narrative syndrome or shared novel theory, explains that the stories we tell are like illnesses and that they act on us, he believes that the aunt is the author of her own murder and that it was therefore suicide. He also believes that characters are reincarnated and proposes that he might be the reincarnation of one of the Karamazov brothers, an obvious nod to fellow hispanic director Manoel de Oliveira's The Divine Comedy, but also another indication of being part of a story – the genealogy of which he is still working on. 9/10


(Very nice cast, with a brilliant Piccoli and in which even Melvil Poupaud feels right (he is a weak link in quite a few other Ruiz films), and, as always, great dialogues by Pascal Bonitzer. I enjoyed this film even more than I did 20 years ago)
 
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Rochelle, Rochelle (1997) :

Rochelle is a beautiful young woman from Northern Italy. Bored in her small town of Milan, she decides to travel to Minsk in Belarus.

During the early part of her strange erotic journey, she meets a young man and they have an affair. Her first. She finds out he's married and runs away.

Later, she find herself in a storm. Soaking wet, she enters the house of an older man who tells her to "Come by the fire and take off those wet clothes. You’ll catch your death of cold”. She replies, "My hands are so cold, I can barely get these buttons open". He helps her remove her garments and they make love - he shows her a passion she has never known.

As naughty as this "film" sounds, there isn't much nudity - it's mostly "sidal" nudity.

Still, Rochelle, Rochelle is the sexiest movie I've seen since The Unbearable Lightness Of Being and it's worthy of its 8 Academy Award nominations - 23 years later, I still can't believe it didn't win Best Picture.

7.5/10

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Rochelle, Rochelle (1997) :

Rochelle is a beautiful young woman from Northern Italy. Bored in her small town of Milan, she decides to travel to Minsk in Belarus.

During the early part of her strange erotic journey, she meets a young man and they have an affair. Her first. She finds out he's married and runs away.

Later, she find herself in a storm. Soaking wet, she enters the house of an older man who tells her to "Come by the fire and take off those wet clothes. You’ll catch your death of cold”. She replies, "My hands are so cold, I can barely get these buttons open". He helps her remove her garments and they make love - he shows her a passion she has never known.

As naughty as this "film" sounds, there isn't much nudity - it's mostly "sidal" nudity.

Still, Rochelle, Rochelle is the sexiest movie I've seen since The Unbearable Lightness Of Being and it's worthy of its 8 Academy Award nominations - 22 years later, I still can't believe it didn't win Best Picture.

7.5/10

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Généalogie d'un crime (Ruiz, 1997) – First there's this strange anecdote about this Austrian child psychoanalyst who passed as authentic a young girl's diary she wrote herself in order to authenticate her own and Freud's theoretical propositions. That lady, Hermine Hugg-Hellmuth ended up murdered by her 18 years old nephew whom she had declared, after dream analysis at 5 years old, a tyrant of abnormal sexual motives and tendencies. Starting from this fait divers, Ruiz proposes three other variations of this story, starting with a Chinese ghost story, where the murdered lady comes back to avenge her death, told at the beginning of the film as foreshadowing of what's to happen, existing within the film as the bedside book of the advocate's dead son, and repeated again at the end as a reading of the weirdness we go through in this narrative of echoes and duplication. The other two variations are the stories of the film. The first one is a retelling of the Hugg-Hellmuth drama, in which a psychoanalyst observes murderous inclinations and declares her nephew a future murderer at the age of 5 – observations that he validates when murdering her once an adult. Most commentators of the film focus on the predetermination vs free will components of this narrative – and it is a valid and interesting avenue – but there's this other alternative, to me so much more Ruizian: the kid was neither predestined to become a murderer, nor did he act on free will, he was written in as a murderer, and the whole murder was a mise-en-scène. [Once arrested, the nephew blames the psychoanalytical society of which his aunt was a part for her murder - and the unfolding of the events tend to prove him right (they were responsible for the mise-en-scène – in a joyous ironic mirroring of Hugg-Hellmuth's fraudulous diary, they created the murder scene in order to authenticate their analysis of the young man as a future murderer). In real life, the nephew did come after Vienna's psychoanalytic society, saying his aunt ruined his life with her experiments and tests, but never accused them of being responsible for the murder.] The second variation of the story is of the young man's advocate. Punctuated with absurd humor and mocking of social conventions that has something of Bunuel, this story is in close relation to other Ruiz films of the time (mainly Trois vies et une seule mort, Shattered Image, and Combat d'amour en songe) for its duplication of characters, but also to other main narrative motors of his works through the recourse to tableaux vivants, games, and narrative switches (the film's main narration is of the advocate's deposition, but switches to the aunt's recount of her nephew's youth without changing actress - a narrative process mirrored in the film by the psychoanalytic games of "I'll be you and you'll be me" where characters are switching roles). The whole film is presented as a psychological thriller, but is never serious at that. Indebted in many ways to some of Ruiz's best films, and even though more accessible than most, Généalogie d'un crime is first and foremost a subtle descendant of his (neo)baroque cinema. With rich visuals and camerawork, and this intricate narrative, it's a feast to the eye and the brain (the absurd comedic elements - often from the darker sides of humor - are only added bonus). A rival psychoanalyst, responsible for the narrative syndrome or shared novel theory, explains that the stories we tell are like illnesses and that they act on us, he believes that the aunt is the author of her own murder and that it was therefore suicide. He also believes that characters are reincarnated and proposes that he might be the reincarnation of one of the Karamazov brothers, an obvious nod to fellow hispanic director Manoel de Oliveira's The Divine Comedy, but also another indication of being part of a story – the genealogy of which he is still working on. 9/10


