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Who gets fired if the Leafs lose in the first round again

  • Both Dubas and Keefe

    Votes: 34 13.8%

  • Just Dubas

    Votes: 18 7.3%

  • Just Keefe

    Votes: 13 5.3%

  • Shanahan

    Votes: 2 0.8%

  • No one

    Votes: 70 28.3%

  • No one gets fired but major trades happen

    Votes: 59 23.9%

  • The entire organization gets cleaned out

    Votes: 13 5.3%

  • Depends how they perform

    Votes: 38 15.4%
  • Total voters
    247
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sxvnert said:
Toronto media will defend him no matter what happens in the playoffs. Dubas has a job for life unless Matthews decides to leave after his term is done.
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Not sure there's been a GM the Toronto has shat on more his first few years than they've shat on Dubas.

They've been trying to fire him since year 2.
 
91LeafsTavares91 said:
Zeke doesn't believe most things he posts. He simply tries to get a rise out of people, and is often successful. This is the same poster who years ago died on the hill saying Reimer was a legitimate starting option, and then continually made a scapegoat of Freddie Andersen, who was a much better goaltender.

Anyway, to the topic at hand I doubt either Keefe/Dubas is fired this summer, regardless of what happens in the first round. Setting franchise records in points and wins will buy them another season at least.
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Career

Reimer: 432gms, .913 (plyff: 11gms, .925)
Freddy: 445gms, .916 (plyff: 53gms, .916)
 
Leaf Fans said:
An equal % would be disappointed if the Leafs won a round and would be dismayed if they actually won a Cup.
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LMFAO not a chance.

As a matter of fact, I think those “Fans” will be the ones celebrating a playoff round win the most out of the entire fan base.
 
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mikeyz said:
LMFAO not a chance.

As a matter of fact, I think those “Fans” will be the ones celebrating a playoff round win the most out of the entire fan base.
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The ones that will be disappointed if the Leafs win the Cup? Highly doubtful.
 
zeke said:
You're right - Fred has had the luxury of playing behind better teams.
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That can't be right. You've posted here ad nauseum that the Leafs were terrible defensively under Babcock for which Freddy was the starter for over 3 seasons, or about half his career in terms of GP.
 
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91LeafsTavares91 said:
That can't be right. You've posted here ad nauseum that the Leafs were terrible defensively under Babcock for which Freddy was the starter for over 3 seasons, or about half his career in terms of GP.
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Better than Reimer's leafs.
 
Menzinger said:
Ii don't disagree that the team has some complex manuvering to do, but I'd disagree that there is an outright NEED or even desirability to move a bigger contract like Nylanders.

Again, I think you may be a bit optimistic on what Mik will cost, there's always another team needing some skill in their top six that eill likely be able to offer a bigger contract - just as what happened with Hyman. Ie why sign with the Leafs for 4.75x4 when you could get 5.5x5 somewhere else ect.

There's always contracts that can be moved. Kerfoot, Muzzin (I'd disagree it's going to cost the team to trade him), even Mzarek gives Dubas 11+ mil to play around with if he so chooses. If Milk goes to another team as I think he dos, that free agency spending amount grows even more.

The cap also isn't going to stay static. It's expected to start to rise more notably as Matthews/Nylanders contracts come to an end in 2024 too.
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I really think they keep the Mrazek contract, and set him up with a nice piece of property on the lovely shore of Robidas Isle. The 3.8 m LTIR hold back will help the cap situation. They have some signings they have to make, maybe another top 6 winger that suits JT, the team will also have to retool the 4th line, a bigger guy who moves well and PK's. The D may need some attention as Gio's a UFA and could get offers the Bud's may not be willing to match. Same goes for Mikheyev, to find another big fast guy who can give you 25 will run into the 5's for first time guy in that club.