(Very nice cast, with a brilliant Piccoli and in which even Melvil Poupaud feels right (he is a weak link in quite a few other Ruiz films), and, as always, great dialogues by Pascal Bonitzer. I enjoyed this film even more than I did 20 years ago)
My turn to say: Thx, that went right over my head.
 
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Junun
(2015) Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson (documentary) 8B

Junun
represents a collaboration between Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood, Israeli musician Shye Ben Tzur, and the Rajasthan Express, a diverse collection of Indian musicians. The tradition here is totally different than the sitar-based Indian music that most of us are at least somewhat familiar with thanks to Ravi Shankar and George Harrison. The Junun music relies more heavily on horns, on string instruments that look like they come from Mars, and on North Indian ragas. Greenwood, ever the ensemble player, is quite unobtrusive, adding the odd bass line or rhythm accompaniment to the sometimes rough edged jams that are taking place. The music is highly rhythmic, with flashes of beautiful melody, and in its own distinctive way, groove based. Paul Thomas Anderson's direction is unobtrusive, as well. He provides little to no explanation of what is going on and lets the images and the music do the talking. The music is recorded in some of the rooms of the Mehrangarh Fort near Jodhpur, India. A more picturesque location would be hard to imagine, and the locale and surroundings do seem to add to the lovely ambiance of the music. All in all Junun documents one of the more successful and respectful international musical collaborations. There is some great music being made here and it is accessible to anyone who can tap a foot.

mix of English and subtitles

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Langdon Alger

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It's not real. :)

Neither is Prognosis Negative, which I reviewed a few pages back. Now, Sack Lunch, there’s a real movie. Ok, no it’s not.

on Seinfeld they made up most of the movies. The only one that was real that I can remember them going to see was The English Patient, which Elaine hated.
 

Langdon Alger

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LOL!

I didn't notice your review. Did anyone catch your joke?

I decided to review R/R when I saw George claim it had mostly "sidal" nudity in a recent episode on TV. "Sidal" nudity made me laugh. :)

No, nobody commented on it. I was dissapointed.

Maybe one of us should review Firestorm next. As Susan’s father said “Firestorm, that’s a hell of a picture.”
 
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The King of Staten Island
2.20 out of 4stars

Where to begin. Stay away if you don't like Apatow or Davidson's work. It just doesn't quite work. It's overlong, it's tonally a mess, it has no flow, Davidson can't act and it's evident repeatedly (real life bio events aside), half the jokes or more don't land, and as usual, the female charcters are way underdevelopped. It's not a complete waste, there are some good messages brought up here and there on the subject matter and Davidson is somewhat likeable, even with his poor acting chops, but it's just a complete mess. I like, not love some of Apatow's films, and with the rottentomatoe scores in the 70s and 80s I thought this had potential, but it's really rough to sit through, even moreso do to it's runtime. Pass on watching it if u are thinking about. If it's free one day to watch and ur curious, be my guest but it's 2hrs+ you aren't getting back. Thankfully I saw it for free (friend paid).
 
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The Vast of The Night (2020) - 6.5/10

First 10-20 minutes are a pain but it settles into a somewhat decent film once it gets the creepy sci-fi down. Just a short pass the time kinda watch made respectably on a budget.
 
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The Vast of The Night (2020) - 6.5/10

First 10-20 minutes are a pain but it settles into a somewhat decent film once it gets the creepy sci-fi down. Just a short pass the time kinda watch made respectably on a budget.
Honestly I'm not really sure what to make of this one. It was very well done (especially considering the budget), but it felt a bit pretentious and show-offy as well. I appreciated the restraint of what they show and don't show though, and I also quite liked the score. It just didn't completely click with me though, but I still enjoyed it.
 

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Honestly I'm not really sure what to make of this one. It was very well done (especially considering the budget), but it felt a bit pretentious and show-offy as well. I appreciated the restraint of what they show and don't show though, and I also quite liked the score. It just didn't completely click with me though, but I still enjoyed it.

I liked it quite a bit but also agree it veers into pretentiousness. Still, I think there's promise of a good filmmaker there ...
 

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it felt a bit pretentious


I liked it quite a bit but also agree it veers into pretentiousness.

Please explain how a film is pretentious. And I'm asking very seriously and honestly. I see it all the time, but I never really understood. Jean-Luc Godard, pretentious? (maybe, don't know - there's a few of his fellow filmmakers who have nasty things to say about him for sure). But his films? How can his films be pretentious? A film is an object, without intention of its own. A filmmaker could be the most pretentious hack ever, his film would still just be hit or miss. No?

I used Godard only because he is the most popular target of this type of comments.

La mécanique des femmes is a film that felt to me like it was aiming at a level of artistry and relevance that it could never reach. Maybe it was pretentious to try. But then again, I could say the same about Replica, another film that doesn't come close to what it sets itself for.

Oh.... I have an example of filmic pretentiousness.... I can't remember from which film it was, for some reason I think it's something by Arrabal (but I might be wrong!!), but there was in the credits something like: All quotes by Nietzsche, Freud, and Arrabal (again, maybe it wasn't him at all - and it certainly wasn't Nietzsche and Freud, but other thinkers of that level of reputation, plus the director's name, 3rd person) - I remember that made me lol.
 

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Please explain how a film is pretentious. And I'm asking very seriously and honestly. I see it all the time, but I never really understood. Jean-Luc Godard, pretentious? (maybe, don't know - there's a few of his fellow filmmakers who have nasty things to say about him for sure). But his films? How can his films be pretentious? A film is an object, without intention of its own. A filmmaker could be the most pretentious hack ever, his film would still just be hit or miss. No?

I used Godard only because he is the most popular target of this type of comments.

La mécanique des femmes is a film that felt to me like it was aiming at a level of artistry and relevance that it could never reach. Maybe it was pretentious to try. But then again, I could say the same about Replica, another film that doesn't come close to what it sets itself for.

Oh.... I have an example of filmic pretentiousness.... I can't remember from which film it was, for some reason I think it's something by Arrabal (but I might be wrong!!), but there was in the credits something like: All quotes by Nietzsche, Freud, and Arrabal (again, maybe it wasn't him at all - and it certainly wasn't Nietzsche and Freud, but other thinkers of that level of reputation, plus the director's name, 3rd person) - I remember that made me lol.
In a technical sense for me. Start felt like long takes just for the sake of having long takes and then that one shot where it goes from the switchboard room back to the school felt jarring. I don't really think of it as a negative thing really though, showing off in a technical sense is better than being bland, I just think it was a bit much, like it took me out of it a bit and made me more aware I was watching a movie.
 

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In a technical sense for me. Start felt like long takes just for the sake of having long takes and then that one shot where it goes from the switchboard room back to the school felt jarring. I don't really think of it as a negative thing really though, showing off in a technical sense is better than being bland, I just think it was a bit much, like it took me out of it a bit and made me more aware I was watching a movie.

Haven't seen it, but Too Old to Die Young's rythm often seemed a little forced. But wanting to make a very slow film (or series) and not mastering that rythm perfectly isn't (to me) anymore pretentious than wanting to make an action film with spectacular stunts and coming up with Commando.
 

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