And then there's the net.
 
therealkoho said:
I really think they keep the Mrazek contract, and set him up with a nice piece of property on the lovely shore of Robidas Isle. The 3.8 m LTIR hold back will help the cap situation. They have some signings they have to make, maybe another top 6 winger that suits JT, the team will also have to retool the 4th line, a bigger guy who moves well and PK's. The D may need some attention as Gio's a UFA and could get offers the Bud's may not be willing to match. Same goes for Mikheyev, to find another big fast guy who can give you 25
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He’s due back in a few weeks and might still be a factor in the post season. I wouldn’t write him off to Robidas island quite yet over one poor season.
I think it’s 50/50 he either is moved in a soft deal or they run it back with soup & Petr and try and rehab some value if nothing else shakes out in the off-season
 
Nylanderthal said:
He’s due back in a few weeks and might still be a factor in the post season. I wouldn’t write him off to Robidas island quite yet over one poor season.
I think it’s 50/50 he either is moved in a soft deal or they run it back with soup & Petr and try and rehab some value if nothing else shakes out in the off-season
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Tbh I think you'd have to cross a lot of fingers for that. If Jack has a good series 1 and gets the Leafs to the second round,

even if ready, Mrazek wouldn't see the net unless the Leafs needed him because of injury, or really poor play by the starter, at best they might possibly dress him as a B/U,

but that would be hard to do because Jack has hit a comfort level that allows him to play at an elite level, why change anything and risk the disruption he might feel.

Kallgren and he seem very cool calm and collected with each other, Kallgren is still a question mark that time will only tell what his real level is at,

is he a Felix the Cat or a Raycroft, hoping for Felix of course.
 
I don't think they change a thing to be honest. I also think they lose in 5 or 6 sadly.
 
zeke said:
Age at 1st Cup

Kucherov 26
Hedman 29
Stamkos 29
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Playoff record:
202136-17-3Won Final
202043-21-6Won Final
201962-16-4Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)
201854-23-5Lost Conference Finals (Won 2 Rounds)
201742-30-10Missed Playoffs
201646-31-5Lost Conference Finals (Won 2 Rounds)
201550-24-8Lost Stanley Cup Final (Won 3 Rounds)

Leafs:
YearRecordResult
202135-14-7Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)
202036-25-9Missed Playoffs
201946-28-8Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)
201849-26-7Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)
201740-27-15Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)
201629-42-11Missed Playoffs
201530-44-8Missed Playoffs
 
Don’t think Shanahan lets go of either Dubas or Keefe and rightfully so. Only way management changes is if MLSE board cleans house.
 
Tuttle said:
Playoff record:
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]2021[/TD]
[TD]36-17-3[/TD]
[TD]Won Final[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2020[/TD]
[TD]43-21-6[/TD]
[TD]Won Final[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2019[/TD]
[TD]62-16-4[/TD]
[TD]Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2018[/TD]
[TD]54-23-5[/TD]
[TD]Lost Conference Finals (Won 2 Rounds)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2017[/TD]
[TD]42-30-10[/TD]
[TD]Missed Playoffs[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2016[/TD]
[TD]46-31-5[/TD]
[TD]Lost Conference Finals (Won 2 Rounds)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2015[/TD]
[TD]50-24-8[/TD]
[TD]Lost Stanley Cup Final (Won 3 Rounds)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Leafs:
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Year[/TH]
[TH]Record[/TH]
[TH]Result[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2021[/TD]
[TD]35-14-7[/TD]
[TD]Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2020[/TD]
[TD]36-25-9[/TD]
[TD]Missed Playoffs[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2019[/TD]
[TD]46-28-8[/TD]
[TD]Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2018[/TD]
[TD]49-26-7[/TD]
[TD]Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2017[/TD]
[TD]40-27-15[/TD]
[TD]Lost First Round (Won 0 Rounds)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2016[/TD]
[TD]29-42-11[/TD]
[TD]Missed Playoffs[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2015[/TD]
[TD]30-44-8[/TD]
[TD]Missed Playoffs[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Record is virtually identical
 
Cor said:
Don’t think Shanahan lets go of either Dubas or Keefe and rightfully so. Only way management changes is if MLSE board cleans house.
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Wouldn't Keefe be Dubas' call ?
 
I was walking my dog last night and looked 1 foot to my right and there sat Sheldon keefe watching flag football on a park bench. As one of the few people to have watched all 81 games (Excluding fellow HFBOARD fans) and a massive fan what do I do?

Congratulate him on the great season, ask if Kase will be back for the playoffs, see if he will tell me which D will sit game one of the playoffs???

No, I just smiled and carried on...DARN!!!
 
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